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		<title>By: Kal</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/08/helmut-and-the-winds-of-change.html#comment-25523</link>
		<dc:creator>Kal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 23:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>north american realestate is likely headed for a crash like in the 80&#039;s because people who need starter homes and come from middle and lower class familys just cant afford them anymore and this creates a surplus of renters. This is why its a major fucking buyers market. Oh and also who cares about the olympics i think people base economcs on this wayyy too much&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-25523&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>north american realestate is likely headed for a crash like in the 80&#8242;s because people who need starter homes and come from middle and lower class familys just cant afford them anymore and this creates a surplus of renters. This is why its a major fucking buyers market. Oh and also who cares about the olympics i think people base economcs on this wayyy too much
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		<title>By: jesse</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/08/helmut-and-the-winds-of-change.html#comment-24926</link>
		<dc:creator>jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;&quot;do you know how the expression “cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey.” came to be?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;d have to be crazier than a sh!thouse rat to NOT know that story. That said, it appears my expression has an &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Stanthorpe-brass-monkey-1942.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;unfortunate unintended interpretation&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-24926&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;do you know how the expression “cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey.” came to be?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;d have to be crazier than a sh!thouse rat to NOT know that story. That said, it appears my expression has an <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Stanthorpe-brass-monkey-1942.jpg" rel="nofollow">unfortunate unintended interpretation</a>.
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		<title>By: Bubble Lad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bubble Lad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bdk - that&#039;s not even counting the underused RE right in the downtown core - walk around a few blocks pretty much anywhere in Vancouver and count the number of parking lots, abandoned muffler repair shops, single story and single use buildings, empty lots, and you can easily see what a pile of crap that argument is.  That&#039;s not even counting the enormous swath of North Vancouver land owned by the Guiness family I presume their keeping off the market to keep prices up.  

It&#039;s not a land problem, it&#039;s a ZONING problem.  And since developers own this town, that&#039;s not going to change any time soon.  There are TONS of options available (including the one you mention) - we just choose not to use them.  Hell, you&#039;ve got Bowen Island sitting 10 minute ferry ride away, but it will never be developed because it&#039;s become Vancouver&#039;s largest gated community.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-24925&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bdk &#8211; that&#8217;s not even counting the underused RE right in the downtown core &#8211; walk around a few blocks pretty much anywhere in Vancouver and count the number of parking lots, abandoned muffler repair shops, single story and single use buildings, empty lots, and you can easily see what a pile of crap that argument is.  That&#8217;s not even counting the enormous swath of North Vancouver land owned by the Guiness family I presume their keeping off the market to keep prices up.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a land problem, it&#8217;s a ZONING problem.  And since developers own this town, that&#8217;s not going to change any time soon.  There are TONS of options available (including the one you mention) &#8211; we just choose not to use them.  Hell, you&#8217;ve got Bowen Island sitting 10 minute ferry ride away, but it will never be developed because it&#8217;s become Vancouver&#8217;s largest gated community.
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		<title>By: betamax</title>
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		<dc:creator>betamax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>from the net (other sites say the same):

&quot;What is the origin of the term &#039;brass monkey&#039;?
	
The story goes that cannonballs used to be stored aboard ship in piles, on a brass frame or tray called a &#039;monkey&#039;. In very cold weather the brass would contract, spilling the cannonballs: hence very cold weather is &#039;cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey&#039;. There are several problems with this story. The first is that the term &#039;monkey&#039; is not otherwise recorded as the name for such an object. The second is that the rate of contraction of brass in cold temperatures is unlikely to be sufficient to cause the reputed effect. The third is that the phrase is actually first recorded as &#039;freeze the tail off a brass monkey&#039;, which removes any essential connection with balls. It therefore seems most likely that the phrase is simply a ribald allusion to the fact that metal figures will become very cold to the touch in cold weather (and some materials will become brittle).&quot;

Aside from all that, the balls were stored flat in the tray, not stacked. Why would anyone stack balls in a pyramid on a ship when any significant pitch would send them rolling every which way? 

