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	<title>Comments on: Friday Free-for-all!</title>
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	<description>Bubble? What Bubble?</description>
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		<title>By: Deliverator</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/08/friday-free-for-all-35.html#comment-25549</link>
		<dc:creator>Deliverator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 06:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Believe the quote is real or don&#039;t. I&#039;m done with you.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-25549&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Believe the quote is real or don&#8217;t. I&#8217;m done with you.
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		<title>By: bdk</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/08/friday-free-for-all-35.html#comment-25524</link>
		<dc:creator>bdk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 23:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why reference it if you can&#039;t back it up? Are you astro turfing for Casey?&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-25524&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why reference it if you can&#8217;t back it up? Are you astro turfing for Casey?
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		<title>By: Deliverator</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/08/friday-free-for-all-35.html#comment-25521</link>
		<dc:creator>Deliverator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 23:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.caseyresearch.com/

Pay your money, bdk, and you can see everything I see. You&#039;re fortunate I gave you that little tidbit. Now stfu.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-25521&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.caseyresearch.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.caseyresearch.com/</a></p>
<p>Pay your money, bdk, and you can see everything I see. You&#8217;re fortunate I gave you that little tidbit. Now stfu.
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		<title>By: bdk</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/08/friday-free-for-all-35.html#comment-25518</link>
		<dc:creator>bdk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 22:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the rennie story is as fictitious as the secret casey story that no one else has seen.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-25518&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the rennie story is as fictitious as the secret casey story that no one else has seen.
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		<title>By: Vanguy</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/08/friday-free-for-all-35.html#comment-25517</link>
		<dc:creator>Vanguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Without the link it&#039;s kind of hard to believe Rennie would say those things.  Most of the language sounds like it came off the VC.i boards.

Again, not very plausible.  Although the numbers are right...&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-25517&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without the link it&#8217;s kind of hard to believe Rennie would say those things.  Most of the language sounds like it came off the VC.i boards.</p>
<p>Again, not very plausible.  Although the numbers are right&#8230;
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		<title>By: Deliverator</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/08/friday-free-for-all-35.html#comment-25499</link>
		<dc:creator>Deliverator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bdk - Look up Doug Casey. While he does offer some free commentary, the bulk of his offerings come by way of paid-for subscriptions. Now, I&#039;d like to be able to email the pdf to everybody who reads this blog, but that would be impractical as well as illegal. So, you&#039;re just going to have to trust me on this that he wrote it, or seek confirmation elsewhere.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-25499&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bdk &#8211; Look up Doug Casey. While he does offer some free commentary, the bulk of his offerings come by way of paid-for subscriptions. Now, I&#8217;d like to be able to email the pdf to everybody who reads this blog, but that would be impractical as well as illegal. So, you&#8217;re just going to have to trust me on this that he wrote it, or seek confirmation elsewhere.
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		<title>By: macchiato</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/08/friday-free-for-all-35.html#comment-25498</link>
		<dc:creator>macchiato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 12:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yaletown Sofa, of course, I called this one when I saw them takeover the space the Starbucks was using on Denman St. Pretty obvious. I am looking as for the Sofa So Good hidden on 8th to go under as well, matter of time.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-25498&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yaletown Sofa, of course, I called this one when I saw them takeover the space the Starbucks was using on Denman St. Pretty obvious. I am looking as for the Sofa So Good hidden on 8th to go under as well, matter of time.
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/08/friday-free-for-all-35.html#comment-25494</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 06:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Post the link or else Rennie never said it.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-25494&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Post the link or else Rennie never said it.
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		<title>By: bdk</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/08/friday-free-for-all-35.html#comment-25493</link>
		<dc:creator>bdk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 06:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a quote from a subscription newsletter from Bob Rennie, the link is confidential.

