The worlds 6th most overpriced market!
Don’t let anyone tell you Vancouver isn’t special - According to this article in Forbes we’ve got the 6th most overpriced real estate in the world!
The rankings were compiled by calculating an effective annualized rate of return on a property based on annual cash flows derived from renting and adjusted for capital gains tax, transaction fees, operating costs and maintenance, appreciation and inflation. We then flipped the return rate to resemble the more familiar price-to-earnings (P/E) measure.
…Representing North America in the world’s top 10 were Los Angeles (5th place at 26.88) and Vancouver (6th at 26.81).
Thats a .07 difference between us and LA, almost seems like a currency fluctation could switch up those places and give us the coveted title of MOST OVERPRICED real estate in North America!
And tell us Forbes, why does the relationship between rental yields and housing costs matter?
The relationship between rental yields and housing costs matters because a low rental yield is a good indication of a stretched market–one that has a bubble–since these markets are more likely to face downward price pressures or grow at a slower rate.RSS 2.0 comments feed. Both comments and pings are currently closed.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:41 am
August 27th, 2007 at 7:54 am
August 27th, 2007 at 8:12 am
I have a feeling rents would rise a little faster without that restriction in BC. Although its apparent that averages joes here couldn’t afford too much more for shelter.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:24 am
Another flaw is that cost of managing a rental is different in different areas, which means the net rental yield also differs in different cities.
August 27th, 2007 at 2:36 pm
wouldn’t those arguments apply to say LA as well?
August 27th, 2007 at 6:37 pm
I recently adopted a child and I gotta tell you the ROI is not htere. do you think I over paid? I also bought a lovely home in Pt Grey and it is not cash flow positive either. Gasp!!
August 27th, 2007 at 6:57 pm
Are you trying to tell us that a house is a member of the family and not a capital investment, and thus not to be evaluated using financial metrics? If you’re not a Realtor, you ought to be one.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:27 pm
If you’re trying to make a point, you failed.
August 28th, 2007 at 7:23 am
Well, what is the study based on? Any study worth its salt would look at apples the apples - rent versus price of specific building. Using aggregates, median rents divided by median prices for example, can yield very wonky results. Reading the first paragraphs it looks like it is apples to apples, though I don’t quite understand what “adjusted for appreciation and inflation” entails.
Another flaw is that cost of managing a rental is different in different areas, which means the net rental yield also differs in different cities.
If you read the first paragraph, they seem to have taken than into account. “The rankings were compiled by calculating an effective annualized rate of return on a property based on annual cash flows derived from renting and adjusted for capital gains tax, transaction fees, operating costs and maintenance, appreciation and inflation.”
Sounds complicated to do though.
August 28th, 2007 at 7:27 am
We are very aware that you bought, because ever since you’ve been a whiny b*tch.
August 28th, 2007 at 7:34 am
August 28th, 2007 at 8:01 am
August 28th, 2007 at 8:18 am
Ha!
looks like little jimmy thin skin will soon be running out of blogs to whine on……….
August 28th, 2007 at 8:29 am
“We are very aware that you bought, because ever since you’ve been a whiny b*tch.”
Youser!-shouldn’t a sold in “03, hey Freako?
August 28th, 2007 at 8:36 am
LOL, yah, that’s it.
August 28th, 2007 at 8:51 am
when some one got positive review of the market and our city since 11 year you call them realtor, x realtor,and tax scamers.
we are not here to benefit the market,but yeah to follow the right direction, so we should not become fool based on false information,and I will countinue to cheeeeeer up as we are living in the city that make us cheer leaders not us alone but this whole modern world.
August 28th, 2007 at 8:55 am
August 28th, 2007 at 9:03 am
PS I never called you a tax “scamer” either but I bet you are one of those as well.
August 28th, 2007 at 9:04 am
August 28th, 2007 at 9:51 am
I don’t think the bears have any reason to get angry here because we are not the ones risking obscene amounts of money on a game that’s rigged against us.
If there is one immutable law of successful commerce it is this.
“Buy low, sell high.”
That is how to make money PERIOD. Fools who buy high don’t deserve vitriol they deserve, at best, pity.
August 28th, 2007 at 11:35 am
1) Inflation eating my savings
2) Bail-out of FBs
3) Worldwide economic depression
What I’m not afraid of is my housing situation. I found a decent place with acceptable rent. That’s a lot better than risking my future on this insane real estate market. I’m positioned so that even if we have that worldwide economic depression, I’ll do relatively well.
August 28th, 2007 at 12:07 pm
August 28th, 2007 at 2:31 pm
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August 28th, 2007 at 2:32 pm
August 28th, 2007 at 2:37 pm
August 28th, 2007 at 3:29 pm
Closer to home, BC tops in RE prices, but income gains, not so much, despite record unemployment. BC’s average income = $39,500 annually. Income growth gains are LOWEST IN ALL CANADIAN PROVINCES.
August 28th, 2007 at 3:53 pm
Hope it was an older home friend of mine who does a lot of bank appraisals mentioned Point Grey, said he couldn’t believe the junk being built. Had to appraise high for the bank though; orders from headquarters!
August 28th, 2007 at 10:04 pm
what they have in their city is west edmonton mall,where pirates of the caribbean ship is parked in side the mall otherwise this city has a dull future.
Calgary:a small peace of downtown that can be crossed in less then 3 min.of drive otherwise this city is split in highway rather than blocks.
after six p.m right turn become so scary because snow piled up on corners melt down on right turns lots of accidents from slipery surface can be seen often.
more over the top this city is not! not! not!,strictly not for the pedstrians,and for the bike riders.people must have 4*4 pick up trucks even cars doesn’t work there properly.
I beleive rich albertans are coming to Vancouver,and poor are moving to saskatoon.poor from vancouver are moving to alberta to get trap in snow ice melt down.
August 28th, 2007 at 10:37 pm
To do what exactly?
Why does anyone live in Alberta at all? Because that’s where the jobs are.
Edmonton joins the endless list of cities to see an RE downturn without a general economic downturn (yet). Why? It’s the fundamentals, stupid.
August 29th, 2007 at 8:35 am
2c fireworks……
Why does anyone live in Alberta at all?
2 sleep nicely after 6pm.
Because that’s where the jobs are.
thats why poor people move there to get rich quickly.
A CUP OF COFFEE:that cost the company $1500.00 is yours for $1.17.
profits those companies make in any other city are being dumped like garbage in alberta.
August 29th, 2007 at 12:05 pm
Thanks Drachen for your sensible words of calm.
I’m not sure why some of you are so testy with Jim, I think he’s made it clear that he understands the likelyhood of a correction and has decided to buy regardless. Why does that offend so much?
Of course if the market drops and he starts complaining then the gloves are off.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:43 pm
Because at the exact same time he started coming up with shifty arguments why housing won’t go down. When called on them he threw insults. Am I big enough to let that slide? Clearly not. A troll couldn’t have written a snarkier reply to this relevant post than Jim.
August 29th, 2007 at 2:54 pm
I truly abhor spin and intentionally deceptive arguments.
Remember the joker on RETalks who argued like crazy for rising prices, and then suddenly posted that he had sold his last property and expected prices to come down. That is truly whacked.