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		<title>By: NO -LYMPICS</title>
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		<dc:creator>NO -LYMPICS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 07:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liars Poker: 
 
Excellent Book ! 
 
That cemented my skepticism of how the system really works.  
Shows how history repeats itself and much of the bubble&#039;s genesis &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-32348&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liars Poker:</p>
<p>Excellent Book !</p>
<p>That cemented my skepticism of how the system really works. </p>
<p>Shows how history repeats itself and much of the bubble&#039;s genesis
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		<title>By: babzenuda</title>
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		<dc:creator>babzenuda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 00:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>93: &quot;Your neighbour must have overpaid.&quot; 
 
Ya think?  :-) &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-32322&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>93: &quot;Your neighbour must have overpaid.&quot;</p>
<p>Ya think?  <img src='http://vancouvercondo.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>By: Keeping an Eye on Th</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keeping an Eye on Th</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is true that the provincial government will pay public servants to work for the Olympics, with their salaries not accounted for in the tally of the games&#8217; cost. 
 
 
GORDO, traitor to free enterprise. &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-32307&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is true that the provincial government will pay public servants to work for the Olympics, with their salaries not accounted for in the tally of the games&rsquo; cost.</p>
<p>GORDO, traitor to free enterprise.
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		<title>By: Tom Vu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Vu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The key to making money in real estate is to know how to locate bargain properties.  Bargains are everywhere right now.  To buy you have to be a doer, not a loser.  Vote green for doer and red for loser!!! &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-32306&quot;&gt;-17&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The key to making money in real estate is to know how to locate bargain properties.  Bargains are everywhere right now.  To buy you have to be a doer, not a loser.  Vote green for doer and red for loser!!!
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this cool graph of the tsx from 1981 to 2007 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cbc.ca/news/interactives/map-tsx/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.cbc.ca/news/interactives/map-tsx/&lt;/a&gt; &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-32304&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this cool graph of the tsx from 1981 to 2007</p>
<p>  <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/news/interactives/map-tsx/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbc.ca/news/interactives/map-tsx/</a>
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		<title>By: patriotz</title>
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		<dc:creator>patriotz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Does anyone know if it is true that the Provincial Government will pay pablic servents to volunteer?&lt;/i&gt; 
 
That&#039;s an oxymoron. If they&#039;re paid, they&#039;re not volunteers. 
 
It is true that the provincial government will pay public servants to &lt;b&gt;work&lt;/b&gt; for the Olympics, with their salaries not accounted for in the tally of the games&#039; cost. 
 
Thank you Gordo. &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-32303&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Does anyone know if it is true that the Provincial Government will pay pablic servents to volunteer?</i></p>
<p>That&#039;s an oxymoron. If they&#039;re paid, they&#039;re not volunteers.</p>
<p>It is true that the provincial government will pay public servants to <b>work</b> for the Olympics, with their salaries not accounted for in the tally of the games&#039; cost.</p>
<p>Thank you Gordo.
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		<title>By: bearette</title>
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		<dc:creator>bearette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of Ponzi Schemes (and Ponzi sailed to America on the aptly named S.S. Vancouver, no sh*t)... 
 
This excellent Michael Lewis (of Liar&#039;s Poker fame) article will scare the hide off the craggiest stock market bear. Did me. We ain&#039;t seen nothing yet. One of the best things I&#039;ve read all year in my near ADD-level of house and stock bubble article browsing 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.portfolio.com/news-markets/national-news/portfolio/2008/11/11/The-End-of-Wall-Streets-Boom?print=true&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.portfolio.com/news-markets/national-ne...&lt;/a&gt;  
 
&quot;But he couldn&#8217;t figure out exactly how the rating agencies justified turning BBB loans into AAA-rated bonds. &#8220;I didn&#8217;t understand how they were turning all this garbage into gold,&#8221; he says. He brought some of the bond people from Goldman Sachs, Lehman Brothers, and UBS over for a visit. &#8220;We always asked the same question,&#8221; says Eisman. &#8220;Where are the rating agencies in all of this? And I&#8217;d always get the same reaction. It was a smirk.&#8221; He called Standard &amp; Poor&#8217;s and asked what would happen to default rates if real estate prices fell. The man at S&amp;P couldn&#8217;t say; its model for home prices had no ability to accept a negative number. &#8220;They were just assuming home prices would keep going up,&#8221; Eisman says. &quot; 
 
... &quot;&#8220;You have to understand this,&#8221; he says. &#8220;This was the engine of doom.&#8221; Then he draws a picture of several towers of debt. The first tower is made of the original subprime loans that had been piled together. At the top of this tower is the AAA tranche, just below it the AA tranche, and so on down to the riskiest, the BBB tranche&#8212;the bonds Eisman had shorted. But Wall Street had used these BBB tranches&#8212;the worst of the worst&#8212;to build yet another tower of bonds: a &#8220;particularly egregious&#8221; C.D.O. The reason they did this was that the rating agencies, presented with the pile of bonds backed by dubious loans, would pronounce most of them AAA. These bonds could then be sold to investors&#8212;pension funds, insurance companies&#8212;who were allowed to invest only in highly rated securities. &#8220;I cannot f**king believe this is allowed&#8212;I must have said that a thousand times in the past two years,&#8221; Eisman says. 
 
