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		<title>By: DEFAULT NAME</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/04/paying-renters-to-help-sell-your-house.html#comment-47277</link>
		<dc:creator>DEFAULT NAME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 00:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://business.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090501.wconsumers0501/BNStory/Business/home&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Consumer insolvencies to skyrocket: TD&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47277&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<a href="http://business.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090501.wconsumers0501/BNStory/Business/home" rel="nofollow">Consumer insolvencies to skyrocket: TD</a>
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		<title>By: Garth</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/04/paying-renters-to-help-sell-your-house.html#comment-47217</link>
		<dc:creator>Garth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 04:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aleks, thanks for reminding me about the NDP&#039;s policy of practicing sexual and racial discrimination (please don&#039;t call it affirmative action. There is nothing affirmative about it).

I was outraged by their announcement of this policy a year or two ago, and had assumed they had given up on the idea after I stopped hearing about it. I don&#039;t know why it isn&#039;t in the news more. It is indeed offensive, and something that many people would be interested in knowing about.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47217&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aleks, thanks for reminding me about the NDP&#8217;s policy of practicing sexual and racial discrimination (please don&#8217;t call it affirmative action. There is nothing affirmative about it).</p>
<p>I was outraged by their announcement of this policy a year or two ago, and had assumed they had given up on the idea after I stopped hearing about it. I don&#8217;t know why it isn&#8217;t in the news more. It is indeed offensive, and something that many people would be interested in knowing about.
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		<title>By: Boombust</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boombust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 23:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gordon Wilson!? Don&#039;t make me laugh. He&#039;s nothing but a whining hypocrite. The WORST.

Hmm. where is he now? And Judy Tyabji?&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47216&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gordon Wilson!? Don&#8217;t make me laugh. He&#8217;s nothing but a whining hypocrite. The WORST.</p>
<p>Hmm. where is he now? And Judy Tyabji?
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		<title>By: DEFAULT NAME</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/04/paying-renters-to-help-sell-your-house.html#comment-47215</link>
		<dc:creator>DEFAULT NAME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@31

I agree we need a viable third party again the last time there was one was with Gordon Wilson reviving the Liberals in BC during the 91 election. Unfortunately it seems the socreds took control of the party.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47215&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@31</p>
<p>I agree we need a viable third party again the last time there was one was with Gordon Wilson reviving the Liberals in BC during the 91 election. Unfortunately it seems the socreds took control of the party.
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		<title>By: Aleks</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/04/paying-renters-to-help-sell-your-house.html#comment-47214</link>
		<dc:creator>Aleks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;i&gt;I personally see him as the lesser of two evils (for the moment). If the NDP comes in, I guess they will: increase debt to pay for make-work projects for special interests; more debt to pay for big subsidies for forestry and other dead industries while the average person gets nothing; get rid of the carbon tax, and then forget about replacing it with cap-and-trade; drive the few remaining viable industries to Calgary by increasing business taxes.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

The Campbell government has quietly been running up debt to pay for things like the Olypmic Village, the ever-expanding Port Mann bridge and the Cambie skytrain.  I think we &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; getting a similar political spectrum to the US, where there is no financially conservative option, both sides want to steal money from the public to give to their friends; they just have different friends.  Certainly you&#039;re seeing a very &quot;liberal&quot; budget from the federal Conservatives, likely undoing 10 years of budget surplusses by the actual Liberal government in 2 or 3 years.

I expect we&#039;ll see budget deficits in BC no matter who gets elected.  I&#039;m hoping Campbell gets re-elected not because he&#039;s the &quot;lesser evil&quot; because I don&#039;t think that&#039;s true, but because he made this mess and deserves the blame.

As far as what I said about Emmanuel and Dean, don&#039;t confuse the platform with the party.  The poing is that the Democrats won in large part because they quit focusing on other things and started focusing on winning.  They built a huge, scalable ground team to get out the vote, they replaced candidates who had &quot;paid their dues&quot; and &quot;deserved&quot; the nominations with candidates who had a better chance of winning, they focused on candidates who could bring in campaign donations because at some level, the side with the most money wins.

