Illegal immigrants are not responsible for the global financial crisis.

"Our civilization in Europe took a thousand years to develop what we have today, the third world players have been around just as long and have chosen violence, mayhem and filth as they chosen medium, "

This level of ignorance and hatred is disgusting, and does not belong here. Change the subject back to finance now please.

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Was anything I said untrue?

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I could not agree more emphatically. Holy sh*t! I, too, have travelled extensively to 3rd world countries. I saw nothing but people struggling to do their best. How you come to your conclusions conclusions, realpaul, is beyond me, beyond my comprension. It seems some history reading would be helpful here to help gain understanding and context. I'm not kidding. Wow. I have no time to get into it all – and this is not the place. Let's just talk about RE, I suppose. Having said that, may all those of us who witness (or read) intolerence remember to speak out. It's totally unacceptable – as is remaining silent in the face of it.

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this thread has taken a really ugly turn.

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Unknown it is what life threatening "danger" they face returning to Mexico, but whatever, there are THOUSANDS here thanking you for your generous support.

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I have traveled extensively and have come to the conclusion that peoples in the third world are thier own worst enemies. They support absolute corruption as normal, make no attempt to improve thier own societies. Exercise extreme tribal, religious, language , geographic, economic and racist wars and systemic violence upon each other and have generally been the master authors of thier own destruction to the point where they have turned thier own countries, homelands and economies into unlivable toilets which now they are trying to escape.

IMHO western countries should be putting more pressure on these people to clean up thier own act before springing into political correctness action and allowing the overflow of these malcontents into our country to drain our already scarce resources. Imagine a world where tribes weren't murdering each other, where Islam could decide not to raid thier neighbours steal the women and rape the goats over a disagreement over who should have succeeded Mohammed ( peace be to him) 1500 years ago exploding the ritual battles of blood and constant mayhem in the name of tribal devisions be they Sunni or Shiite.

Mexicans need to stay in Mexico and work for a better Mexican economy and corruption, why aren't they marching in the street? Ethiopians and Somali's need to stop killing each other over blood feuds and tribal disputes etc etc. Canada is not a fund raising time out spot for terrorists from India , Sri Lanka or anywhere else for that matter. Canadian church groups should not be allowed to disrespect the CDN immigration system and rename Chinese catholics and Evangelist as religious refugees, the Chinese should be working in China to improve China.

Now the the religious and ethnic wars are over in the Balkans and it's safe to go back, why are all these war displaced refugees still in Canada? We hepled them out, do we have to support them forever, isn't it better to build a better Bosnia, wouldn't that be better for the planet at large?

Political correctness is the problem not the solution. These people need to concentrate on using the aid money they recieve to build schools, flush toilets, roads, hospitals etc etc, instead of cheap russian guns. The bulk of the aid money is stolen and ends up in Swiss banks and French Chateaus, this has been voiced by the British Government.

Our civilization in Europe took a thousand years to develop what we have today, the third world players have been around just as long and have chosen violence, mayhem and filth as they chosen medium, why should we be rescuing these people who have no intrest in helping themselves?

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What is the obligation of any given country to accept these parties , do we have the resources to accept them and what is the impact on the current citizen base(which itself is made up of both immigrant (including past refugees)and native born citizens.

We can never accept every legitimate refugee or any other immigrant. There is a limit to that.

So, where do we draw the line?

IMHO, when times get more diffiult, we have to tighten up and allow less.

If not, then we drag this country down to thel owest common denominator and enter into frontier territory and a race to the bottom.. This conflicts with the very reason why these parties want to come here in the first place. There has to be a happy medium, but regardless can we even afford in these uncertain times the historical levels we have allowed to date?

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"41,900 refugee claims are now pending in Canada. They take at least a year to resolve and much longer if appealed. In 2005 12,000 people made the cut, implying 3 out of 4 refugee claims are bogus."

Lets assume there are 4,200 "refugees" in the lower mainland. Lets further assume 3000 of them are bogus.

Welfare pays around $ 600 per month for a single male. Thats $ 1.8 million per month for the scammers. If the bogus "refugee" appeals their deportation they will be here at very least 2 years. The direct cost of these scammers is now $ 43 million.

All refugees are provided room and board immediately. Those beds are unavailable for Canadian homeless.

But that ain't all. Lets assume 80% of the scammers are working "under the table". Thats 2400 jobs in the lower mainland alone that ARE NOT available for Cannadians. No taxes, no CPP, no UIC, no contributions of any kind to our society. Further, most send the bulk of their earnings home, meaning virtualy nothing accrues to Canada.

Yes, it IS a major problem and one that MUST be addressed. Canadians are an open and giving people but we MUST NOT become a completely generous sucker for those seeking to enrich themselves at taxpayer expense.

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