From another site:

&quot;Other seafaring monkey business relates to ancient forms of cannon called a brass monkeys, or drakes, or dogs. These were recorded in an inventory published in 1650 - The articles of the rendition of Edenburgh-Castle to the Lord Generall Cromwel:

    &quot;Short Brasse Munkeys alias Dogs.&quot;

Brass drakes/monkeys were referred to in J. Heath&#039;s Flagellum, 1663: &quot;Twenty-eight Brass Drakes called Monkeys&quot; and in The Taking of St. Esprit in Harlech, 1627: &quot;Two drakes upon the half deck, being brass, of sacker bore&quot;.

There&#039;s also a nautical reference from 1822 for the monkey tail which appears in the earliest known version of the phrase. This was a lever that was used to aim a cannon.

It might sound like the work of CANOE (the Committee to Ascribe a Naval Origin to Everything) but, given these citations and the large percentage of references to brass monkeys in nautical contexts, it seems likely that the inanimate object in question was in fact a naval cannon. The &#039;balls&#039; are a recent appendage.&quot;&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-24924&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from the net (other sites say the same):</p>
<p>&#8220;What is the origin of the term &#8216;brass monkey&#8217;?</p>
<p>The story goes that cannonballs used to be stored aboard ship in piles, on a brass frame or tray called a &#8216;monkey&#8217;. In very cold weather the brass would contract, spilling the cannonballs: hence very cold weather is &#8216;cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey&#8217;. There are several problems with this story. The first is that the term &#8216;monkey&#8217; is not otherwise recorded as the name for such an object. The second is that the rate of contraction of brass in cold temperatures is unlikely to be sufficient to cause the reputed effect. The third is that the phrase is actually first recorded as &#8216;freeze the tail off a brass monkey&#8217;, which removes any essential connection with balls. It therefore seems most likely that the phrase is simply a ribald allusion to the fact that metal figures will become very cold to the touch in cold weather (and some materials will become brittle).&#8221;</p>
<p>Aside from all that, the balls were stored flat in the tray, not stacked. Why would anyone stack balls in a pyramid on a ship when any significant pitch would send them rolling every which way? </p>
<p>From another site:</p>
<p>&#8220;Other seafaring monkey business relates to ancient forms of cannon called a brass monkeys, or drakes, or dogs. These were recorded in an inventory published in 1650 &#8211; The articles of the rendition of Edenburgh-Castle to the Lord Generall Cromwel:</p>
<p>    &#8220;Short Brasse Munkeys alias Dogs.&#8221;</p>
<p>Brass drakes/monkeys were referred to in J. Heath&#8217;s Flagellum, 1663: &#8220;Twenty-eight Brass Drakes called Monkeys&#8221; and in The Taking of St. Esprit in Harlech, 1627: &#8220;Two drakes upon the half deck, being brass, of sacker bore&#8221;.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s also a nautical reference from 1822 for the monkey tail which appears in the earliest known version of the phrase. This was a lever that was used to aim a cannon.</p>
<p>It might sound like the work of CANOE (the Committee to Ascribe a Naval Origin to Everything) but, given these citations and the large percentage of references to brass monkeys in nautical contexts, it seems likely that the inanimate object in question was in fact a naval cannon. The &#8216;balls&#8217; are a recent appendage.&#8221;
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		<title>By: Drachen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drachen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Jesse&lt;/b&gt;

&quot;sux brass monkey ballz but at least the ballz don’t freeze off.&quot;

Funny story, do you know how the expression &quot;cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey.&quot; came to be?

On old fighting ships they&#039;d keep the cannon balls in a pyramid, to keep them from rolling away there was a brass plate bolted to the deck with impressions for the balls to sit in.  That plate was called a &#039;monkey&#039; and because of the difference in expansion between the two metals when the ship sailed into very cold weather the monkey would contract more than the iron balls causing the balls to &#039;freeze off&#039;.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-24918&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Jesse</b></p>
<p>&#8220;sux brass monkey ballz but at least the ballz don’t freeze off.&#8221;</p>
<p>Funny story, do you know how the expression &#8220;cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey.&#8221; came to be?</p>
<p>On old fighting ships they&#8217;d keep the cannon balls in a pyramid, to keep them from rolling away there was a brass plate bolted to the deck with impressions for the balls to sit in.  That plate was called a &#8216;monkey&#8217; and because of the difference in expansion between the two metals when the ship sailed into very cold weather the monkey would contract more than the iron balls causing the balls to &#8216;freeze off&#8217;.
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		<title>By: Brittanny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brittanny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 05:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thums up2. You are at the &quot;desparation&quot; point. You are bordering on &quot;panic&quot;. Only &quot;despair&quot; and &quot;acceptance&quot; to go.It can be a long journey, but you will get there.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-24905&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thums up2. You are at the &#8220;desparation&#8221; point. You are bordering on &#8220;panic&#8221;. Only &#8220;despair&#8221; and &#8220;acceptance&#8221; to go.It can be a long journey, but you will get there.
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		<title>By: bdk</title>
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		<dc:creator>bdk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 04:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Satv/Krish
I hate to break it to you but there is plenty of land left in B.C. and they can always re claim land and even then there are enough new condos coming to make prices drop for decades to come.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_reclamation

