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		<title>By: Reality Check</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/03/vancouver-real-estate-market-slowdown.html#comment-12058</link>
		<dc:creator>Reality Check</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 04:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had the opportunity to speak with one of the key figures in the 2010 Olympics last week, his words resonate with me today.....there is a bubble and it&#039;s heading here. Basically the US economy is in extreme downturn, China has just surpassed Canada as the US&#039; main trading partner....bad US economy tranlates into poor demand for China&#039;s products....poor demand for China and Asian products in general means there will be no money from overseas to fuel our real estate market.

He mentioned about looking at the number of &#039;assignments&#039; coming up on the market as an indicator...these are pre-sold units where the investor hopes to unload at a profit with no intention of carrying the mortgage...these are up and are beginning to have an effect on recent completed builds.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-12058&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had the opportunity to speak with one of the key figures in the 2010 Olympics last week, his words resonate with me today&#8230;..there is a bubble and it&#8217;s heading here. Basically the US economy is in extreme downturn, China has just surpassed Canada as the US&#8217; main trading partner&#8230;.bad US economy tranlates into poor demand for China&#8217;s products&#8230;.poor demand for China and Asian products in general means there will be no money from overseas to fuel our real estate market.</p>
<p>He mentioned about looking at the number of &#8216;assignments&#8217; coming up on the market as an indicator&#8230;these are pre-sold units where the investor hopes to unload at a profit with no intention of carrying the mortgage&#8230;these are up and are beginning to have an effect on recent completed builds.
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		<title>By: Michael Randallbard</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/03/vancouver-real-estate-market-slowdown.html#comment-11643</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Randallbard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 10:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.321gold.com/editorials/russell/russell030508.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;But 28 years of decline has soured the US public on gold. If they are interested at all, they abide by the wise men of the government and the Federal Reserve. &quot;Gold is history,&quot; they are told. &quot;Gold is a story whose time has past.&quot; &quot;Gold is a relic from another era, a useless metal used in fancy dentistry and in jewelry.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-11643&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.321gold.com/editorials/russell/russell030508.html" rel="nofollow">But 28 years of decline has soured the US public on gold. If they are interested at all, they abide by the wise men of the government and the Federal Reserve. &#8220;Gold is history,&#8221; they are told. &#8220;Gold is a story whose time has past.&#8221; &#8220;Gold is a relic from another era, a useless metal used in fancy dentistry and in jewelry.</a>
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		<title>By: Michael Randallbard</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/03/vancouver-real-estate-market-slowdown.html#comment-11637</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Randallbard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 08:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah blueskies that&#039;s why I can buy a million dollar home outright from my gold and silver purchases since 5 years ago. Who cares what happened 204 years ago? Not me. What counts is now. 204 years ago a house in Vancouver was made of twigs and mud and cowhide. Is it worth anything today?

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kitco.com/charts/popup/ag1825nyb.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;You aren&#039;t too bright, maybe this chart will enlighten you. Gee, looks like almost a 500% gain in 5 years, certainly better than stocks or homes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-11637&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah blueskies that&#8217;s why I can buy a million dollar home outright from my gold and silver purchases since 5 years ago. Who cares what happened 204 years ago? Not me. What counts is now. 204 years ago a house in Vancouver was made of twigs and mud and cowhide. Is it worth anything today?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kitco.com/charts/popup/ag1825nyb.html" rel="nofollow">You aren&#8217;t too bright, maybe this chart will enlighten you. Gee, looks like almost a 500% gain in 5 years, certainly better than stocks or homes</a>
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		<title>By: evergreen</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/03/vancouver-real-estate-market-slowdown.html#comment-11496</link>
		<dc:creator>evergreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 00:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, jesse. It&#039;s sheer madness to buy a &lt;i&gt;leasehold&lt;/i&gt; condo at an average $400K. Living like a Tibetan monk might be a good solution while we wait...&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-11496&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, jesse. It&#8217;s sheer madness to buy a <i>leasehold</i> condo at an average $400K. Living like a Tibetan monk might be a good solution while we wait&#8230;
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		<title>By: jesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;&quot;Do you know if this ratio has changed since then?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Yes it has. The trouble is that the average lot size has been decreasing so it&#039;s difficult to compare apples to apples. More families these days are opting for townhouses where 25 years ago they would be comfortably in an SFH.

