We’re number 1! (in property crime)

Lock up your condo and hide your car! Just in case this dark wet winter climate isn’t dismal enough, Vancouver is now the property crime capital of North America. According to a recent report break-ins happen here at a per-capita rate FOUR TIMES that of New York City.

Last year, Vancouver recorded more than 1,100 break-ins per 100,000 residents while New York City had just over 300.

The numbers are contained in the annual report by the B.C. Progress Board, which showed Vancouver had the second-highest combined violent and property crime rate among all major cities in Canada and the United States.

Its not all bad news though, we are a very healthy province:

Fewer British Columbians are obese and fewer adults smoke than in any other Canadian province. And B.C. leads the country in life expectancy.

But it’s in the area known as ‘social condition,’ which measures everything from poverty to birth weights, that B.C. falls down with a ninth-place ranking among the 10 provinces.

According to the report, the most troubling social indicator was the 17.5 percent of British Columbians living below the low-income threshold, the second-worst ranking in Canada.

The report also notes the situation has not improved at all during the past decade.

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wg2c

All kidding aside I have seen Vancouver go from a backwater which was as close to paradise as one can find in N America to one of the worst places.m-r, i don't know about or understand your other posts (on gold &c), but you're an absolutely clear thinker on Vancouver.every time the city has had an event like Expo86, where big business with land investments have duped the populace into believing it was a good thing to "show the world what a wonderful place we live in", it has had a deleterious effect on the quality of life in Vancouver.It's irrecoverable, irreversible, unstoppable … it's past the point of no return.and the joke is, house prices are inversely proportional to the quality of life!oh if Lenny Bruce were still alive, he could do a nice show on living in Vancouver!… Read more »

Michael Randallbard

"if Vancouver dealt with the homeless and drug addicted, mentally challenged population." Who keeps letting these Americans in here anyhow?All kidding aside I have seen Vancouver go from a backwater which was as close to paradise as one can find in N America to one of the worst places. The traffic has made this city unlivable as has the crime and drugs. Even Estonia (actually quite a nice place) has zero tolerance for drugs. Isn't it obvious by now that our politicians are on the take from drug gangs? We can get the RCMP to waste time trying to catch speeders in gridlock and go taser innocent people but we can't get them to taser drug pushers and grow op owners and leave the juice on?This city is really disgusting. Merry Christmas shoppers.

vanhattan

Looks like the codependence of Vancouverites toward crack and other addicts has finally caught up with the reportable statistics, which in my opinion are WAY Undereported. The first month I lived here my car windows were smashed out while parked in my "secured" condo parking garage. Now I never lock the car and leave my windows ajar. Condo prices and appreciation would increase substantially if Vancouver dealt with the homeless and drug addicted, mentally challenged population.

depresso

I guess you've never been to Edmonton this time of year.No. Please, describe the beauty of Edmonton in winter. Be very graphic.

Warren

I guess you've never been to Edmonton this time of year.

depresso

I'll take 6 degrees and rain thanks.Will you take it for 6 dark months in a row? 😉

Warren

Rain is an easy target, but its -10 in Alberta cities today (lows of -20 at night), and -6 to -10 in Ontario with snow.I'll take 6 degrees and rain thanks.

depresso

Another cold, dark, wet and windy day in Vancouver. This must be the best place on Earth…

patriotz

Why do people line up for three days to buy something (Millenium-Woodwards) but when there is available condo's of equal quality, no one buys?I think it's sort of like why the girls are more interested in you when you already have a girlfriend than when you don't. People go after what appears to be popular.

Strataman

warren "Any price drops? Can you tell if these are private sales" I don't know what they finally sold for, but all that I know of are private sales. I don't know why they would sell now if they are bullish on the market, makes no sense. I think the increase in listings in the last week is owners finding they can't rent the units (over 200 are currently for rent). I am pretty sure the developer has washed their hands of the project, they look relieved! 🙂

Warren

I wouldn't mind getting into Spectrum at $350/sf.. 🙂 What are they going for? Any price drops? Can you tell if these are private sales or maybe the developer unloading a bunch from a building advertised as "sold out"?