Here are some of the world class cities that have done so:

Land reclamation is the creation of new land where there was once water. Notable examples in the West include parts of New Orleans; Washington, D.C. (which is partially built on land that was once swamp); Mexico City (which is situated at the former site of Lake Texcoco); Helsinki (of which the major part of the city center is built on reclaimed land); the Cape Town foreshore; the Chicago shoreline; the Manila Bay shoreline; Back Bay, Boston, Massachusetts; Battery Park City, Manhattan; the port of Zeebrugge in Belgium; the polders of the Netherlands; and the Toronto Islands, Leslie Street Spit, and the waterfront in Toronto. In the Far East, Japan, the southern Chinese cities of Hong Kong and Macau, and the city-state of Singapore, where land is in short supply, are also famous for their efforts on land reclamation. One of the earliest and famous project was the Praya Reclamation Scheme, which added 50 to 60 acres of land in 1890 during the second phase of construction. It was one of the most ambitious projects ever taken during the Colonial Hong Kong era.[1] Some 20% of land in the Tokyo Bay area has been reclaimed.[2] Monaco and the British territory of Gibraltar are also expanding due to land reclamation. The city of Rio de Janeiro was largely built on reclaimed land.

Artificial islands are an example of land reclamation. Creating an artificial island is an expensive and risky undertaking. It is often considered in places that are densely populated and flat land is scarce. Kansai International Airport (in Osaka) and Hong Kong International Airport are examples where this process was deemed necessary. The Palm Islands, The World and hotel Burj al-Arab off Dubai in the United Arab Emirates are other examples of artificial islands.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-24904&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Satv/Krish<br />
I hate to break it to you but there is plenty of land left in B.C. and they can always re claim land and even then there are enough new condos coming to make prices drop for decades to come.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_reclamation" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_reclamation</a></p>
<p>Here are some of the world class cities that have done so:</p>
<p>Land reclamation is the creation of new land where there was once water. Notable examples in the West include parts of New Orleans; Washington, D.C. (which is partially built on land that was once swamp); Mexico City (which is situated at the former site of Lake Texcoco); Helsinki (of which the major part of the city center is built on reclaimed land); the Cape Town foreshore; the Chicago shoreline; the Manila Bay shoreline; Back Bay, Boston, Massachusetts; Battery Park City, Manhattan; the port of Zeebrugge in Belgium; the polders of the Netherlands; and the Toronto Islands, Leslie Street Spit, and the waterfront in Toronto. In the Far East, Japan, the southern Chinese cities of Hong Kong and Macau, and the city-state of Singapore, where land is in short supply, are also famous for their efforts on land reclamation. One of the earliest and famous project was the Praya Reclamation Scheme, which added 50 to 60 acres of land in 1890 during the second phase of construction. It was one of the most ambitious projects ever taken during the Colonial Hong Kong era.[1] Some 20% of land in the Tokyo Bay area has been reclaimed.[2] Monaco and the British territory of Gibraltar are also expanding due to land reclamation. The city of Rio de Janeiro was largely built on reclaimed land.</p>
<p>Artificial islands are an example of land reclamation. Creating an artificial island is an expensive and risky undertaking. It is often considered in places that are densely populated and flat land is scarce. Kansai International Airport (in Osaka) and Hong Kong International Airport are examples where this process was deemed necessary. The Palm Islands, The World and hotel Burj al-Arab off Dubai in the United Arab Emirates are other examples of artificial islands.
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		<title>By: Bubble Lad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bubble Lad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 02:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I lived in Toronto for ten years.  I agree with two things: people there could care less about Vancouver. It&#039;s just not even on the radar.