The ratio may have changed a bit recently with longer amortizations on mortgages but this is really a hidden cost. It will all come out in the wash but you may need the patience of a Tibetan monk.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-11481&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Do you know if this ratio has changed since then?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Yes it has. The trouble is that the average lot size has been decreasing so it&#8217;s difficult to compare apples to apples. More families these days are opting for townhouses where 25 years ago they would be comfortably in an SFH.</p>
<p>The ratio may have changed a bit recently with longer amortizations on mortgages but this is really a hidden cost. It will all come out in the wash but you may need the patience of a Tibetan monk.
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		<title>By: visio</title>
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		<dc:creator>visio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember Syndey? Did they have Olym&#039;pimps&#039; too?
http://www.news.com.au/business/money/story/0,25479,23309209-5013951,00.html?ref=patrick.net&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-11470&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember Syndey? Did they have Olym&#8217;pimps&#8217; too?<br />
<a href="http://www.news.com.au/business/money/story/0,25479,23309209-5013951,00.html?ref=patrick.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.news.com.au/busines.....atrick.net</a>
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		<title>By: blueskies</title>
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		<dc:creator>blueskies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gold!?!

http://tinyurl.com/2ywekz

&lt;i&gt;Gold is a lousy investment. In fact, it may be one of the worst investments you could ever make.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-11467&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gold!?!</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/2ywekz" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/2ywekz</a></p>
<p><i>Gold is a lousy investment. In fact, it may be one of the worst investments you could ever make.</i>
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		<title>By: Strataman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Strataman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gold? 204 years to make a buck! :-)

Now, let&#039;s look at gold. If you get squeamish at the sight of truly horrific investment returns, now would be a good time to turn away.

If you&#039;d put that same $1 into gold, your investment would have grown to … ready? … $1.95. Without adjusting for inflation, your $1 would be worth a whole $32.84

Over the 204-year period studied, $1 invested in the stock market grew to $755,163,

http://tinyurl.com/2ywekz&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-11459&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gold? 204 years to make a buck! <img src='http://vancouvercondo.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Now, let&#8217;s look at gold. If you get squeamish at the sight of truly horrific investment returns, now would be a good time to turn away.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;d put that same $1 into gold, your investment would have grown to … ready? … $1.95. Without adjusting for inflation, your $1 would be worth a whole $32.84</p>
<p>Over the 204-year period studied, $1 invested in the stock market grew to $755,163,</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/2ywekz" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/2ywekz</a>
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		<title>By: incognito</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/03/vancouver-real-estate-market-slowdown.html#comment-11434</link>
		<dc:creator>incognito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 07:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>an anecdotal walk around my neighborhood:

