May 2008 mid-month inventory

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Umdesch4 posted this updated REBGV inventory chart this weekend, showing the dramatic listings activity we’re seeing this spring in Vancouver. That purple line shows how inventory is building beyond levels seen at any point in the last few years.

The monthly inventory graph comes from Paul Boenisch, who shares monthly inventory graphs for the entire REBGV and sub areas. This graph has been updated to the 15th of May based on the daily stats Paul makes available on his website. Pauls blog is here.

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    The Pope Says:Reply to this comment

    Thanks Umdesch4 and Paul! If either of you have an issue with me posting this here just let me know.

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    paulb Says:Reply to this comment

    Alarming isn’t it? If in the coming weeks we no not buck the trend we are in for a rough ride.

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    franko Says:Reply to this comment

    I can’t think of a single item that could possibly affect price direction more than supply and demand, and I can’t think of anything that could possibly influence supply and demand more than this wild inventory spike.

    it’s amazing that there are still some idiots out there looking to buy into this market.

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    Dosh Says:Reply to this comment

    I can’t think of a single item that could possibly affect price direction more than supply and demand

    except people have been saying we’re overbuilding for years and prices still go up. I expect we’ll see a lot of sales this summer, at least now buyers have a lot to choose from.

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    BBY Says:Reply to this comment

    Sales are low now because all those buyers have so much to choose from. So many more open houses to see than previous years. It takes time to see all those buzzing open houses. Yup, all the buzzing open houses that sound like this…
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    [crickets chirping]
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    There are fewer buyers now, Douche, er Dosh. They’re not waiting to show up for the summer. It seems that sales are going down YOY and MOM. Why should they wait for summer?

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    Warren Says:Reply to this comment

    Continued thanks to Paul for his good work. It should be an interesting spring/summer season. When will this hit the media, end of May maybe?

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    laffo Says:Reply to this comment

    Either the cognitive dissonance of Vancouverite property market shills is overpowering to its victims or the rotten culture of Vancouver Stock Exchange penny stock promotion (read: lying) is still alive and well in all those who claim that the real estate market couldn’t possibly deflate.

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    Anonymouse Says:Reply to this comment

    Vancouver… nothing but a two bit marshland of feces

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    The Pope Says:Reply to this comment

    When will this hit the media, end of May maybe?

    There will likely be some mention of this in the local papers after the end of May, offset by the usual suspects spin on how it represents more choice and a return to a balanced market. I suspect you won’t see many articles putting too much focus on the big inventory increase and sales drop-off for at least a couple of months. If this trend continues it will be very hard to ignore and become trickier to spin.

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    sidelines Says:Reply to this comment

    That’s right, Dosh, looking good for buyers.

    Listings at levels not seen for years - what a sight, that graph! This, while the number of buyers (demand) doesn’t appear to be following the same trend.

    So, yes indeed, lots of supply (or choice, as you put it).

    How does this square off with the idea some have that real estate prices can’t go down in this city, that they will just keep going up, up, up?

    When you have a big increase in supply and no similar increase in demand, what it is that happens again?

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    Warren Says:Reply to this comment

    Speaking of spin, Bill Good will be hosting Garth Turner on his show tomorrow, some time between 9am and 12 noon on CKNW. Lets see what Booster-Bill can say in response to Garth’s views. Turner isn’t my favorite person, but at least he has a fairly objective view on the perils of RE.

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    The Pope Says:Reply to this comment

    On a side note, can you guys lay off the krissh impersonations? I don’t think we need the echo, but lets have a democratic experiment:

    *edit* ok, message received, thanks! I’ve removed those comments, please keep it reasonably civilized folks.

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    aetakeo Says:Reply to this comment

    Wow. Picture like that is worth a thousand words; it’s reminiscent of the foothills of the price spike in VHB’s old “you are here” graph for westside condos. The market’s supply side a reflection of the demand, forward 6 years.

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    Rob A. Says:Reply to this comment

    lol, you can add my condo in the heart of downtown to that list. I accepted a great job in Ontario so I called me agent today and told her that I am “very motivated” :)

    First thing I am going to buy with my massive profits is a new Boss suit :D

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    Drachen Says:Reply to this comment

    Dosh

    “I expect we’ll see a lot of sales this summer, at least now buyers have a lot to choose from.”