Basically, what I want is a second viable party in BC to keep the SoCred/Liberals honest, rather than the NDP who seem honoured just to be nominated.  I would love a socially liberal, fiscally conservative party, but more than anything I just want a second real party, who play the game as hard as the other side and can kick the bastards out of office when it&#039;s time for a change.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47214&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<i>I personally see him as the lesser of two evils (for the moment). If the NDP comes in, I guess they will: increase debt to pay for make-work projects for special interests; more debt to pay for big subsidies for forestry and other dead industries while the average person gets nothing; get rid of the carbon tax, and then forget about replacing it with cap-and-trade; drive the few remaining viable industries to Calgary by increasing business taxes.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>The Campbell government has quietly been running up debt to pay for things like the Olypmic Village, the ever-expanding Port Mann bridge and the Cambie skytrain.  I think we <i>are</i> getting a similar political spectrum to the US, where there is no financially conservative option, both sides want to steal money from the public to give to their friends; they just have different friends.  Certainly you&#8217;re seeing a very &#8220;liberal&#8221; budget from the federal Conservatives, likely undoing 10 years of budget surplusses by the actual Liberal government in 2 or 3 years.</p>
<p>I expect we&#8217;ll see budget deficits in BC no matter who gets elected.  I&#8217;m hoping Campbell gets re-elected not because he&#8217;s the &#8220;lesser evil&#8221; because I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s true, but because he made this mess and deserves the blame.</p>
<p>As far as what I said about Emmanuel and Dean, don&#8217;t confuse the platform with the party.  The poing is that the Democrats won in large part because they quit focusing on other things and started focusing on winning.  They built a huge, scalable ground team to get out the vote, they replaced candidates who had &#8220;paid their dues&#8221; and &#8220;deserved&#8221; the nominations with candidates who had a better chance of winning, they focused on candidates who could bring in campaign donations because at some level, the side with the most money wins.</p>
<p>Basically, what I want is a second viable party in BC to keep the SoCred/Liberals honest, rather than the NDP who seem honoured just to be nominated.  I would love a socially liberal, fiscally conservative party, but more than anything I just want a second real party, who play the game as hard as the other side and can kick the bastards out of office when it&#8217;s time for a change.
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		<title>By: arbitrage</title>
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		<dc:creator>arbitrage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a tangent....

Thanks for the new term VanBanker &quot;reductive&quot; - I&#039;ve been looking for a term to describe the information lost when describing politics as &quot;left&quot; or &quot;right&quot; etc...

Is it me, or do the american&#039;s/govt/media do this very often? For example: Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac - names born of acronyms. A few levels away from describing what they actually are. A convenience for those who know, but an over simplification for many? It&#039;s like using big words you don&#039;t understand. I suppose it is the responsibility of the reader to find out the meaning of the words.

Echoing VanBanker - seems to lead to the dumbing down of things that shouldn&#039;t be dumbed down.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47212&quot;&gt;3&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a tangent&#8230;.</p>
<p>Thanks for the new term VanBanker &#8220;reductive&#8221; &#8211; I&#8217;ve been looking for a term to describe the information lost when describing politics as &#8220;left&#8221; or &#8220;right&#8221; etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Is it me, or do the american&#8217;s/govt/media do this very often? For example: Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac &#8211; names born of acronyms. A few levels away from describing what they actually are. A convenience for those who know, but an over simplification for many? It&#8217;s like using big words you don&#8217;t understand. I suppose it is the responsibility of the reader to find out the meaning of the words.</p>
<p>Echoing VanBanker &#8211; seems to lead to the dumbing down of things that shouldn&#8217;t be dumbed down.
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		<title>By: depressionwatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>depressionwatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why isn&#039;t the government reporting the most recent numbers instead of trying to  manage the PR with information thats months out of date? What BS.

&quot;There were 25,480 more people collecting employment insurance benefits in British Columbia in February, a 66.8-per-cent increase, than in the same month last year, Statistics Canada reported Tuesday.


That percentage increase is almost twice the national average.

The number of beneficiaries in British Columbia reached 63,700 after an 11.6-per-cent increase in February, Stats Can said. 

The total increase since October 2008 was 39.8 per cent.


The number of Canadians receiving regular employment insurance benefits jumped 7.8 per cent in February from the previous month, Statistics Canada said Tuesday.


EI beneficiaries were up 44,300 during the month, with the biggest increases coming in Alberta, British Columbia, Ontario and Saskatchewan, the federal agency said.


