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		<title>By: Advocate</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/11/gambling-with-contingency-funds.html#comment-34835</link>
		<dc:creator>Advocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those strata council memebrs who approved money-losing investments contrary to the regulations could be sued personally by all owners to make up the shortfall. &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-34835&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those strata council memebrs who approved money-losing investments contrary to the regulations could be sued personally by all owners to make up the shortfall.
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		<title>By: NO -LYMPICS</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/11/gambling-with-contingency-funds.html#comment-32956</link>
		<dc:creator>NO -LYMPICS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 08:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patriotz: 
 
Re: Olympic sponsorship: 
 
I sent that out as a more generic comment.  
 
Richmond put forward suggestions of a number of funding sources for its Oval. That included sponsorship.   No one knows if they have acquired any.  If they had signed - up private sponsorship, then how much? What if the sponsor pulled out or went broke?  I recall that they were looking for several million dollars in sponsorship to help pay for the $180 Million Oval.  If they haven&#039;t, then how are they paying for it ? Is it digging deeper into City coffers ? Was the City blowing smoke to placate its own citizens ? 
 
If say Coca Cola and other major sponsors is a sponsor for the 2010 games, does any money trickle down to  the local venues ? &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-32956&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patriotz:</p>
<p>Re: Olympic sponsorship:</p>
<p>I sent that out as a more generic comment. </p>
<p>Richmond put forward suggestions of a number of funding sources for its Oval. That included sponsorship.   No one knows if they have acquired any.  If they had signed &#8211; up private sponsorship, then how much? What if the sponsor pulled out or went broke?  I recall that they were looking for several million dollars in sponsorship to help pay for the $180 Million Oval.  If they haven&#039;t, then how are they paying for it ? Is it digging deeper into City coffers ? Was the City blowing smoke to placate its own citizens ?</p>
<p>If say Coca Cola and other major sponsors is a sponsor for the 2010 games, does any money trickle down to  the local venues ?
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		<title>By: patriotz</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/11/gambling-with-contingency-funds.html#comment-32905</link>
		<dc:creator>patriotz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Question: If private sponsors bail&#8230; are the local taxpayers of the given Olympic City obligated to pick up the slack ?&lt;/i&gt; 
 
The Olympics are sponsored by the provincial government, not the city, so all BC taxpayers would take the hit. 
 
An exception is the Olympic village which the CoV got itself on the hook for. I think also Richmond is behind the skating oval there. But those are specific facilities, not the Games themselves. &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-32905&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Question: If private sponsors bail&hellip; are the local taxpayers of the given Olympic City obligated to pick up the slack ?</i></p>
<p>The Olympics are sponsored by the provincial government, not the city, so all BC taxpayers would take the hit.</p>
<p>An exception is the Olympic village which the CoV got itself on the hook for. I think also Richmond is behind the skating oval there. But those are specific facilities, not the Games themselves.
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		<title>By: read on</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/11/gambling-with-contingency-funds.html#comment-32887</link>
		<dc:creator>read on</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scotiabank takes $890M hit 
 
Yeah, our banks are safe as ... umm ..houses... &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-32887&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scotiabank takes $890M hit</p>
<p>Yeah, our banks are safe as &#8230; umm ..houses&#8230;
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		<title>By: Gadwin</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/11/gambling-with-contingency-funds.html#comment-32881</link>
		<dc:creator>Gadwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Squidly77!  Make sure you keep those absurd bulls in check at Alberta Bubble blog, lol &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-32881&quot;&gt;3&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Squidly77!  Make sure you keep those absurd bulls in check at Alberta Bubble blog, lol
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		<title>By: squidly77</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/11/gambling-with-contingency-funds.html#comment-32880</link>
		<dc:creator>squidly77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey vancouverites you have a blog topic concernig your collapsing real estate market @ calculated risk  &lt;a href=&quot;http://calculatedrisk.blogspot.com/2008/11/condo-projects-postponed-in-vancouver.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://calculatedrisk.blogspot.com/2008/11/condo-...&lt;/a&gt; &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-32880&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey vancouverites you have a blog topic concernig your collapsing real estate market @ calculated risk<br />
  <a href="http://calculatedrisk.blogspot.com/2008/11/condo-projects-postponed-in-vancouver.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://calculatedrisk.blogspot.com/2008/11/condo-" rel="nofollow">http://calculatedrisk.blogspot.com/2008/11/condo-</a>&#8230;
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		<title>By: NO -LYMPICS</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/11/gambling-with-contingency-funds.html#comment-32879</link>
		<dc:creator>NO -LYMPICS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>U.S.  Housing Market story... 
 