    Isn’t this almost word for word what David Liareh said when the US market was entering the same phase?

    You’re not fooling anyone here into buying Dosh, might as well take in the shingle, close out your office rental and join the unemployment line now to get in ahead of the crowd.

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    blueskies Says:Reply to this comment

    I expect we’ll see a lot of sales this summer

    the heavy lifting season for sales is spring, not the summer doldrums.

    what is now happening here is what happened in California 2 years ago. the ol’ “Silent Spring” scenario.

    scary enough is this is literally “word for word” what went down in ‘06 in California…… it is not different here and
    it is not different this time…..

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    bdk Says:Reply to this comment

    You’re all wrong, increased supply and lack of qualified buyers means the market will go up more!

    Rob A.:
    Boss suits only cost $1200
    Is that big money to you?

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    bdk Says:Reply to this comment

    If you were to try to rent out your condo you’d be losing 2 Boss suits per month, same goes for any speculator out there trying to make money in the market by renting out a unit while awaiting gains in resale value.
    That means 2 less suits to where to the cafe! where the action is!

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    read on Says:Reply to this comment

    hey now, lets not be too hard on Rob-A - afterall, he’s just turned bear and is selling his condo.

    if he was still a RE bull(****er), he’d be holiding onto it so he could make more profits while he moves to TO.

    And to be honest, Boss suits are rather tacky.

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    Tony Danza Says:Reply to this comment

    lol, you can add my condo in the heart of downtown to that list. I accepted a great job in Ontario so I called me agent today and told her that I am “very motivated”

    Yet on Friday you were going out for “dinner on the patio” and then “snuggling with the GF” in your sky cell? Sure you got a job offer, riiight.

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    bdk Says:Reply to this comment

    Yet on Friday you were going out for “dinner on the patio” and then “snuggling with the GF” in your sky cell? Sure you got a job offer, riiight.

    Not only that the market was going to go up,up,up

    What building are you in Rob A.?
    I can see the listings before they hit the MLS

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    TICK TOCK, TICK TOCK Says:Reply to this comment

    “it’s amazing that there are still some idiots out there looking to buy into this market.”

    Not at all surprised, this is a bubble, and there will be idiots buying until the 11th hour and 59.99999 seconds.

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    TICK TOCK, TICK TOCK Says:Reply to this comment

    Looks like it may follow the Hong Kong pattern…prices drop a little, the last of the fools jump in, (2007 dead cat bounce) , then a few minor pick ups, and then the final nail…..50% drop

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    Rob A. Says:Reply to this comment

    “Yet on Friday you were going out for “dinner on the patio” and then “snuggling with the GF” in your sky cell? Sure you got a job offer, riiight.”

    And now it is Tuesday, what’s your point?

    I’m still bullish on real estate in beautiful downtown Vancouver. If you are into caffes and resturants it is the place to be.

    But I don’t want to hold onto a condo and rent it out while I am on the otherside of the country. Hopefully I can get this deal done before I go and reap the rewords of my intelligence, foresight, and courage!

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    Rob A. Says:Reply to this comment

    And yes $1200 is a significant amount of money to me. I’m just an average guy trying to get ahead make some extra cash. I’m not a baller like you bdk.

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    blueskies Says:Reply to this comment

    before I go and reap the rewords of my intelligence, foresight, and courage!

    we’ll judge that based on the metrics:
    what did you pay for your unit?
    when did you buy it?
    what are you listing it for?
    what are your closing costs/mortgage payout?

    ps: you can pick up a Boss suit on consignment
    for less than $250 if you are into tacky name brand stuff

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    Warren Says:Reply to this comment

    Many thumbs up (great new system BTW) to anyone who can find and track Rob A.’s condo sale. Does anybody know what he paid and when he bought?

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    Anonymous Says:Reply to this comment

    If Rob A gives up the address I’ll post the purchase price and eventual selling price (if it even sells).

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    lance Says:Reply to this comment

    I don’t get it, how could $1200 be a lot of money for you? thats just the normal monthly ‘ownership premium’ you pay for a 1 bedroom apartment right now.

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    Tony Danza Says:Reply to this comment

    And now it is Tuesday, what’s your point?

