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		<title>By: vanguy</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/05/priced-out.html#comment-18243</link>
		<dc:creator>vanguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 13:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> &lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/5rtbkc&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://tinyurl.com/5rtbkc&lt;/a&gt;  
 
Collateral Foreclosure Damage for Condo Owners - NYT 
 
Everybody should read this article regarding the damage that depreciating condo values does to the strata&#039;s financial health.  Really eye opening... &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-18243&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <a href="http://tinyurl.com/5rtbkc" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/5rtbkc</a>  </p>
<p>Collateral Foreclosure Damage for Condo Owners &#8211; NYT</p>
<p>Everybody should read this article regarding the damage that depreciating condo values does to the strata&#039;s financial health.  Really eye opening&#8230;
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		<title>By: Incognito</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/05/priced-out.html#comment-18102</link>
		<dc:creator>Incognito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 07:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Link on american economy home prices etc: 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/14/business/14leonhardt.html?ref=business&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/14/business/14leon...&lt;/a&gt; &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-18102&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Link on american economy home prices etc:</p>
<p>  <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/14/business/14leonhardt.html?ref=business" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/14/business/14leon" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/14/business/14leon</a>&#8230;
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		<title>By: Vansanity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vansanity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 06:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to John&#039;s comment on the front page: BC&#039;s politicians should have provided incentives to companies that were able to produce a finished good from all these raw materials we&#039;re blessed with here. Rather than export raw logs, lets make better than ikea crap, how hard could that be? Of course our products will be more expensive, but hey, there&#039;s no shortage of cash in BC apparently.  
 
Second more controversial idea: legalize marijuana. Here is a $7.5 Billion dollar industry,right now, in BC. This is just through smoking it. Think of tourism for a second and the local economy if this homegrown BC product were opened up and taxed. Also, the other products that would undoubtedly become more popular through hemp. I once watched a program on TV where they were showing hemp fibers used to create a type of plywood and regular lumber that was superior to wood. The beauty of it, most sawmills wouldn&#039;t need to change too much in order to start using it. Same said for pulp form hemp fibers vs. wood chips. They could do it now, but there&#039;s no where near enough being grown. Talk about sustainability. &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-18101&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to John&#039;s comment on the front page: BC&#039;s politicians should have provided incentives to companies that were able to produce a finished good from all these raw materials we&#039;re blessed with here. Rather than export raw logs, lets make better than ikea crap, how hard could that be? Of course our products will be more expensive, but hey, there&#039;s no shortage of cash in BC apparently. </p>
<p>Second more controversial idea: legalize marijuana. Here is a $7.5 Billion dollar industry,right now, in BC. This is just through smoking it. Think of tourism for a second and the local economy if this homegrown BC product were opened up and taxed. Also, the other products that would undoubtedly become more popular through hemp. I once watched a program on TV where they were showing hemp fibers used to create a type of plywood and regular lumber that was superior to wood. The beauty of it, most sawmills wouldn&#039;t need to change too much in order to start using it. Same said for pulp form hemp fibers vs. wood chips. They could do it now, but there&#039;s no where near enough being grown. Talk about sustainability.
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		<title>By: patriotz</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/05/priced-out.html#comment-18100</link>
		<dc:creator>patriotz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 02:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Addendum: I mean they&#039;re not income in an economic sense. What the taxman considers them is another thing. &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-18100&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Addendum: I mean they&#039;re not income in an economic sense. What the taxman considers them is another thing.
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		<title>By: patriotz</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/05/priced-out.html#comment-18099</link>
		<dc:creator>patriotz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 02:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I don&#8217;t know if gains from personal residence flips are included in GDP.&lt;/i&gt; 
 
Capital gains, whether they be from personal residences, investment RE, stocks or whatever aren&#039;t included in GDP because they&#039;re not income. They are capital transactions. &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-18099&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I don&rsquo;t know if gains from personal residence flips are included in GDP.</i></p>
<p>Capital gains, whether they be from personal residences, investment RE, stocks or whatever aren&#039;t included in GDP because they&#039;re not income. They are capital transactions.
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		<title>By: Michael Randallbard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Randallbard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 21:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this weekends best place on Earth is......... 
 
Google Earth Tasmania &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-18091&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this weekends best place on Earth is&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Google Earth Tasmania
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		<title>By: stagnate</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/05/priced-out.html#comment-18090</link>
		<dc:creator>stagnate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 20:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>m: 
the tax reassessment gig is hard to believe, who are they to say someone got too good a deal. makes me wonder if they would consider refunds for people who pay too much or for those whose condo&#039;s decrease in value from the pre-sale. contrary to what peter wall might say, developers do not leave money on the table. &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-18090&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>m:</p>
<p>the tax reassessment gig is hard to believe, who are they to say someone got too good a deal. makes me wonder if they would consider refunds for people who pay too much or for those whose condo&#039;s decrease in value from the pre-sale. contrary to what peter wall might say, developers do not leave money on the table.
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		<title>By: Krrish2</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/05/priced-out.html#comment-18089</link>
		<dc:creator>Krrish2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 20:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Betamax, 
 
I can understand since the boom has begun numbers of realtors are increased as the sales to slide downward lets say 3300 units are selling now you can divide them between number of realtors. 
 