&quot;I simply cannot believe anyone who would be stupid enough to pay $370,000 for a C building downtown which will rent for $1350...
when you subtract strata fees of $200 and the various day to day expenses the buyer is making a return of 2% if he owns the unit outright and pays no property management fees but otherwise it is a loss and there aren&#039;t anymore rich people coming who weren&#039;t here in the 1990&#039;s other than some temporarily overpaid construction workers&quot;



Don&#039;t ask for the link HEY the OLYMPICS! RICH PEOPLE!&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-25493&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a quote from a subscription newsletter from Bob Rennie, the link is confidential.</p>
<p>&#8220;I simply cannot believe anyone who would be stupid enough to pay $370,000 for a C building downtown which will rent for $1350&#8230;<br />
when you subtract strata fees of $200 and the various day to day expenses the buyer is making a return of 2% if he owns the unit outright and pays no property management fees but otherwise it is a loss and there aren&#8217;t anymore rich people coming who weren&#8217;t here in the 1990&#8242;s other than some temporarily overpaid construction workers&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t ask for the link HEY the OLYMPICS! RICH PEOPLE!
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		<title>By: Deliverator</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/08/friday-free-for-all-35.html#comment-25492</link>
		<dc:creator>Deliverator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 05:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would like to post the link to the Casey comment, depresso, but it comes from a subscription newsletter.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-25492&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would like to post the link to the Casey comment, depresso, but it comes from a subscription newsletter.
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		<title>By: jesse</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/08/friday-free-for-all-35.html#comment-25491</link>
		<dc:creator>jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 05:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;&quot;just slimey sales dudes&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Correction: slimy out-of-work sales dudes.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-25491&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;just slimey sales dudes&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Correction: slimy out-of-work sales dudes.
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		<title>By: Vanguy</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/08/friday-free-for-all-35.html#comment-25490</link>
		<dc:creator>Vanguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 05:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the Yaletown sofa story part of the credit crunch or real-estate downturn? Or both?

I&#039;d say that the business was ok but they needed money and couldn&#039;t get any. I always thought they were franchised because some seemed to have much more invested in them then others.  

BTW, I bought a sofa there once, and I felt dirty afterwards, but the product quality seemed good, just slimey sales dudes.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-25490&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the Yaletown sofa story part of the credit crunch or real-estate downturn? Or both?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say that the business was ok but they needed money and couldn&#8217;t get any. I always thought they were franchised because some seemed to have much more invested in them then others.  </p>
<p>BTW, I bought a sofa there once, and I felt dirty afterwards, but the product quality seemed good, just slimey sales dudes.
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		<title>By: JB</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/08/friday-free-for-all-35.html#comment-25486</link>
		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 04:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HSBC says super-rich clients moving into cash

http://www.reuters.com/article/ousiv/idUSL133863120080901&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-25486&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HSBC says super-rich clients moving into cash</p>
<p><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/ousiv/idUSL133863120080901" rel="nofollow">http://www.reuters.com/article.....3120080901</a>
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		<title>By: depresso</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/08/friday-free-for-all-35.html#comment-25485</link>
		<dc:creator>depresso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 02:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deliverator, could you post the URL to the article by Doug Casey?&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-25485&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deliverator, could you post the URL to the article by Doug Casey?
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		<title>By: Vansanity</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/08/friday-free-for-all-35.html#comment-25484</link>
		<dc:creator>Vansanity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 02:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/business/story.html?id=77cfd381-c46f-4f76-9e7c-d672bc3cb2f2&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-25484&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/business/story.html?id=77cfd381-c46f-4f76-9e7c-d672bc3cb2f2" rel="nofollow">http://www.canada.com/vancouve.....72bc3cb2f2</a>
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		<title>By: Vansanity</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/08/friday-free-for-all-35.html#comment-25482</link>
		<dc:creator>Vansanity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 01:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yaletown Sofa closed all stores suddenly? What&#039;s this about?! 

http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/business/story.html?id=77cfd381-c46f-4f76-9e7c-d672bc3cb2f2&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-25482&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yaletown Sofa closed all stores suddenly? What&#8217;s this about?! </p>
<p><a href="http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/business/story.html?id=77cfd381-c46f-4f76-9e7c-d672bc3cb2f2" rel="nofollow">http://www.canada.com/vancouve.....72bc3cb2f2</a>
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		<title>By: Deliverator</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/08/friday-free-for-all-35.html#comment-25480</link>
		<dc:creator>Deliverator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug Casey on Vancouver Real Estate:

&quot;Spain, described above, was one example. Vancouver,B.C., was another, as hundreds of thousands of wealthy orientals moved there, at first just to get a Canadian passport and have a foreign bolthole. And then many stayed because it may be the nicest city in North America. Although, I’ve now got to say, if you have property there, it’s an excellent time to hit the bid.&quot;&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-25480&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug Casey on Vancouver Real Estate:</p>
<p>&#8220;Spain, described above, was one example. Vancouver,B.C., was another, as hundreds of thousands of wealthy orientals moved there, at first just to get a Canadian passport and have a foreign bolthole. And then many stayed because it may be the nicest city in North America. Although, I’ve now got to say, if you have property there, it’s an excellent time to hit the bid.&#8221;
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		<title>By: jesse</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/08/friday-free-for-all-35.html#comment-25479</link>
		<dc:creator>jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;&quot;For those prices I would at least expect a daily cleaning service, wouldn’t you?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;d suggest checking out hotel room rates in Munich during Oktoberfest or another such festival in another city to see an example of what is likely to happen. BTW in Munich there is a network of homestays as well that is brought into service to fill the swell of tourists. I&#039;d expect Vancouver to be the same but won&#039;t be anywhere near as experienced or professional about it.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-25479&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;For those prices I would at least expect a daily cleaning service, wouldn’t you?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;d suggest checking out hotel room rates in Munich during Oktoberfest or another such festival in another city to see an example of what is likely to happen. BTW in Munich there is a network of homestays as well that is brought into service to fill the swell of tourists. I&#8217;d expect Vancouver to be the same but won&#8217;t be anywhere near as experienced or professional about it.
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		<title>By: ellery</title>
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		<dc:creator>ellery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;maybe $200-$300/night for 2 weeks isn’t that unreasonable for some?&quot;

we&#039;ll have to see, but I haven&#039;t seen anything to suggest that our hotels will be so insufficient (especially considering it&#039;s Whistler &amp; Vancouver) that visitors will be pushed to pay so much. For those prices I would at least expect a daily cleaning service, wouldn&#039;t you? I didn&#039;t watch any of the Beijing Olympics, I don&#039;t know anyone who cares all that much about the Olympics (sometimes a specific sport, but not the whole thing).&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-25478&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;maybe $200-$300/night for 2 weeks isn’t that unreasonable for some?&#8221;</p>
<p>we&#8217;ll have to see, but I haven&#8217;t seen anything to suggest that our hotels will be so insufficient (especially considering it&#8217;s Whistler &amp; Vancouver) that visitors will be pushed to pay so much. For those prices I would at least expect a daily cleaning service, wouldn&#8217;t you? I didn&#8217;t watch any of the Beijing Olympics, I don&#8217;t know anyone who cares all that much about the Olympics (sometimes a specific sport, but not the whole thing).
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		<title>By: Keep an Eye on the RE Pimps/Madams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keep an Eye on the RE Pimps/Madams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given the volume of information that is out there, does a reasonably intelligent person conclude?
a)	Maggie is a imbecile
b)	Maggie a liar&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-25477&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the volume of information that is out there, does a reasonably intelligent person conclude?<br />
a)	Maggie is a imbecile<br />
b)	Maggie a liar
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		<title>By: Patiently Waiting</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patiently Waiting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The S&amp;P/TSX closed 471.51 points lower, or 3.4 per cent, to 13,299, as oil fell $5.64 to $109.82. It was the second-biggest one-day point drop of the year, after Jan. 21&#039;s 605-point nosedive.

http://tinyurl.com/5bj6qr&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-25476&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The S&amp;P/TSX closed 471.51 points lower, or 3.4 per cent, to 13,299, as oil fell $5.64 to $109.82. It was the second-biggest one-day point drop of the year, after Jan. 21&#8242;s 605-point nosedive.</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/5bj6qr" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/5bj6qr</a>
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		<title>By: jesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My comment made Maggie Chandler&#039;s cut. Yay!&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-25475&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comment made Maggie Chandler&#8217;s cut. Yay!
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		<title>By: gah</title>
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		<dc:creator>gah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like Maggie finally went through her inbox and posted some comments - but only the bullish ones of course.  

