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		<title>By: Sad for my friend</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sad for my friend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 12:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My friend bought a pre-sale condo in Penticton two years ago for $500K including GST. The deal is completing and it was appraised at $360K only. My friend has to finance at 95% and paying CMHC 7.25% over total mortgage amount (about $25K). He also has to come up with extra $130K ($25K CMHC could be added to mortgage) to finish the deal, which he doesn&#039;t have. He is totally screwed. Any one here lives in Penticton please check the development. I assume many speculators don&#039;t have the extra money needed to close the deal. What will happen to them? &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-34035&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My friend bought a pre-sale condo in Penticton two years ago for $500K including GST. The deal is completing and it was appraised at $360K only. My friend has to finance at 95% and paying CMHC 7.25% over total mortgage amount (about $25K). He also has to come up with extra $130K ($25K CMHC could be added to mortgage) to finish the deal, which he doesn&#039;t have. He is totally screwed. Any one here lives in Penticton please check the development. I assume many speculators don&#039;t have the extra money needed to close the deal. What will happen to them?
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		<title>By: Spectrum lover</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spectrum lover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 17:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Norm King is still at work</p>
<p>$2250 LUXURY FURNISHED CONDO-APARTMENT SPECTACULAR VIEWS! $2250/MONTH CALL: (604) 537-4668</p>
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		<title>By: Kuroame</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kuroame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 09:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I get the feeling you weren&#8217;t around during the late 60&#8217;s and 70&#8217;s - Vietnam War, FLQ, stagflation, wage and price controls, oil embargo, Watergate, Iran hostage crisis, etc.&quot; 
 
No I wasn&#039;t. I also wasn&#039;t around for the great depression and WWII. &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-33934&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;I get the feeling you weren&rsquo;t around during the late 60&rsquo;s and 70&rsquo;s &#8211; Vietnam War, FLQ, stagflation, wage and price controls, oil embargo, Watergate, Iran hostage crisis, etc.&quot;</p>
<p>No I wasn&#039;t. I also wasn&#039;t around for the great depression and WWII.
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		<title>By: Alex Curylo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Curylo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 06:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I get the feeling you weren&#8217;t around during the late 60&#8217;s and 70&#8217;s&quot; 
 
Difference is those weren&#039;t global bad times. This does look like the first global bad time since the 1930s. 
 
&quot;Since the end of the early 80&#8217;s recession we have been spoiled. Well things get wonky every generation or so. But I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;re headed for Mad Max.&quot; 
 
Wee-eeelllll ... you might want to not completely dismiss that possibility. 
 
If global credit markets don&#039;t get sorted out within three months, the commercial farm sector is going to have a hard time getting crops in this spring. 
 
And the one really big difference from 1929 that most people are missing is that back then before mass transportation and refrigeration, virtually all food was produced within a day or two&#039;s horsecart journey to the city. That is most definitely not the case now. 
 
So you really shouldn&#039;t be completely writing off the possibility of food riots coming down the pipe. You *definitely* should not write off the probability they&#039;ll be avoided by insanely hyperinflationary policies and the consequent nationalization and wage and price controls that will make our economy all but indistinguishable from Soviet Russia in shortish order. &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-33924&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;I get the feeling you weren&rsquo;t around during the late 60&rsquo;s and 70&rsquo;s&quot;</p>
<p>Difference is those weren&#039;t global bad times. This does look like the first global bad time since the 1930s.</p>
<p>&quot;Since the end of the early 80&rsquo;s recession we have been spoiled. Well things get wonky every generation or so. But I don&rsquo;t think we&rsquo;re headed for Mad Max.&quot;</p>
<p>Wee-eeelllll &#8230; you might want to not completely dismiss that possibility.</p>
<p>If global credit markets don&#039;t get sorted out within three months, the commercial farm sector is going to have a hard time getting crops in this spring.</p>
<p>And the one really big difference from 1929 that most people are missing is that back then before mass transportation and refrigeration, virtually all food was produced within a day or two&#039;s horsecart journey to the city. That is most definitely not the case now.</p>
<p>So you really shouldn&#039;t be completely writing off the possibility of food riots coming down the pipe. You *definitely* should not write off the probability they&#039;ll be avoided by insanely hyperinflationary policies and the consequent nationalization and wage and price controls that will make our economy all but indistinguishable from Soviet Russia in shortish order.
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		<title>By: richard1</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 03:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/6h9soj&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Whistler Buyer&#039;s Market&lt;/a&gt;

And here i was thinking the olympics guaranteed rising real estate markets.

I find this bit ironic  &quot;He said the United Kingdom tour operators are reporting that their winter sales to all Canadian resorts are down, but they are down the least for Whistler.

McDonald said officials believe that is because of growing awareness of Whistler&#039;s status as co-host of the 2010 Olympics.&quot;

awareness is growing but sales are slipping. he he he.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-33898&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>And here i was thinking the olympics guaranteed rising real estate markets.</p>
<p>I find this bit ironic  &#8220;He said the United Kingdom tour operators are reporting that their winter sales to all Canadian resorts are down, but they are down the least for Whistler.</p>
<p>McDonald said officials believe that is because of growing awareness of Whistler&#8217;s status as co-host of the 2010 Olympics.&#8221;</p>
<p>awareness is growing but sales are slipping. he he he.
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		<title>By: patriotz</title>
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		<dc:creator>patriotz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 22:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Realtors commissions are negotiable, and whether their clients are purchasers or sellers. &lt;/i&gt; 
 
The client of a commissioned salesperson is the seller, &lt;b&gt;only&lt;/b&gt;. A sales commission is an incentive to sell for the highest possible price. You cannot be an agent of the buyer if you are incented to act against the buyer&#039;s interests. 
 