Her office staff need to find another job as sales countinue to go lower from approximately 35,000 units in 2008 to 33,000 units in 2009. 
 
Prices countinue to keep upward trends that&#039;s why i have ask you to clarify your motive if there was no intention behind- second job is a answer. &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-18089&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Betamax,</p>
<p>I can understand since the boom has begun numbers of realtors are increased as the sales to slide downward lets say 3300 units are selling now you can divide them between number of realtors.</p>
<p>Her office staff need to find another job as sales countinue to go lower from approximately 35,000 units in 2008 to 33,000 units in 2009.</p>
<p>Prices countinue to keep upward trends that&#039;s why i have ask you to clarify your motive if there was no intention behind- second job is a answer.
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		<title>By: M-</title>
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		<dc:creator>M-</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 20:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for that Sun article on property tax reassessments, I&#039;m inclined to lean with the tax man on both counts: 
 
1) Leonard Schein isn&#039;t just your average-Joe.  He&#039;s a major local investor, and has been involved in developments, as I remember from when I was a kid.  It wouldn&#039;t surprise me in the slightest if he was one of those inner-circle types who get their choice of the best units in a new development at the best price.  Think of the H&amp;H and Sophia developments where industry insiders had gotten some sweet deals on condos...  One of those sweet-deals wouldn&#039;t be an arms-length transaction, and could be subject to reassessment.  Leonard was hoping that his sweetheart condo deal would be an even better deal by claiming back some of the GST... 
 
2) Family probate.  Probate was done in mid-2007, presumably using the property assessment they received in Jan 2007, which represents the Aug 2006 market value.  They may well have had a realtor make a market assessment on the home in the summer of 2007, but didn&#039;t like the number and stuck with the BCAssessment.  Everything went tickety-boo, and they thought they made out like bandits.  Then this past January they received their new BCAssessment (theoretical value for August 2007), which better-represented the mid-2007 value than the previous year&#039;s assessment.  Guess what?  The tax man is looking out for this.  That family has benefited from the rise in property values; they are much better-off than they would have been if property values hadn&#039;t risen at all, or than they would have been if last year&#039;s assessment was correct.  The poor kids... 
 
I&#039;m happy to see that the CRA is watching out for honest taxpayers, by ensuring that frauds and borderline-frauds don&#039;t get away with it.  All too often we hear of people getting away with tax fraud, be they underreporting rental income or otherwise.  People cheating on their taxes increases the tax burden on honest people. &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-18088&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for that Sun article on property tax reassessments, I&#039;m inclined to lean with the tax man on both counts:</p>
<p>1) Leonard Schein isn&#039;t just your average-Joe.  He&#039;s a major local investor, and has been involved in developments, as I remember from when I was a kid.  It wouldn&#039;t surprise me in the slightest if he was one of those inner-circle types who get their choice of the best units in a new development at the best price.  Think of the H&amp;H and Sophia developments where industry insiders had gotten some sweet deals on condos&#8230;  One of those sweet-deals wouldn&#039;t be an arms-length transaction, and could be subject to reassessment.  Leonard was hoping that his sweetheart condo deal would be an even better deal by claiming back some of the GST&#8230;</p>
<p>2) Family probate.  Probate was done in mid-2007, presumably using the property assessment they received in Jan 2007, which represents the Aug 2006 market value.  They may well have had a realtor make a market assessment on the home in the summer of 2007, but didn&#039;t like the number and stuck with the BCAssessment.  Everything went tickety-boo, and they thought they made out like bandits.  Then this past January they received their new BCAssessment (theoretical value for August 2007), which better-represented the mid-2007 value than the previous year&#039;s assessment.  Guess what?  The tax man is looking out for this.  That family has benefited from the rise in property values; they are much better-off than they would have been if property values hadn&#039;t risen at all, or than they would have been if last year&#039;s assessment was correct.  The poor kids&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#039;m happy to see that the CRA is watching out for honest taxpayers, by ensuring that frauds and borderline-frauds don&#039;t get away with it.  All too often we hear of people getting away with tax fraud, be they underreporting rental income or otherwise.  People cheating on their taxes increases the tax burden on honest people.
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		<title>By: betamax</title>
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		<dc:creator>betamax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 20:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;She wasn&#8217;t expecting it? Really? Is she illiterate or simply stupid?&quot; 
 
She can read &amp; write, and is reasonably intelligent. The considerable success she&#039;s had in the past few years have blinded her to other possibilities.  
 
Krisssh or whoever -- it&#039;s not just her. Everyone in her office, including several other previously successful realtors, are doing lousy business right now. &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-18087&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;She wasn&rsquo;t expecting it? Really? Is she illiterate or simply stupid?&quot;</p>
<p>She can read &amp; write, and is reasonably intelligent. The considerable success she&#039;s had in the past few years have blinded her to other possibilities. </p>
<p>Krisssh or whoever &#8212; it&#039;s not just her. Everyone in her office, including several other previously successful realtors, are doing lousy business right now.
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