MLS®: V690490 

-dropped $40k after two weeks on market

MLS®: V675745 

-on market since last summer

MLS®: V689607 

-one of 10 listings, in 12 unit duplex complex - on sale since fall 

MLS®: V689070 

-on market most of last year - relisted this year for approximately same price 

one street has 6 houses for sale and three houses being built&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-11434&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>an anecdotal walk around my neighborhood:</p>
<p>MLS®: V690490 </p>
<p>-dropped $40k after two weeks on market</p>
<p>MLS®: V675745 </p>
<p>-on market since last summer</p>
<p>MLS®: V689607 </p>
<p>-one of 10 listings, in 12 unit duplex complex &#8211; on sale since fall </p>
<p>MLS®: V689070 </p>
<p>-on market most of last year &#8211; relisted this year for approximately same price </p>
<p>one street has 6 houses for sale and three houses being built
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		<title>By: Michael Randallbard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Randallbard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 06:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.investmentrarities.com/02-26-08.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ARTICLE YOU WILL FIND ON SILVER&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-11432&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Randallbard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Randallbard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 06:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ishares.com/product_info/fund/overview/SLV.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;click on silver bars list&lt;/a&gt; for SLV bar number list. This is the biggest pdf file you will ever see&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-11431&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.ishares.com/product_info/fund/overview/SLV.htm" rel="nofollow">click on silver bars list</a> for SLV bar number list. This is the biggest pdf file you will ever see
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		<title>By: Michael Randallbard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Randallbard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 06:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this the best....go Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays and ask for Jim

Western Coins &amp; Stamp Ltd  - 604-278-3235
2-6380 No. 3 Road , Richmond , BC V6Y 2B3&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-11430&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this the best&#8230;.go Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays and ask for Jim</p>
<p>Western Coins &amp; Stamp Ltd  &#8211; 604-278-3235<br />
2-6380 No. 3 Road , Richmond , BC V6Y 2B3
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		<title>By: Michael Randallbard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Randallbard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 06:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.yellowpages.ca/search/si/1/Coin%2BDealers%252C%2BSupplies%252C%2BEtc/Vancouver/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;HERE ARE SOME DEALERS FOR PHYSICAL BULLION&lt;/A&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-11429&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: DEFAULT NAME</title>
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		<dc:creator>DEFAULT NAME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 06:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by Domus 
2008-03-03 21:40:28 
Hey Randallbard,

&quot;what is the best way to buy silver in Canada? Is there a CAD$ ETF (or fund) or do you buy SLV in the US?&quot;


For physical silver the best would be to hold it yourself perferably the 1000oz Engelhard of Johnson Matthey bars but definately not in certificate form as that is a piece of paper and institutes such as the Bank of Nova Scotia who sell you such products don&#039;t charge insurance or storage fee when they sell you that certificate.  Hence they probably don&#039;t even have the physical to back up your certificate as they have sold it short or else they would charge you those fees when they sell you the certificates.

SLV&#039;s problem is in its custodial arrangements.  The silver is unallocated and pooled thus you don&#039;t actually have a claim on any bar and the auditing of the holdings are almost impossible. 

The Central Fund of Canada (CEF.A) which is 50% gold 50% silver but at times trades at a premium over NAV as its downside - but you can also sell at a premium, and also Millenium Bullion Fund (MBF100) which is actually one of if not the top performing mutual fund tracked by Morningstar Canada since the beggining of 2008.  MBF100 holds 33% gold 33% silver and 33% platinum and unlike CEF.A trades at NAV.  MBF100&#039;s downside is its MER&#039;s running at 3%.  SLV, CEF.A and MBF100 all have their upside and downside.  Take your pick....

Now I thought this was a housing blog.  Why are we on the topic of tangible assets without counterparty risks?  I want to hear and see the housing bubble collapse!! muhahaha&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-11427&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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2008-03-03 21:40:28<br />
Hey Randallbard,</p>
<p>&#8220;what is the best way to buy silver in Canada? Is there a CAD$ ETF (or fund) or do you buy SLV in the US?&#8221;</p>
<p>For physical silver the best would be to hold it yourself perferably the 1000oz Engelhard of Johnson Matthey bars but definately not in certificate form as that is a piece of paper and institutes such as the Bank of Nova Scotia who sell you such products don&#8217;t charge insurance or storage fee when they sell you that certificate.  Hence they probably don&#8217;t even have the physical to back up your certificate as they have sold it short or else they would charge you those fees when they sell you the certificates.</p>
<p>SLV&#8217;s problem is in its custodial arrangements.  The silver is unallocated and pooled thus you don&#8217;t actually have a claim on any bar and the auditing of the holdings are almost impossible. </p>
<p>The Central Fund of Canada (CEF.A) which is 50% gold 50% silver but at times trades at a premium over NAV as its downside &#8211; but you can also sell at a premium, and also Millenium Bullion Fund (MBF100) which is actually one of if not the top performing mutual fund tracked by Morningstar Canada since the beggining of 2008.  MBF100 holds 33% gold 33% silver and 33% platinum and unlike CEF.A trades at NAV.  MBF100&#8242;s downside is its MER&#8217;s running at 3%.  SLV, CEF.A and MBF100 all have their upside and downside.  Take your pick&#8230;.</p>
<p>Now I thought this was a housing blog.  Why are we on the topic of tangible assets without counterparty risks?  I want to hear and see the housing bubble collapse!! muhahaha
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		<title>By: Domus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Domus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 05:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Randallbard,

