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		<title>By: jun</title>
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		<dc:creator>jun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 19:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OKAY, here is the BIG message. Vancouver real estate price will continue going up. 
The reasons are here: 
 
1. Vancouver is open up straight to Asia. China and India people in this century will be making the big big money. However, people who live in Vancouver locally will continue to wonder why they have so much money. Well, they will have more and more money!! and they are not afraid of buying!! 
 
2. Commodity price all over the world. &#8220;Everything&#8221; is going to cost more in this age. &#8220;Everything&#8221;, but money (currency). Drastically, the cost of building the same building will cost much higher. You have China having crisis with the earth quake. They are going to buy extra extra resource with whatever it costs. It will beat up the commodity price even more. 
 
US dollar weakness. The weakness is going to drive up the commodity even further. 
 
3. The resource in Canada. Canada, itself, has a very low population, big land and lots of nature resources. Canada has a huge potential, and a lot of people in the world knows that. What do you think just the people in India and China are going to think? 
 
I have pointed out a few things that I hope you are going to really think about clearly. Be open minded, the globe is a lot bigger and changing a lot faster now. Don&#8217;t trap yourself and being stubborn. Do what you can still and be wise. &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-18506&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OKAY, here is the BIG message. Vancouver real estate price will continue going up.</p>
<p>The reasons are here:</p>
<p>1. Vancouver is open up straight to Asia. China and India people in this century will be making the big big money. However, people who live in Vancouver locally will continue to wonder why they have so much money. Well, they will have more and more money!! and they are not afraid of buying!!</p>
<p>2. Commodity price all over the world. &ldquo;Everything&rdquo; is going to cost more in this age. &ldquo;Everything&rdquo;, but money (currency). Drastically, the cost of building the same building will cost much higher. You have China having crisis with the earth quake. They are going to buy extra extra resource with whatever it costs. It will beat up the commodity price even more.</p>
<p>US dollar weakness. The weakness is going to drive up the commodity even further.</p>
<p>3. The resource in Canada. Canada, itself, has a very low population, big land and lots of nature resources. Canada has a huge potential, and a lot of people in the world knows that. What do you think just the people in India and China are going to think?</p>
<p>I have pointed out a few things that I hope you are going to really think about clearly. Be open minded, the globe is a lot bigger and changing a lot faster now. Don&rsquo;t trap yourself and being stubborn. Do what you can still and be wise.
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		<title>By: sheeplessinvancouver</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/05/depreciation-fantasy.html#comment-18389</link>
		<dc:creator>sheeplessinvancouver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 23:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, that should have read &quot;uranium&quot; not &quot;radiation&quot;. If commodity prices, including uranium, continue to rise, I guess you could always rip out the countertop and sell it. &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-18389&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, that should have read &quot;uranium&quot; not &quot;radiation&quot;. If commodity prices, including uranium, continue to rise, I guess you could always rip out the countertop and sell it.
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		<title>By: sheeplessinvancouver</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/05/depreciation-fantasy.html#comment-18388</link>
		<dc:creator>sheeplessinvancouver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 23:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;and the discovery of the unique health hazards caused by granite and stainless steel&quot; 
 
Not a fantasy. Granite contains small amounts of radiation. According to Wikipedia it&#039;s about 10 to 20 ppm. &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-18388&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;and the discovery of the unique health hazards caused by granite and stainless steel&quot;</p>
<p>Not a fantasy. Granite contains small amounts of radiation. According to Wikipedia it&#039;s about 10 to 20 ppm.
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		<title>By: distraction</title>
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		<dc:creator>distraction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 16:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;why do you people think it’s going to drop in price. Any market has correction&lt;/b&gt;

Thats a contradiction.  A correction is a drop in price and isn&#039;t this a market?  Would you consider a realtors view more educated? Rob Chipman is on record as expecting a &#039;correction&#039; of up to 20%.  How many thousands of dollars does that represent off the average house in Vancouver?&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-18293&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>why do you people think it’s going to drop in price. Any market has correction</b></p>
<p>Thats a contradiction.  A correction is a drop in price and isn&#8217;t this a market?  Would you consider a realtors view more educated? Rob Chipman is on record as expecting a &#8216;correction&#8217; of up to 20%.  How many thousands of dollars does that represent off the average house in Vancouver?
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		<title>By: alexcanuck</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/05/depreciation-fantasy.html#comment-18284</link>
		<dc:creator>alexcanuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 14:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;All the comments are quite uneducated&lt;/i&gt;
Yes, we need to be sent to a re-education camp, where we can learn obvious &quot;truths&quot; such as: 
Nepal is truly better off under the generals rather than that terrorist radical the Dal Lama.

The smell in the misty air and the taste in the taste in the murky water is healthy.