&lt;i&gt;and in all probablity, some kind of war scenario. &lt;/i&gt; 
 
Canada is already in a war scenario. If you&#039;re talking about a war between major powers, it&#039;s not going to happen, for the same reason it hasn&#039;t happened since 1945. 
 
Even the US has decided that it has had enough of the war in Iraq, and people in authority have been saying that the conflict in Afghanistan cannot be settled by military force. &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-33906&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Realtors commissions are negotiable, and whether their clients are purchasers or sellers. </i></p>
<p>The client of a commissioned salesperson is the seller, <b>only</b>. A sales commission is an incentive to sell for the highest possible price. You cannot be an agent of the buyer if you are incented to act against the buyer&#039;s interests.</p>
<p><i>and in all probablity, some kind of war scenario. </i></p>
<p>Canada is already in a war scenario. If you&#039;re talking about a war between major powers, it&#039;s not going to happen, for the same reason it hasn&#039;t happened since 1945.</p>
<p>Even the US has decided that it has had enough of the war in Iraq, and people in authority have been saying that the conflict in Afghanistan cannot be settled by military force.
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		<title>By: Raincouver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raincouver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 21:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;vanguy Says:  
November 27th, 2008 at 5:07 pm  
I guess i&#8217;m the rare bear who is excited about the Olympics.&lt;/b&gt;  
 
Yeah, and you&#039;re going to get even rarer.  A little more than a year from now we (globally) will be in the depths of a depression - and in all probablity, some kind of war scenario.   
 
Yet, there are many Vancouverites that think the entire world will be focused on our 2 week sporting event.  And we will be famous forever. 
 
I knew this would end badly. &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-33904&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>vanguy Says: </p>
<p>November 27th, 2008 at 5:07 pm </p>
<p>I guess i&rsquo;m the rare bear who is excited about the Olympics.</b> </p>
<p>Yeah, and you&#039;re going to get even rarer.  A little more than a year from now we (globally) will be in the depths of a depression &#8211; and in all probablity, some kind of war scenario.  </p>
<p>Yet, there are many Vancouverites that think the entire world will be focused on our 2 week sporting event.  And we will be famous forever.</p>
<p>I knew this would end badly.
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		<title>By: Patiently Waiting</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patiently Waiting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 20:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yes, speaking of 2010. I heard some Whistler hotel spokesthingy say they are going to reduce accommodations costs for 2010 tourists, to ensure they still visit. So much for greedy homoaners who planned to rent closets for a thousand a night. I can&#039;t wait to see the disappointment :O) &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-33901&quot;&gt;3&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yes, speaking of 2010. I heard some Whistler hotel spokesthingy say they are going to reduce accommodations costs for 2010 tourists, to ensure they still visit. So much for greedy homoaners who planned to rent closets for a thousand a night. I can&#039;t wait to see the disappointment :O)
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		<title>By: richard1</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 19:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey,  who registered my name????? oh well. maybe i&#039;ll just pick another name. if you want your name, i guess you&#039;d all better register... &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-33899&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey,  who registered my name????? oh well. maybe i&#039;ll just pick another name. if you want your name, i guess you&#039;d all better register&#8230;
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		<title>By: Ulsterman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ulsterman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 19:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Florida they are auctioning off new condo developments. Look at what you get in some hick town known as West Palm Beach for the kind of money that you would spend in cosmopolitan Surrey Abbotsford for a similar property. 
 
&quot;After a practice round of paddle-raising, bidding began on the first unit, a 1,180-square-foot two-bedroom, two-bathroom condo on the 12th floor with views of downtown West Palm Beach, Clear Lake and the ocean. 
 
&#8220;The last asking price was $511,000, and we have a minimum unbelievable selling price today, and today only, of $190,000,&#8221; Mr. Cullum rattled off in his auctioneer cadence. &#8220;Do I have a $190,000 opening bid? One-ninety! Thank you. Now, let&#8217;s get $200,000.&#8221; 
 
After a flurry of bidding, the apartment sold for $225,000 to a woman with a pink sweater tied around her neck, who ultimately purchased 19 units on behalf of a real estate investment company based in Pittsburgh.&quot; 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/28/greathomesanddestinations/28auctions.html?_r=1&amp;8dpc&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/28/greathomesandde...&lt;/a&gt; &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-33897&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Florida they are auctioning off new condo developments. Look at what you get in some hick town known as West Palm Beach for the kind of money that you would spend in cosmopolitan Surrey Abbotsford for a similar property.</p>
<p>&quot;After a practice round of paddle-raising, bidding began on the first unit, a 1,180-square-foot two-bedroom, two-bathroom condo on the 12th floor with views of downtown West Palm Beach, Clear Lake and the ocean.</p>
<p>&ldquo;The last asking price was $511,000, and we have a minimum unbelievable selling price today, and today only, of $190,000,&rdquo; Mr. Cullum rattled off in his auctioneer cadence. &ldquo;Do I have a $190,000 opening bid? One-ninety! Thank you. Now, let&rsquo;s get $200,000.&rdquo;</p>
<p>After a flurry of bidding, the apartment sold for $225,000 to a woman with a pink sweater tied around her neck, who ultimately purchased 19 units on behalf of a real estate investment company based in Pittsburgh.&quot;</p>
<p>  <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/28/greathomesanddestinations/28auctions.html?_r=1&amp;8dpc" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/28/greathomesandde" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/28/greathomesandde</a>&#8230;
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