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		<title>By: Drachen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drachen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Gadwin&lt;/b&gt; 
 
A lot of it will expire.  Most people take out a three month contract with their selling agent.  Often after those three months are up they will drop the listing if they don&#039;t have pressure on them to make the sale (re-locating for a job, death, or inability to pay the mortgage). &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-23484&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>A lot of it will expire.  Most people take out a three month contract with their selling agent.  Often after those three months are up they will drop the listing if they don&#039;t have pressure on them to make the sale (re-locating for a job, death, or inability to pay the mortgage).
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		<title>By: Gadwin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gadwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 00:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who is going to buy up all that inventory?  That&#039;s 20K inventory that needs to be absorbed.  And the supply is growing every day. &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-23462&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is going to buy up all that inventory?  That&#039;s 20K inventory that needs to be absorbed.  And the supply is growing every day.
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		<title>By: patriotz</title>
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		<dc:creator>patriotz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 00:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well another leg on the stool has been sawn off. How long can it remain standing up? 
 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080727.wtourismwoes0727/BNStory/National/home?cid=al_gam_mostview&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&#039;Perfect storm&#039; hits Canada&#039;s tourism market&lt;/a&gt; 
 
&quot;TORONTO &#8212; A summer of record oil prices, a strong Canadian dollar and a slowing world economy are creating a &#8220;perfect storm&#8221; that&#039;s putting a dent in Canada&#039;s tourism market this summer, industry officials say. 
 
Canada&#039;s three major tourist destinations &#8212; Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver &#8212; all reported noticeable declines in visitors in July, and experts say it&#039;s because of a myriad of factors.&quot; &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-23461&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well another leg on the stool has been sawn off. How long can it remain standing up?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080727.wtourismwoes0727/BNStory/National/home?cid=al_gam_mostview" rel="nofollow">&#039;Perfect storm&#039; hits Canada&#039;s tourism market</a></p>
<p>&quot;TORONTO &mdash; A summer of record oil prices, a strong Canadian dollar and a slowing world economy are creating a &ldquo;perfect storm&rdquo; that&#039;s putting a dent in Canada&#039;s tourism market this summer, industry officials say.</p>
<p>Canada&#039;s three major tourist destinations &mdash; Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver &mdash; all reported noticeable declines in visitors in July, and experts say it&#039;s because of a myriad of factors.&quot;
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		<title>By: patriotz</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/07/friday-free-for-all-31.html#comment-23460</link>
		<dc:creator>patriotz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/28/opinion/28krugman.html?_r=1&amp;hp&amp;oref=slogin&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Another Temporary Fix&lt;/a&gt; 
 
&quot;Before I get to that, let&#8217;s be clear about one thing: Even if this bill succeeds in its aims, heading off a severe credit contraction and helping some homeowners avoid foreclosure, it won&#8217;t change the fact that this decade&#8217;s double bubble, in housing prices and loose lending, has been a disaster for millions of Americans. 
 
After all, the new bill will, at best, make a modest dent in the rate of foreclosures. And it does nothing at all for those who aren&#8217;t in danger of losing their houses but are seeing much if not all of their net worth wiped out &#8212; a particularly bitter blow to Americans who are nearing retirement, or thought they were until they discovered that they couldn&#8217;t afford to stop working.&quot; 
 
I&#039;m rather confused about the last sentence. Krugman has correctly called the housing bubble since 2005 - which means that the price of housing is inflated and must revert to fundamental valuation. And yet he talks as though there is something the government can do to stop that from happening. 
 