I posted a trollish reply (#2) just to see what she&#039;d say.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-25474&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like Maggie finally went through her inbox and posted some comments &#8211; but only the bullish ones of course.  </p>
<p>I posted a trollish reply (#2) just to see what she&#8217;d say.
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		<title>By: jesse</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;&quot;But how does ‘the market’ see the Olympic effect now?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

It sounds like one of those situations where you &lt;I&gt;could&lt;/i&gt; rent out your flat during the Olympics but you don&#039;t &lt;i&gt;have&lt;/i&gt; to. $50K for Edgemont &quot;Olympic&quot; Village may be silly but maybe $200-$300/night for 2 weeks isn&#039;t that unreasonable for some? There is POTENTIAL one-time income (net expenses and risk) on the table that is available right up to the Olympics. In my estimation it won&#039;t amount to more than a few $K on average and probably lost in the noise in terms of fairly priced valuations. No clue what&#039;s priced in now.

Whistler vacation condos are a different story and probably a better example of the &quot;dividend conundrum&quot; at play, with the added wrench that you need to rent it out or sell or you&#039;ve lost money; impugned rent is crazy expensive.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-25471&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;But how does ‘the market’ see the Olympic effect now?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>It sounds like one of those situations where you <i>could</i> rent out your flat during the Olympics but you don&#8217;t <i>have</i> to. $50K for Edgemont &#8220;Olympic&#8221; Village may be silly but maybe $200-$300/night for 2 weeks isn&#8217;t that unreasonable for some? There is POTENTIAL one-time income (net expenses and risk) on the table that is available right up to the Olympics. In my estimation it won&#8217;t amount to more than a few $K on average and probably lost in the noise in terms of fairly priced valuations. No clue what&#8217;s priced in now.</p>
<p>Whistler vacation condos are a different story and probably a better example of the &#8220;dividend conundrum&#8221; at play, with the added wrench that you need to rent it out or sell or you&#8217;ve lost money; impugned rent is crazy expensive.
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		<title>By: VHB</title>
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		<dc:creator>VHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesse, Rentah: thanks for your thoughts. It is fun to think about. I *truly* wish we had Vancouver put options to buy. I would leverage up every penny I could to go long hard and deep into Van RE puts!!

Rentah: I expect that there is a large chunk of people who a) knew that the Olympics are not going to have a long run positive effect and b) thought they could get out and sell just before the Olympics. I think that these people will indeed start to bail now as things become clear that we are not going to make it to 2010 before things crash.

However, I really think that there is a hard core of people who truly believe in the 2010 hype and will not be disuaded of it until, oh, late 2010 or so. That is when the window for a Van RE bottom will begin to open. I think it is extremely unlikely that things will bottom out before the Olympics because we have to squeeze the last bit of olympic sentiment out of the market first.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-25470&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesse, Rentah: thanks for your thoughts. It is fun to think about. I *truly* wish we had Vancouver put options to buy. I would leverage up every penny I could to go long hard and deep into Van RE puts!!</p>
<p>Rentah: I expect that there is a large chunk of people who a) knew that the Olympics are not going to have a long run positive effect and b) thought they could get out and sell just before the Olympics. I think that these people will indeed start to bail now as things become clear that we are not going to make it to 2010 before things crash.</p>
<p>However, I really think that there is a hard core of people who truly believe in the 2010 hype and will not be disuaded of it until, oh, late 2010 or so. That is when the window for a Van RE bottom will begin to open. I think it is extremely unlikely that things will bottom out before the Olympics because we have to squeeze the last bit of olympic sentiment out of the market first.
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