    Who here has ever accepted a job offer (not including McDonald’s or box stacking) over a long weekend?

    In other words Rob A. I believe you are full of sh#t. :) How will you ever survive without all the “caffes” and hip restaurants in TO? What about the “place to be”? Surprising how the bears come out of the woodwork once things slip a little.

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    blueskies Says:Reply to this comment

    In other words Rob A. I believe you are full of sh#t. :) How will you ever survive without all the “caffes” and hip restaurants in TO? What about the “place to be”? Surprising how the bears come out of the woodwork once things slip a little.

    make that pseudo-bears seeing as how Rob A is a bull wannabe to start with….

    there is nothing like finding religion when you are in the trenches and getting shot at…..

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    Rob A. Says:Reply to this comment

    lance, I guess you are just a big time baller if you think 1.2k is nothing. That’s fine with me. Maybe when I get my profits from selling my condo I can be a bit like you too.

    Oh, and I’m sure it will sell. I’m not interested in this dragging out.

    I’ve priced it to move :D

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    Rob A. Says:Reply to this comment

    As I said before, I am still a bear. I am selling because my situation has changed. Onward and upward! I hope all of you enjoy being priced out forever!

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    bdk Says:Reply to this comment

    Are you saying it’s listed already?
    When did you sign the contract? Is it on the MLS already?

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    Drachen Says:Reply to this comment

    “As I said before, I am still a bear.”

    I think you have that backwards.

    I hope you like the taste of your Ikea furniture because you’ll be eating it before winter.

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    -A- Says:Reply to this comment

    I sure hope the specuvestors don’t panic-just yet.

    I prefer that they wait for next spring, while a few more thousand boxes and a few 10s of thousands of Mac Mansions get built.

    What’s the point of having a bust if it’s not going to be spectacular so that we will not have the appetite for another bubble for at least 25 years?

    If they pull the listings off the market, and prices don’t drop precipitously it will give the greater fools a wrong reading, and they will keep building and leveraging until the bottom falls out overnight.

    I’d like that, MLS @36,000, the Olympic bills start to come in, the government make work projects winding down, some young couple/team economist/journalist take the RE Pimps to court as an experiment and are almost successful at a class action suit.

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    vanguy Says:Reply to this comment

    I’m starting to think that dear Paul is going to start getting some heat from his fellow realtors if he keeps giving us the numbers like this…

    Having said that, if I ever do buy a north shore condo, he would be the first realtor I contact.

    How come Paul (a realtor) is more honest than all these so-called journalists, and economists in this province?

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    blueskies Says:Reply to this comment

    What’s the point of having a bust if it’s not going to be spectacular so that we will not have the appetite for another bubble for at least 25 years?

    don’t worry, this is just getting started.
    it will be both spectacular and profound….
    think new paradigm….

    given our Canadian demographics, who’s going to buy all this RE?
    especially in the suburbs given our current energy problems.

    long-term depreciating asset class….
    “No bottom in sight” boomer mantra for the 00’s

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    -A- Says:Reply to this comment

    After the crash, I also will call Paul B.

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    paulb Says:Reply to this comment

    Thanks for the support guys! I get a kick out of meeting the people behind the avatars.

    Not once has anyone at my office said a peep to me. In general Realtors have no interest in my site. My site is local and although it has seen great growth, we are still small bananas.

    I find change exciting and although I am nervous about the market correcting I feel it’s necessary for the greater good of the Vancouver housing market. Where we will be in two or three years is anyone’s guess, and could be shocking.

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    Anonymous Says:Reply to this comment

    CBC is reporting a plunge in visitors to Canada:

    http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/.....ml?ref=rss

    So let’s recap. BC’s economy is based on:

    1. Forestry
    2. Construction
    3. Tourism

    Unless you count grow-ops, things aren’t looking too good for BC’s ability to sustain house prices.

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    blueskies Says:Reply to this comment

    4. nail gun repair
    5. pallet stacker

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    Strataman Says:Reply to this comment

    The rich people don’t like Vancouver apparently….even in Canada!
    http://tinyurl.com/4r2feq

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    JR Says:Reply to this comment

    Paul

    Get your fruits right. That’s small potatos</i) not bananas. Just yanking your chain. There will always be sales no matter the condition of the market. Intelligent customers will seek out realistic, straight shooting realtors, particularly when the air starts to leak from this bubble. Your numbers and blog will pay you dividends so I hope that whatever happens you keep it up.