If you can &lt;strike&gt;steal and loot the villagers property or children&lt;/strike&gt; deservedly earn enough to come to Canada then the property market just won&#039;t crash.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-18284&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>All the comments are quite uneducated</i><br />
Yes, we need to be sent to a re-education camp, where we can learn obvious &#8220;truths&#8221; such as:<br />
Nepal is truly better off under the generals rather than that terrorist radical the Dal Lama.</p>
<p>The smell in the misty air and the taste in the taste in the murky water is healthy.</p>
<p>If you can <strike>steal and loot the villagers property or children</strike> deservedly earn enough to come to Canada then the property market just won&#8217;t crash.
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		<title>By: crabman</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/05/depreciation-fantasy.html#comment-18304</link>
		<dc:creator>crabman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 09:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;3. Canada&#8217;s housing market is not overbuilt. &lt;b&gt;COUGH&#8230; CHOKE&#8230;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; 
 
This is yet another one of those &quot;Canada is not like the US&quot; myths.  Lets look at some numbers from the 2001 and 2006 &lt;a href=&quot;http://www12.statcan.ca/english/census06/data/popdwell/Table.cfm?T=101&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; censuses&lt;/a&gt;: 
 
2001: 
Population - 30,007,094 
Housing Units - 12,548,588 
Population/Units - 2.39 
 
2006: 
Population - 31,612,897 
Housing Units - 13,576,855 
Housing Units Required - 13,227,154  (Population/2.39) 
Overbuilt - 349,701 
 
The population of Canada has been growing at about 321k/year. This means we need an additional 134k housing units/year. (2.39 people/unit)  But we&#039;ve been building over&lt;a href=&quot;http://www40.statcan.ca/l01/cst01/manuf05.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; 200k/year&lt;/a&gt; for several years. 
 
In 2007 there were 228,343 housing starts, and in 2008 there should be about 214,650. If there is a need for 134k/year, it means 174k were/will be added to the excess supply in 2007 and 2008. 
 
Adding this 174k to the 2006 total of 349k brings the total to 523k, or almost 4 years worth of overbuilding! &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-18304&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>3. Canada&rsquo;s housing market is not overbuilt. <b>COUGH&hellip; CHOKE&hellip;</b></i></p>
<p>This is yet another one of those &quot;Canada is not like the US&quot; myths.  Lets look at some numbers from the 2001 and 2006 <a href="http://www12.statcan.ca/english/census06/data/popdwell/Table.cfm?T=101" rel="nofollow"> censuses</a>:</p>
<p>2001:</p>
<p>Population &#8211; 30,007,094</p>
<p>Housing Units &#8211; 12,548,588</p>
<p>Population/Units &#8211; 2.39</p>
<p>2006:</p>
<p>Population &#8211; 31,612,897</p>
<p>Housing Units &#8211; 13,576,855</p>
<p>Housing Units Required &#8211; 13,227,154  (Population/2.39)</p>
<p>Overbuilt &#8211; 349,701</p>
<p>The population of Canada has been growing at about 321k/year. This means we need an additional 134k housing units/year. (2.39 people/unit)  But we&#039;ve been building over<a href="http://www40.statcan.ca/l01/cst01/manuf05.htm" rel="nofollow"> 200k/year</a> for several years.</p>
<p>In 2007 there were 228,343 housing starts, and in 2008 there should be about 214,650. If there is a need for 134k/year, it means 174k were/will be added to the excess supply in 2007 and 2008.</p>
<p>Adding this 174k to the 2006 total of 349k brings the total to 523k, or almost 4 years worth of overbuilding!
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		<title>By: BBY</title>
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		<dc:creator>BBY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 07:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jun said &quot;please someone talk about real estate on a more educated ground.&quot;
Jun, if that&#039;s what you want, then STFU.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-18265&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jun said &#8220;please someone talk about real estate on a more educated ground.&#8221;<br />
Jun, if that&#8217;s what you want, then STFU.
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		<title>By: crabman</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/05/depreciation-fantasy.html#comment-18287</link>
		<dc:creator>crabman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 06:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;...why do you people think it&#8217;s going to drop in price. Any market has correction, but the assumption you guys make is simply unreasonable. So&#8230; please someone talk about real estate on a more educated ground.&lt;/i&gt; 
 
I&#039;m not sure what assumptions are so unreasonable. If you seriously want educated opinions why real estate in Vancouver is likely to crash, we can answer a lot of questions you may have. If you are just upset that this will happen and want to vent, we can&#039;t help you. &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-18287&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230;why do you people think it&rsquo;s going to drop in price. Any market has correction, but the assumption you guys make is simply unreasonable. So&hellip; please someone talk about real estate on a more educated ground.</i></p>
<p>I&#039;m not sure what assumptions are so unreasonable. If you seriously want educated opinions why real estate in Vancouver is likely to crash, we can answer a lot of questions you may have. If you are just upset that this will happen and want to vent, we can&#039;t help you.
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		<title>By: jun</title>
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		<dc:creator>jun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 06:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the comments are quite uneducated. It is simply going to cost more to build as time. All the commodity price is going up, why do you people think it&#039;s going to drop in price. Any market has correction, but the assumption you guys make is simply unreasonable. So... please someone talk about real estate on a more educated ground.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-18263&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the comments are quite uneducated. It is simply going to cost more to build as time. All the commodity price is going up, why do you people think it&#8217;s going to drop in price. Any market has correction, but the assumption you guys make is simply unreasonable. So&#8230; please someone talk about real estate on a more educated ground.
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		<title>By: BBY</title>
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		<dc:creator>BBY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 06:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if the W is a boondoggle. I hope not because I agree with the concept of &quot;fixing&quot; the DTES.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-18262&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if the W is a boondoggle. I hope not because I agree with the concept of &#8220;fixing&#8221; the DTES.
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