what is the best way to buy silver in Canada? Is there a CAD$ ETF (or fund) or do you buy SLV in the US?&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-11425&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Randallbard,</p>
<p>what is the best way to buy silver in Canada? Is there a CAD$ ETF (or fund) or do you buy SLV in the US?
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		<title>By: Michael Randallbard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Randallbard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 04:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.silverstockreport.com/2008/squeeze.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;URGENT MESSAGE.....YOUR FINANCIAL SALVATION IS IN THIS POST...PAY HEED&lt;/A&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-11423&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.silverstockreport.com/2008/squeeze.html" rel="nofollow">URGENT MESSAGE&#8230;..YOUR FINANCIAL SALVATION IS IN THIS POST&#8230;PAY HEED</a>
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		<title>By: evergreen</title>
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		<dc:creator>evergreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 03:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I was basing it on a random stat I remembered from first or second year Economics class, that housing had gone up at a ratio of 3 to 1 versus income since 1970&lt;/i&gt;

bdk, good to read your post and get a scientific ratio for housing versus income, (3:1). Do you know if this ratio has changed since then? What do you think might be a sensible ratio now so that we can compute an adjusted real price for housing and get an idea when it&#039;s safe to buy?&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-11422&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I was basing it on a random stat I remembered from first or second year Economics class, that housing had gone up at a ratio of 3 to 1 versus income since 1970</i></p>
<p>bdk, good to read your post and get a scientific ratio for housing versus income, (3:1). Do you know if this ratio has changed since then? What do you think might be a sensible ratio now so that we can compute an adjusted real price for housing and get an idea when it&#8217;s safe to buy?
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		<title>By: mk-kids</title>
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		<dc:creator>mk-kids</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 03:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ROFLMAO jesse! Thanks for that!&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-11421&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ROFLMAO jesse! Thanks for that!
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		<title>By: sheeplessinvancouver</title>
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		<dc:creator>sheeplessinvancouver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 01:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hate to rip the ladder out from under yor feet, but rather than trying to gauge the market from what your 2 buddies are doing/saying/seeing, why not tune into the stats from FVREB to discover that sales this January were down 4%, and listings were up 18%.&quot;

&quot;For a more recent indication, paulb’s blog tells us that North Van inventory jumped 31%, and West Van listings jumped 35% during the first 2 months this year.&quot;

The observations I&#039;ve made have come from walking around the neighbourhood and comparing what I&#039;m seeing to the past. Maybe it&#039;s the calm before the storm. I&#039;m not friends with these people, but curious enough about the real estate market to ask questions. Friends who were trying to make money from real estate sold last year. 

And I personally haven&#039;t any worries. I&#039;d like to see prices go down so I can buy another property when prices are about to hit bottom.