Very pessimistic  
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081118.WBmarkets20081118142547/WBStory/WBmarkets/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGA...&lt;/a&gt;  
 
Ouch !!! &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-32879&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>U.S.  Housing Market story&#8230;</p>
<p>Very pessimistic </p>
<p>  <a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081118.WBmarkets20081118142547/WBStory/WBmarkets/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGA" rel="nofollow">http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGA</a>&#8230;  </p>
<p>Ouch !!!
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		<title>By: NO -LYMPICS</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2008/11/gambling-with-contingency-funds.html#comment-32877</link>
		<dc:creator>NO -LYMPICS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Olympic sponsors bailing ? 
 
Check out this one ( Johnston and Johnston ) 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/news/story?id=3709139&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/news/story?id=37091...&lt;/a&gt;  
 
Question: If  private sponsors bail... are the local taxpayers of the given Olympic City obligated to pick up the slack ?  
 
I mean, we are talking anticipated or projected revenue streams from these sponsors to help pay for the given Olympics, aren&#039;t we ? &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-32877&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Olympic sponsors bailing ?</p>
<p>Check out this one ( Johnston and Johnston )</p>
<p>  <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/news/story?id=3709139" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/news/story?id=37091" rel="nofollow">http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/news/story?id=37091</a>&#8230;  </p>
<p>Question: If  private sponsors bail&#8230; are the local taxpayers of the given Olympic City obligated to pick up the slack ? </p>
<p>I mean, we are talking anticipated or projected revenue streams from these sponsors to help pay for the given Olympics, aren&#039;t we ?
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		<title>By: Drachen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drachen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Anon 1:46&lt;/b&gt; 
 
&quot;I&#8217;m not sure if this has been mentioned yet but 2 big sponsors of the 2010 olympics are GM Motors and Nortel Networks. It is quite possible that those 2 companies may not be around by the time olympics start.&quot; 
 
That would be a good point if it were true.  Nortel is listed as an &quot;Official Supplier&quot; which is the fourth of four tiers of sponsor, GM Canada is a &quot;National Partner&quot; which is the second tier so maybe GM Canada is a &quot;Big&quot; sponsor, but Nortel is not.  It might mean a hit to the Olympics but it wouldn&#039;t be a big deal if both dropped out, they&#039;d find someone else to fill in. &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-32876&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Anon 1:46</b></p>
<p>&quot;I&rsquo;m not sure if this has been mentioned yet but 2 big sponsors of the 2010 olympics are GM Motors and Nortel Networks. It is quite possible that those 2 companies may not be around by the time olympics start.&quot;</p>
<p>That would be a good point if it were true.  Nortel is listed as an &quot;Official Supplier&quot; which is the fourth of four tiers of sponsor, GM Canada is a &quot;National Partner&quot; which is the second tier so maybe GM Canada is a &quot;Big&quot; sponsor, but Nortel is not.  It might mean a hit to the Olympics but it wouldn&#039;t be a big deal if both dropped out, they&#039;d find someone else to fill in.
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		<title>By: Sanchez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sanchez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right now, Spectrum is a TERRIBLE investment.  You cannot buy today and make money.  You will lose money.  Rental income will not come close to covering the mortgage.  My friend rents there and she tells me she her suite would have to drop 40% in price before it would be reasonable to buy. &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-32875&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right now, Spectrum is a TERRIBLE investment.  You cannot buy today and make money.  You will lose money.  Rental income will not come close to covering the mortgage.  My friend rents there and she tells me she her suite would have to drop 40% in price before it would be reasonable to buy.
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