Strataman

Update on Barclay and Spectrum; One week of listings no change for 1550 Barclay 59 listings nothing sold. Spectrum Originally 36 listings 5 sold. Today 44 listings 7 sold, one cancelled. Why do people line up for three days to buy something (Millenium-Woodwards) but when there is available condo's of equal quality, no one buys? Because maybe they are not buyers but gamblers? 🙂 Why not buy at the buyers season? Waitin for the price to go…up in the spring? 🙂

Michael Randallbard

Well I have news for all of you. You can have BOTH! You can have a scared hungry neglected traveler throw a minor tantrum and destroy a 20.00 keyboard and throw a chair at a window and them get murdered by the police.One of my buildings had a breakin in the parking lot last week and 22cars had their windows smashed by thieves. There was no violence because most of the tenants are elderly and I wasn't there at the time or there would have been a murder. What Vancouver needs is a vigilante group to bash in the skulls of drug traffickers and to tape shut the mouths of the politcally correct here.Ah geeee. does this sount to harsh for wimpy Canadians? Well then stop complaining because all of these problems don't exist in Singapore, Malaysia, Japan and many… Read more »

patriotz

Further, take a look at this link.The US white homicide rate is about 5 per 100,000. Compare to the total Canadian homicide rate of about 2 per 100,000. And we know that aboriginals in Canada have a much higher homicide rate than the general population. Whether this is true for non-whites in aggregate I'm not sure.

BC Buds

Fewer British Columbians are obese and fewer adults smoke than in any other Canadian province. And B.C. leads the country in life expectancy.Only because there's not enough left over to eat and smoke after paying mortgage, condo fees, and property tax. And with 40 year mortgages we have to live longer!

patriotz

If you compare murder rates outside of these areas — where most people actually live — the US also has a lower homicide rate.That's just wrong. Almost all US metros have a higher murder rate than their Canadian counterparts. For example every Great Lakes US metro has a higher murder rate than Toronto. Rural US does have a lower murder rate than urban Canada, but that's a bogus comparison. So does rural Canada.And if you want to blame minorities, I think you will find the white-on-white murder rate in the US is significantly higher than in Canada.Well I'd rather have a problem with property crime than violent crime anyday.The problem is that property crime is random, but violent crime is not. Almost all victims of violent crime in Canada are people who associate with the wrong people. However choosing your… Read more »

Craig

Warren, the murder rate in the US is skewed by a high rate in certain cities such as Detroit. If you compare murder rates outside of these areas — where most people actually live — the US also has a lower homicide rate. In any case, homicides make up less than 0.1% of criminal offences and thus impact very few people, unlike assaults, robberies and theft.It's also important to look at the trend. Violent crime in the US peaked in the 1970s and has been falling quickly. In the last decade, there has been a roughly 50% fall in violent crime. New York is now safer than Toronto.But if you look at Vancouver, it has steadily risen up the ranks of crime-plagued cities so that it now ranks number two in North America for its violent/property crime rate.At the same… Read more »

Patiently Waiting

I wonder if skyrocketing property crime is a leading indicator of higher violent crime.Extremes of wealth and poverty in Vancouver seem to have trouble written all over it.

Jade East

The largest concern I have is where to keep my gold doubloons. I have converted all my savings to gold coins as recommended but living in an apartment in the Westend has me worried.I'm afraid that burying my treasure has in the past been too conspicuous and carrying it with me all the time becomes too taxing.Does anyone have any ideas where a good place to keep treasure if the banks and my home are not secure?

mold city

rather have violent crime than property crime problems? Its not a binary choice. I'd rather have neither.There's really no upside to having the worst property crime rate in North America.

dosh

Mold you'd rather have violent crime than property crime problems? Warren, agreed!Craig I don't believe it, anyone can put together a graph, no way is Canadas violent crime rate twice that of the US. There's something strange going on with reporting is all I can figure.

Warren

Try comparing the murder rate.

Craig

Well, the CBC would compare Vancouver with Detroit. The fact is that the US has a lower violent crime rate than Canada, has so for a long time, and the gap is widening every year.SFU provides a graph here:http://tinyurl.com/yrk4ruConventional wisdom dies hard.

Warren

I've been a victim of property crime, but never violent crime. I consider that a plus.However, I don't know if this is "news" so much as the way its always been. I took a few Criminology classes in university, and we were always told that the western side of North America always had more property crime, less violent crime (higher overall crime). Add that to the fact that Canada always has more property and less violent crime than the US, and Vancouver is the "perfect storm" of property crime.We've also been very healthy in the west, probably due to more physical/outdoor activity, and more importance being placed on image (think California/LA) so I guess my point is: tell me something I don't know.betablogger, anybody involved in studying crime will tell you that reporting of crime is a huge factor in… Read more »

mold city

I'd rather have a problem with property crimeYeah? Well I`d rather not.