I don&#039;t hate Toronto.  There&#039;s a lot to recommend it. But the weather is AWFUL.  You can&#039;t go out in the summer because of the ungodly heat and pollution, and winter is pretty much self explanatory.  But Vancouver has plenty about it that blows chunks too.  Neither one should be pointing fingers.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-24903&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lived in Toronto for ten years.  I agree with two things: people there could care less about Vancouver. It&#8217;s just not even on the radar.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t hate Toronto.  There&#8217;s a lot to recommend it. But the weather is AWFUL.  You can&#8217;t go out in the summer because of the ungodly heat and pollution, and winter is pretty much self explanatory.  But Vancouver has plenty about it that blows chunks too.  Neither one should be pointing fingers.
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		<title>By: browntown</title>
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		<dc:creator>browntown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 02:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah nutslaps! i posted on garth turners blog, spread the love to eastern bagslaps!&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-24902&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah nutslaps! i posted on garth turners blog, spread the love to eastern bagslaps!
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		<title>By: VHB</title>
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		<dc:creator>VHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 02:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It seems most people from the west have a hate-on for Toronto.&quot;

Made all the more frustrating by the fact that they don&#039;t care whether BC exists.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-24901&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It seems most people from the west have a hate-on for Toronto.&#8221;</p>
<p>Made all the more frustrating by the fact that they don&#8217;t care whether BC exists.
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		<title>By: ReductiMat</title>
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		<dc:creator>ReductiMat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 02:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems most people from the west have a hate-on for Toronto.  I ain&#039;t no psychologist, but it sounds something like penis-envy to me (whether warranted or not is another topic).

My suggestion?  Get over it people.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-24900&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems most people from the west have a hate-on for Toronto.  I ain&#8217;t no psychologist, but it sounds something like penis-envy to me (whether warranted or not is another topic).</p>
<p>My suggestion?  Get over it people.
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		<title>By: Round up the usual suspects</title>
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		<dc:creator>Round up the usual suspects</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 02:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Helmut  has plenty of company: 

The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

Bill Good, Robyn Adamanche, Don Campbell, Muir, Phil Soper, Carol Frketich
Rudy Nielsen , Ozzie Jurock,&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-24899&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Helmut  has plenty of company: </p>
<p>The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly</p>
<p>Bill Good, Robyn Adamanche, Don Campbell, Muir, Phil Soper, Carol Frketich<br />
Rudy Nielsen , Ozzie Jurock,
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		<title>By: For Sale by Owner/Reduced Price/Open Every Weekend</title>
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		<dc:creator>For Sale by Owner/Reduced Price/Open Every Weekend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.movesmartly.com/2008/08/did-garth-turne.html

Rob, I noticed when you aren&#039;t posting incessantly on your blog, you get onto this one as Satv, Rob A Browntown etc.

Perhaps I am the only one whose made the connection or perhaps the rest of the regulars enjoy the entertainment.

Anyhow check out the above link.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-24898&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>Rob, I noticed when you aren&#8217;t posting incessantly on your blog, you get onto this one as Satv, Rob A Browntown etc.</p>
<p>Perhaps I am the only one whose made the connection or perhaps the rest of the regulars enjoy the entertainment.</p>
<p>Anyhow check out the above link.
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		<title>By: VHB</title>
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		<dc:creator>VHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Do people in Toronto talk about Vancouver as much as Vancouverites talk about Toronto?&quot;

No; almost not at all. People in Toronto only care about New York. Vancouver is not terribly relevant to anything except for vacations.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-24897&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Do people in Toronto talk about Vancouver as much as Vancouverites talk about Toronto?&#8221;</p>
<p>No; almost not at all. People in Toronto only care about New York. Vancouver is not terribly relevant to anything except for vacations.
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		<title>By: browntown</title>
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		<dc:creator>browntown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey buttsnaps! hey rob eh, look in toronto for garth turner and matts sundin! tell garth turner to come with land making machine to vancouver! maybe build up beaches a bit to look like oregan! ha ha&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-24896&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey buttsnaps! hey rob eh, look in toronto for garth turner and matts sundin! tell garth turner to come with land making machine to vancouver! maybe build up beaches a bit to look like oregan! ha ha
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		<title>By: scullboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>scullboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will say this, Rob did manage to move himself into one of the most Yaletown-y areas of TO. Ovecrwded, pverpriced show boxes. 