His dinner companion in Las Vegas ran a fund of about $15 billion and managed C.D.O.&#8217;s backed by the BBB tranche of a mortgage bond, or as Eisman puts it, &#8220;the equivalent of three levels of dog sh*t lower than the original bonds.&#8221; &quot; &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-32302&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of Ponzi Schemes (and Ponzi sailed to America on the aptly named S.S. Vancouver, no sh*t)&#8230;</p>
<p>This excellent Michael Lewis (of Liar&#039;s Poker fame) article will scare the hide off the craggiest stock market bear. Did me. We ain&#039;t seen nothing yet. One of the best things I&#039;ve read all year in my near ADD-level of house and stock bubble article browsing</p>
<p>  <a href="http://www.portfolio.com/news-markets/national-news/portfolio/2008/11/11/The-End-of-Wall-Streets-Boom?print=true" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.portfolio.com/news-markets/national-ne" rel="nofollow">http://www.portfolio.com/news-markets/national-ne</a>&#8230;  </p>
<p>&quot;But he couldn&rsquo;t figure out exactly how the rating agencies justified turning BBB loans into AAA-rated bonds. &ldquo;I didn&rsquo;t understand how they were turning all this garbage into gold,&rdquo; he says. He brought some of the bond people from Goldman Sachs, Lehman Brothers, and UBS over for a visit. &ldquo;We always asked the same question,&rdquo; says Eisman. &ldquo;Where are the rating agencies in all of this? And I&rsquo;d always get the same reaction. It was a smirk.&rdquo; He called Standard &amp; Poor&rsquo;s and asked what would happen to default rates if real estate prices fell. The man at S&amp;P couldn&rsquo;t say; its model for home prices had no ability to accept a negative number. &ldquo;They were just assuming home prices would keep going up,&rdquo; Eisman says. &quot;</p>
<p>&#8230; &quot;&ldquo;You have to understand this,&rdquo; he says. &ldquo;This was the engine of doom.&rdquo; Then he draws a picture of several towers of debt. The first tower is made of the original subprime loans that had been piled together. At the top of this tower is the AAA tranche, just below it the AA tranche, and so on down to the riskiest, the BBB tranche&mdash;the bonds Eisman had shorted. But Wall Street had used these BBB tranches&mdash;the worst of the worst&mdash;to build yet another tower of bonds: a &ldquo;particularly egregious&rdquo; C.D.O. The reason they did this was that the rating agencies, presented with the pile of bonds backed by dubious loans, would pronounce most of them AAA. These bonds could then be sold to investors&mdash;pension funds, insurance companies&mdash;who were allowed to invest only in highly rated securities. &ldquo;I cannot f**king believe this is allowed&mdash;I must have said that a thousand times in the past two years,&rdquo; Eisman says.</p>
<p>His dinner companion in Las Vegas ran a fund of about $15 billion and managed C.D.O.&rsquo;s backed by the BBB tranche of a mortgage bond, or as Eisman puts it, &ldquo;the equivalent of three levels of dog sh*t lower than the original bonds.&rdquo; &quot;
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		<title>By: Nobody!!!!!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nobody!!!!!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Bdk at 105,i forgot to tell you that your answer is located in the handle please double check it. &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-32301&quot;&gt;-10&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Bdk at 105,i forgot to tell you that your answer is located in the handle please double check it.
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		<title>By: Nobody!!!!!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nobody!!!!!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Larry Yatkowsky is an active realtor in Vancouver&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 
Damn another one to join one in Florida,Wrap up your office Yatokowsky or join your brother on the front page in florida. &lt;b&gt;Your Job Yatokowsky your job is going to leave your soul hold it tight.&lt;/b&gt; &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-32300&quot;&gt;-13&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&quot;Larry Yatkowsky is an active realtor in Vancouver&quot;</i></p>
<p>Damn another one to join one in Florida,Wrap up your office Yatokowsky or join your brother on the front page in florida. <b>Your Job Yatokowsky your job is going to leave your soul hold it tight.</b>
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		<title>By: Tom Vu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Vu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never forget what my grandfather told me: There are two kind of people in life: the doer and the loser. Which one are you? &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-32299&quot;&gt;-9&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never forget what my grandfather told me: There are two kind of people in life: the doer and the loser. Which one are you?
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