I don&#039;t know much about North Van, but I have been expecting prices to go down in the Valley with gas prices going up and traffic being what it is. This is more anecdotal evidence, but I&#039;ve talked to a few who gave up that big place in Langley to move to a smaller place in Vancouver/Burnaby/New West because they were tired of spending time and money commuting. This may take some time because our high dollar is keeping gas prices relatively low.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-11420&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hate to rip the ladder out from under yor feet, but rather than trying to gauge the market from what your 2 buddies are doing/saying/seeing, why not tune into the stats from FVREB to discover that sales this January were down 4%, and listings were up 18%.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;For a more recent indication, paulb’s blog tells us that North Van inventory jumped 31%, and West Van listings jumped 35% during the first 2 months this year.&#8221;</p>
<p>The observations I&#8217;ve made have come from walking around the neighbourhood and comparing what I&#8217;m seeing to the past. Maybe it&#8217;s the calm before the storm. I&#8217;m not friends with these people, but curious enough about the real estate market to ask questions. Friends who were trying to make money from real estate sold last year. </p>
<p>And I personally haven&#8217;t any worries. I&#8217;d like to see prices go down so I can buy another property when prices are about to hit bottom.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know much about North Van, but I have been expecting prices to go down in the Valley with gas prices going up and traffic being what it is. This is more anecdotal evidence, but I&#8217;ve talked to a few who gave up that big place in Langley to move to a smaller place in Vancouver/Burnaby/New West because they were tired of spending time and money commuting. This may take some time because our high dollar is keeping gas prices relatively low.
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		<title>By: blueskies</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 01:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Was it primary or secondary efflorescence?&lt;/i&gt;

it was  tit-uary efflorescence complete with pasties  :-)&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-11419&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>it was  tit-uary efflorescence complete with pasties  <img src='http://vancouvercondo.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>By: Drachen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drachen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 00:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know what it is jesse, that&#039;s why I asked if it was primary or secondary.  Primary means essentially nothing, secondary would be a sign of water intrusion.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-11418&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know what it is jesse, that&#8217;s why I asked if it was primary or secondary.  Primary means essentially nothing, secondary would be a sign of water intrusion.
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		<title>By: jesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drachen: Wikipedia article on &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efflorescence&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Efflorescence&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-11417&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drachen: Wikipedia article on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efflorescence" rel="nofollow">Efflorescence</a>
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		<title>By: Joe just Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe just Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would stay away from anything associated with Chandler, but what you&#039;re seeing is most likely just mortar mixed extremely rich, it will produce what you are describing, they use an extra rich mixture as it&#039;s safer then not being rich enough, they problem dissappears as it leeches out, takes about a year. That being said there could be other problems with that project.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-11415&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would stay away from anything associated with Chandler, but what you&#8217;re seeing is most likely just mortar mixed extremely rich, it will produce what you are describing, they use an extra rich mixture as it&#8217;s safer then not being rich enough, they problem dissappears as it leeches out, takes about a year. That being said there could be other problems with that project.
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		<title>By: franko</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&quot;Some anecdotal information about what ordinary people seem to be doing/saying/seeing&quot;&quot;

sheeplessin vancouver,

Hate to rip the ladder out from under yor feet, but rather than trying to gauge the market from what your 2 buddies are doing/saying/seeing, why not tune into the stats from FVREB to discover that sales this January were down 4%, and listings were up 18%.

For a more recent indication, paulb&#039;s blog tells us that North Van inventory jumped 31%, and West Van listings jumped 35% during the first 2 months this year.

Maybe it&#039;s time to wake up, No?&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-11414&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8221;Some anecdotal information about what ordinary people seem to be doing/saying/seeing&#8221;"</p>
<p>sheeplessin vancouver,</p>
<p>Hate to rip the ladder out from under yor feet, but rather than trying to gauge the market from what your 2 buddies are doing/saying/seeing, why not tune into the stats from FVREB to discover that sales this January were down 4%, and listings were up 18%.</p>
<p>For a more recent indication, paulb&#8217;s blog tells us that North Van inventory jumped 31%, and West Van listings jumped 35% during the first 2 months this year.</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s time to wake up, No?
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		<title>By: aetakeo</title>
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		<dc:creator>aetakeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesse, you cracked me up.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-11413&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesse, you cracked me up.
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