A house is only worth what you can rent it out for, and people had better get that through their heads. Bubble valuations were an illusion. &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-23460&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/28/opinion/28krugman.html?_r=1&amp;hp&amp;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">Another Temporary Fix</a></p>
<p>&quot;Before I get to that, let&rsquo;s be clear about one thing: Even if this bill succeeds in its aims, heading off a severe credit contraction and helping some homeowners avoid foreclosure, it won&rsquo;t change the fact that this decade&rsquo;s double bubble, in housing prices and loose lending, has been a disaster for millions of Americans.</p>
<p>After all, the new bill will, at best, make a modest dent in the rate of foreclosures. And it does nothing at all for those who aren&rsquo;t in danger of losing their houses but are seeing much if not all of their net worth wiped out &mdash; a particularly bitter blow to Americans who are nearing retirement, or thought they were until they discovered that they couldn&rsquo;t afford to stop working.&quot;</p>
<p>I&#039;m rather confused about the last sentence. Krugman has correctly called the housing bubble since 2005 &#8211; which means that the price of housing is inflated and must revert to fundamental valuation. And yet he talks as though there is something the government can do to stop that from happening.</p>
<p>A house is only worth what you can rent it out for, and people had better get that through their heads. Bubble valuations were an illusion.
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and Saskatoon house prices have just started to go down.  50 sales last week, over 1,500 listings.  Prices predicted to go down 10 to 20% over next year.  Buying Saskatoon for investment kind of dumb move. &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-23459&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and Saskatoon house prices have just started to go down.  50 sales last week, over 1,500 listings.  Prices predicted to go down 10 to 20% over next year.  Buying Saskatoon for investment kind of dumb move.
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least Vancouver is still growing.  After a couple years of moderate population growth, apparently Saskatoon has lost 2,000 people as of late.  Over a time when housing prices doubled, and demand went down.  For a much smaller city, Saskatoon has 1,500 existing places for sale on MLS, 400 on one additional private website, and a few hundred more in bedroom communities.  Now more expensive to live in Saskatoon than: Edmonton, Red Deer, Abbotsford, Chilliwack, Regina or anywhere in Manitoba 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix/news/story.html?id=4c0536a2-24b0-40d6-9cc7-e87c286159a9&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix/news/s...&lt;/a&gt; &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-23458&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least Vancouver is still growing.  After a couple years of moderate population growth, apparently Saskatoon has lost 2,000 people as of late.  Over a time when housing prices doubled, and demand went down.  For a much smaller city, Saskatoon has 1,500 existing places for sale on MLS, 400 on one additional private website, and a few hundred more in bedroom communities.  Now more expensive to live in Saskatoon than: Edmonton, Red Deer, Abbotsford, Chilliwack, Regina or anywhere in Manitoba</p>
<p>  <a href="http://www.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix/news/story.html?id=4c0536a2-24b0-40d6-9cc7-e87c286159a9" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix/news/s" rel="nofollow">http://www.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix/news/s</a>&#8230;
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		<title>By: Deliverator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deliverator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Forced relocation, which what this basically is, rarely has the right effects. Solve the problem at the source: provide properly funded housing, drug treatment, and psychiatric care. Other cities have done this with great success.&lt;/i&gt; 
 
Do you honestly think those people in the DTES were borne there? Is there a Vancouver-raised French-speaking population at Main and Hastings I&#039;m not aware of? Those people relocated themselves to the DTES to partake in the, ahem, &#039;culture&#039; there. &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-23457&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Forced relocation, which what this basically is, rarely has the right effects. Solve the problem at the source: provide properly funded housing, drug treatment, and psychiatric care. Other cities have done this with great success.</i></p>
<p>Do you honestly think those people in the DTES were borne there? Is there a Vancouver-raised French-speaking population at Main and Hastings I&#039;m not aware of? Those people relocated themselves to the DTES to partake in the, ahem, &#039;culture&#039; there.
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		<title>By: M-</title>
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		<dc:creator>M-</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 18:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Franko: I presume you&#039;re talking about Westwood Plateau.  The last time I visited there was a month or two ago, and I was blown away at the number of realtor trees.  The number of open house signs on almost every streetcorner is mind-boggling. &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-23441&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Franko: I presume you&#039;re talking about Westwood Plateau.  The last time I visited there was a month or two ago, and I was blown away at the number of realtor trees.  The number of open house signs on almost every streetcorner is mind-boggling.
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		<title>By: Clam Chowder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clam Chowder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know they are a developer they also market and sale their own product instead of relying on an outside company such as Rennie or Mac. Bosa does the same. &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-23438&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know they are a developer they also market and sale their own product instead of relying on an outside company such as Rennie or Mac. Bosa does the same.
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		<title>By: franko</title>
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		<dc:creator>franko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t know what that hillside north of Coqitlam is called, but took a drive through there and could not believe the number of &quot;for sale&quot; signs....I WAS GENUINELY SHOCKED! 
 
WTF is going on there? &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-23437&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#039;t know what that hillside north of Coqitlam is called, but took a drive through there and could not believe the number of &quot;for sale&quot; signs&#8230;.I WAS GENUINELY SHOCKED!</p>
<p>WTF is going on there?
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