Comments on: friday free for all!

By: Patiently Waiting

Patiently Waiting — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:46:00 +0000

I totally agree that we are failing the more severely mentally ill. Now, as all the money is being thrown around for 2010, should be when we can make some kind of progress. We are not. That is tragic.

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By: Akhen

Akhen — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:43:00 +0000

I agree, there are those that are capable of integration and there are those that can't. But, we are not speaking of those that are capable of integration. In any case, those that are capable of integration requires much supporting infrastructure that are simply nonexistent. The development plan calls for social housing and not of supporting infrastructure. The government do not want the responsibility to cover the costs any longer and is perfectly happy to shift them out of the limelight.The key here is supporting infrastructure and policies that clearly speaks to how to apply medical resources when the mentally ill refuses medication, etc. As far as I know, Coquitlam does not want to be the new dumping ground for BC. I don't see them waiting in line to replace Vancouver. In fact, if you read the Tri-City community newspaper, the government released their "talking points" without so much as a warning to the city. When we started discussion on this blog on Friday, most of Coquitlam residents weren't even aware of the proposal. It came out on the Sunday edition of the Tri-City news.

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By: Akhen

Akhen — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:32:00 +0000

patiently waiting ... i'm sorry, but you've really got to read within the context of the entire discussion point. If you are referring to those that are on skid row, then, YEA, that's who I am speaking about. If you're speaking of people with mild mental illness living next door with full capability to medicate themselves and living independently, then, NO, I'm not speaking about them.I don't think I need to legally and medically define who exactly I am speaking of. We are all sensible adult's capable of understanding the discussion point within context. Medically speaking, many mentally ill patients on skid row simply choose not to take their medication leading to deterioration of their conditions to the point where they simply are not capable to even fill out a form. Now ask those mentally ill people to fill out the 23page form needed to apply for benefits under MEIA. This may be oversimplifying things, but it reflects the overall state of affairs. Compound all this with a careless government bureaucracy who worries more about the media attention than genuine care and you've got a time bomb in the making.

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By: Patiently Waiting

Patiently Waiting — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:40:00 +0000

ahken, when you say "the mentally ill" it sounds like you are talking about everyone who has a mental illness. That's a lot of people, including many who live fairly "normal" lives and never need to be institutionalized (or only for a limited time). As mk-kids mentioned there are some mentally ill people who could thrive with the proper supports, but they haven't been sufficiently provided.Of course, there are some with mental illnesses who may never function well in society (thus have to be institutionalized) but I would argue they are a minority.I have family members with mentally illnesses and I have volunteered teaching computer skills to the mentally ill. I have seen with my own eyes that the mentally ill can integrate into society and hold down a job. Even in Vancouver.

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By: blueskies

blueskies — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 06:13:00 +0000

article: http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2007/07/30/housingprices.htmlhttp://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2007/07/30/housingp… />quote from same: "British Columbia continued to have the highest average house price at $446,893 in June, though that was down from $454,962 in May. "

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By: tulip-Mania2

tulip-Mania2 — Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:18:00 +0000

The US Bubble documented, and explained in detail:We know that the usual suspects will sayIt's different in Canada-this time

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By: tulip-Mania2

tulip-Mania2 — Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:46:00 +0000

The scientists at Philip Morris would have warned the people that smoking causes cancer if they had only known.The RE experts would have warned us by now if there was a bubble. They just arenâ€™t sure, given such little information and history available.

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By: freako

freako — Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:52:00 +0000

Here is a quote from Ben Jones blog, about a realtor who bought a condo with two friends at the peak of the bubble:â€œOh said his living costs quadrupled when he bought his share of the condo unit, but it was worth it to live where he wanted to live and work toward some equity.â€Justifying quadruple living costs by building equity? Buddy, you are losing equity.

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By: Akhen

Akhen — Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:38:00 +0000

cbb ... I totally agree.As they say, "Rising tide lifts all boats".

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By: CBB

CBB — Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:33:00 +0000

Every system makes money in a bull market. The real test is when things get choppy or head downhill.

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