Weird because Toronto&#039;s a lot cheaper and if you care to look there are some nice units in some rock solid buildings.

Sweet Jesus that&#039;s gonna be cold in Feb. I&#039;d rather live at Yonge and Eglington..... loads going on, nicer little neighborhoods, way less expensive. Or near Kensington for that matter, or Greektown. 

Oh well best of luck Rob. Sept and Oct are really the only 2 acceptable months out that way. Oh and June, sometimes.....&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-24895&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will say this, Rob did manage to move himself into one of the most Yaletown-y areas of TO. Ovecrwded, pverpriced show boxes. </p>
<p>Weird because Toronto&#8217;s a lot cheaper and if you care to look there are some nice units in some rock solid buildings.</p>
<p>Sweet Jesus that&#8217;s gonna be cold in Feb. I&#8217;d rather live at Yonge and Eglington&#8230;.. loads going on, nicer little neighborhoods, way less expensive. Or near Kensington for that matter, or Greektown. </p>
<p>Oh well best of luck Rob. Sept and Oct are really the only 2 acceptable months out that way. Oh and June, sometimes&#8230;..
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		<title>By: jesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;&quot;Do people believe that talking down other cities will make theirs seem better?&quot;&lt;/I&gt;

Yes. It&#039;s worked so far. Just ask John. 

When in Toronto my eyelids did freeze shut. The city has many redeeming qualities, just not enough for those that don&#039;t like frozen eyelids. Like me.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-24894&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Do people believe that talking down other cities will make theirs seem better?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Yes. It&#8217;s worked so far. Just ask John. </p>
<p>When in Toronto my eyelids did freeze shut. The city has many redeeming qualities, just not enough for those that don&#8217;t like frozen eyelids. Like me.
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		<title>By: jules</title>
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		<dc:creator>jules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do people in Toronto talk about Vancouver as much as Vancouverites talk about Toronto?  I hear a lot about Toronto here, even on the nightly news when they were talking about the Monopoly thing the newscaster had a strange attitude about &#039;some city in southern ontario&#039;.  Do people believe that talking down other cities will make theirs seem better?&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-24893&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do people in Toronto talk about Vancouver as much as Vancouverites talk about Toronto?  I hear a lot about Toronto here, even on the nightly news when they were talking about the Monopoly thing the newscaster had a strange attitude about &#8216;some city in southern ontario&#8217;.  Do people believe that talking down other cities will make theirs seem better?
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		<title>By: jesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yongue and Bloor in Feb is no treat either. May not be on the lake but it&#039;s a freaking wind tunnel. Yaletown may have rain and no culture but at least my eyelids don&#039;t freeze shut on my way to work. Vancouver may sux brass monkey ballz but at least the ballz don&#039;t freeze off.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-24892&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yongue and Bloor in Feb is no treat either. May not be on the lake but it&#8217;s a freaking wind tunnel. Yaletown may have rain and no culture but at least my eyelids don&#8217;t freeze shut on my way to work. Vancouver may sux brass monkey ballz but at least the ballz don&#8217;t freeze off.
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		<title>By: jesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;&quot;That area is like Siberia with -30 and gale force winds whipping in off the lake!&quot;&lt;/I&gt;

Can&#039;t beat the view though, no matter which way you face: the airport, Skydome, Gardiner Expressway, or the railway tracks.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-24891&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;That area is like Siberia with -30 and gale force winds whipping in off the lake!&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Can&#8217;t beat the view though, no matter which way you face: the airport, Skydome, Gardiner Expressway, or the railway tracks.
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		<title>By: Bubble Lad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bubble Lad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spadina and Queen&#039;s Quay!  Oh man!  Is Rob A in for a surprise come February!  That area is like Siberia with -30 and gale force winds whipping in off the lake!  You can&#039;t be serious!  Now I&#039;m the one LMAO!&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-24890&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spadina and Queen&#8217;s Quay!  Oh man!  Is Rob A in for a surprise come February!  That area is like Siberia with -30 and gale force winds whipping in off the lake!  You can&#8217;t be serious!  Now I&#8217;m the one LMAO!
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		<title>By: Thums up2</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/08/helmut-and-the-winds-of-change.html#comment-24889</link>
		<dc:creator>Thums up2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VANCOUVER REAL ESTATE NEVER GO DOWN

When economists or experts make predictions or do analysis those are all based on data available to them be it Cameron or Pastrick the only point they have missed is that they are unable to give a shit to cheater who bounce in and out in greed to make money otherwise there is nothing to beat their super vision(please compare the peak btw.81,91,and 2008) no one like to nail down the usuall suspects like domestic idiots or gamblers but as far as it is concern to Vancouver real estate there is no down turn in decades to come.