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    JR Says:Reply to this comment

    Clearly, I am html challenged. Italics were supposed to stop after “potatos”.

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    Anonymous Says:Reply to this comment

    “Not once has anyone at my office said a peep to me. In general Realtors have no interest in my site.”

    Paul,

    Realtors may have no interest in your site, but many others do!!!

    Thanks for providing the stats.

    What does the GVREB think about you providing such detailed daily information in a very easy to read format? No spin - straight up numbers. I can’t see them being very thrilled about this.

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    rocker guy Says:Reply to this comment

    Rob A, you’re my hero - selling now while the going is still going in some way shape or form. Looks like you’re a reformed bull. My hat is off to you. Enjoy the suit and enjoy your new job in the big smoke while we wait with baited breath for the bottom to fall out here in rain town!

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    -A- Says:Reply to this comment

    Hello Blue, I like the nail gun repair one, (I remember,that one)

    But remember the real pro gun repairs are done only in the Valley.

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    umdesch4 Says:Reply to this comment

    Holy crap! I’m famous…or something. For the record, I have no qualms whatsoever about seeing this here.

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    -A- Says:Reply to this comment

    Rob A, now that you are leaving, will you tell us which of one of the dogs are you?

    Newsflash, tqn, Rob, Realitycheck?

    If you tell us I will tell you my current handle at the other blog.

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    Snick Says:Reply to this comment

    Wha? Me worry?

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    umdesch4 Says:Reply to this comment

    …oh and Paul, excellent to see you on here. Yes, your numbers and graphs are VERY valuable, and watched carefully by many of us. I hope you didn’t have any issue with my extension of the data point, I just wanted to eyeball it for myself, and once I saw the result, it was a “picture worth 1000 words” that I wanted to share.

    Cheers!

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    blueskies Says:Reply to this comment

    -A-
    i posted this over on robs’ site
    thought you might enjoy
    the poetic moment :-)

    blueskies { 05.20.08 at 5:11 pm }

    Biseroni:

    Spinmeister 9000
    don’t need no stinkin’ bio
    read the bluebook dude

    haiku for RE :-)

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    Thums up2 Says:Reply to this comment

    To The idiot in-charge,
    those numbers are not your personal property, you can publish them but if you comment on them that makes you to call some one’s whore you dum head.

    “Congratulation North Vancouver Prices are up-some time ago”
    To whom the fuck were you telling all that bs?

    “Excellent North Vancouver +3%” what the fuck was that?

    North Vancouver is 3% down oh now what to do?

    Mother fucking Realtors like you and jeff stand for best filthy idiots on earth.Tell us….
    What do you tell to your client as buyers?
    what do you tell to your clients as sellers?
    if you know the answer in your mind, you and jeff should figure out properly who the fuck you are? you fucking filthy idiot.Did you ever talk to your dad Cameron Muir about this I am sure you are registerd with some othername to the board.

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    solipsist Says:Reply to this comment

    Clearly, I am html challenged. Italics were supposed to stop after “potatos”.

    And I’m sure that you meant potatoes to be inside those italics.

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    JR Says:Reply to this comment

    Soplist.

    Correct. I meant “potatoes”. I am also spelling challenged it appears. Now, with that out of the way, how might “Thums up2″ acquire a brain? Seems he’s had a frontal lobotomy.

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    blueskies Says:Reply to this comment

    To The idiot in-charge……..SNIP…….othername to the board.

    totally pissed bull

    gotta luv it!

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    Ari Telias Says:Reply to this comment

    Actually I do not think it’s a bull. Reading between the lines I actually see an angry bear who is SO outraged he has diffculties stopping to spell check.
    I think he did not notice that WE are on HIS side.

    Relax, our angry friend, and tell us why you are growling…

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    -A- Says:Reply to this comment

    Blue, too funny!

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    ted Says:Reply to this comment

    Unless you count grow-ops, things aren’t looking too good for BC’s ability to sustain house prices.

    We also had a booming film industry based on the exchange rate making us a bargain, but there’s talk of an upcoming screen actors guild strike that will put a dent in those incomes.

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