Majority of cheater can make fool out of some one for six month,a deep bound takes six months to heel but there is no need to panic of temporarily gamblers they will be disappointed because realtors fee is equal to 10% of the total amount but rents are up and coming $5000 / 2br - Furnished Robson &amp; Cambie PostingID: 806480154

&lt;b&gt;I wish i should have bought some condo before Brittanny and Christina but then seniority count by date of birth and when we start our profession as i came late up to there so  i don&#039;t really feel sorry but i am glad that i have bought some condo in Vancouver,B.C while Jesica Simpson bhought in California &quot;oh my god&quot; I am willing to sing
Vancouver,B.C.THE BEST PLACE ON EARTH.&quot;where smart buyers and fool seller will be countinue&quot;-Nelly Furtado
http://www.aolcdn.com/aolr/2-nelly-furtado-400a061107.jpg 

From the sold out sellers i have learned that no body sold in loss so far in conclusion &quot;There is only one way exit to vancouver real estate&quot;.UP,UP,&amp; UP.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-24889&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VANCOUVER REAL ESTATE NEVER GO DOWN</p>
<p>When economists or experts make predictions or do analysis those are all based on data available to them be it Cameron or Pastrick the only point they have missed is that they are unable to give a shit to cheater who bounce in and out in greed to make money otherwise there is nothing to beat their super vision(please compare the peak btw.81,91,and 2008) no one like to nail down the usuall suspects like domestic idiots or gamblers but as far as it is concern to Vancouver real estate there is no down turn in decades to come.</p>
<p>Majority of cheater can make fool out of some one for six month,a deep bound takes six months to heel but there is no need to panic of temporarily gamblers they will be disappointed because realtors fee is equal to 10% of the total amount but rents are up and coming $5000 / 2br &#8211; Furnished Robson &amp; Cambie PostingID: 806480154</p>
<p><b>I wish i should have bought some condo before Brittanny and Christina but then seniority count by date of birth and when we start our profession as i came late up to there so  i don&#8217;t really feel sorry but i am glad that i have bought some condo in Vancouver,B.C while Jesica Simpson bhought in California &#8220;oh my god&#8221; I am willing to sing<br />
Vancouver,B.C.THE BEST PLACE ON EARTH.&#8221;where smart buyers and fool seller will be countinue&#8221;-Nelly Furtado<br />
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<p>From the sold out sellers i have learned that no body sold in loss so far in conclusion &#8220;There is only one way exit to vancouver real estate&#8221;.UP,UP,&amp; UP.
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You all laugh at Rob for moving to Toronto and I can see why. How could someone leave the best place on earth for a dump like Toronto? Anyway I think Rob missed out on some of the best opportunities around. There&#039;s tons of selection out there in the condo market.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-24888&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You all laugh at Rob for moving to Toronto and I can see why. How could someone leave the best place on earth for a dump like Toronto? Anyway I think Rob missed out on some of the best opportunities around. There&#8217;s tons of selection out there in the condo market.
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		<title>By: Drachen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drachen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Lager&lt;/b&gt;

Rob left Vancouver.  He&#039;s in Toronto now.

He took the action with him (I think there&#039;s a lot of wrist movement in his kind of action).&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-24887&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>Rob left Vancouver.  He&#8217;s in Toronto now.</p>
<p>He took the action with him (I think there&#8217;s a lot of wrist movement in his kind of action).
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		<title>By: jesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;&quot;I moved too waterfront at Spadina and Queens Quay.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 

There are some nice condos there and the streetcars are close by. Worse places to be in the scheme of things. Too bad there aren&#039;t too many RE bull/bear feces-flinging blogs out that way ... :(&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-24886&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;I moved too waterfront at Spadina and Queens Quay.&#8221;</i> </p>
<p>There are some nice condos there and the streetcars are close by. Worse places to be in the scheme of things. Too bad there aren&#8217;t too many RE bull/bear feces-flinging blogs out that way &#8230; <img src='http://vancouvercondo.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />
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