On my calendar it&#039;s almost May, nowhere close to February. If the EI stats were going through the roof at twice the national average in BC in FEB then what is happening now that the layoffs have started to really kick in. Would this information be held back because an election in BC, it seems likely. Why are we behind two months of info? Stinks to me.

http://www.vancouversun.com/Business/beneficiaries+jump+over+year/1542073/story.html&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47211&quot;&gt;3&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why isn&#8217;t the government reporting the most recent numbers instead of trying to  manage the PR with information thats months out of date? What BS.</p>
<p>&#8220;There were 25,480 more people collecting employment insurance benefits in British Columbia in February, a 66.8-per-cent increase, than in the same month last year, Statistics Canada reported Tuesday.</p>
<p>That percentage increase is almost twice the national average.</p>
<p>The number of beneficiaries in British Columbia reached 63,700 after an 11.6-per-cent increase in February, Stats Can said. </p>
<p>The total increase since October 2008 was 39.8 per cent.</p>
<p>The number of Canadians receiving regular employment insurance benefits jumped 7.8 per cent in February from the previous month, Statistics Canada said Tuesday.</p>
<p>EI beneficiaries were up 44,300 during the month, with the biggest increases coming in Alberta, British Columbia, Ontario and Saskatchewan, the federal agency said.</p>
<p>On my calendar it&#8217;s almost May, nowhere close to February. If the EI stats were going through the roof at twice the national average in BC in FEB then what is happening now that the layoffs have started to really kick in. Would this information be held back because an election in BC, it seems likely. Why are we behind two months of info? Stinks to me.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.vancouversun.com/Business/beneficiaries+jump+over+year/1542073/story.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.vancouversun.com/Bu.....story.html</a>
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		<title>By: other ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>other ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>should be by not buy above sorry for bad spelling&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47210&quot;&gt;-1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>should be by not buy above sorry for bad spelling
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		<title>By: other ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>other ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so buy patriotz description left means equality, and just. Right means inequality, injustice, and corruption.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47209&quot;&gt;-1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so buy patriotz description left means equality, and just. Right means inequality, injustice, and corruption.
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		<title>By: VanBanker</title>
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		<dc:creator>VanBanker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;patriotz Says: 

April 28th, 2009 at 10:49 am 

Please. Economically left means trying to promote economic equality. Promoting economic inequality has been the Republicans’ central goal since 1980.

The only people who call the Republicans “economically left” are ideological right wingers who simply use the terms “left” or “socialist” to insult anyone they don’t like and are trying to distance themselves from the Bush administration, which of course most of them enthusiastically supported not long ago. Americans who call themselves left or socialist don’t even use the terms to describe Obama, and justly so. 

“Economically left” is not the same thing as “big government”. You can have big government that promotes economic inequality, i.e. is economically right wing. Combine that with social conservatism and you have a package that is historically known as fascism.&quot;

This is the problem with left/right, it&#039;s so reductive.

Politics is too complicated to be broken down into neat categories. People can have widely different views on each issue, many of which will be contradictory and inconsistent.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47206&quot;&gt;4&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;patriotz Says: </p>
<p>April 28th, 2009 at 10:49 am </p>
<p>Please. Economically left means trying to promote economic equality. Promoting economic inequality has been the Republicans’ central goal since 1980.</p>
<p>The only people who call the Republicans “economically left” are ideological right wingers who simply use the terms “left” or “socialist” to insult anyone they don’t like and are trying to distance themselves from the Bush administration, which of course most of them enthusiastically supported not long ago. Americans who call themselves left or socialist don’t even use the terms to describe Obama, and justly so. </p>
<p>“Economically left” is not the same thing as “big government”. You can have big government that promotes economic inequality, i.e. is economically right wing. Combine that with social conservatism and you have a package that is historically known as fascism.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is the problem with left/right, it&#8217;s so reductive.</p>
<p>Politics is too complicated to be broken down into neat categories. People can have widely different views on each issue, many of which will be contradictory and inconsistent.
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		<title>By: patriotz</title>
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		<dc:creator>patriotz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-47198&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;VanBanker&lt;/a&gt;: 
&lt;i&gt;the Republicans are socially right and economically left;&lt;/i&gt;

Please. Economically left means trying to promote economic equality. Promoting economic inequality has been the Republicans&#039; central goal since 1980.

The only people who call the Republicans &quot;economically left&quot; are ideological right wingers who simply use the terms &quot;left&quot; or &quot;socialist&quot; to insult anyone they don&#039;t like and are trying to distance themselves from the Bush administration, which of course most of them enthusiastically supported not long ago. Americans who call themselves left or socialist don&#039;t even use the terms to describe Obama, and justly so. 

&quot;Economically left&quot; is not the same thing as &quot;big government&quot;. You can have big government that promotes economic inequality, i.e. is economically right wing. Combine that with social conservatism and you have a package that is historically known as fascism.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47205&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="atr_link" href="#comment-47198" rel="nofollow">VanBanker</a>:<br />
<i>the Republicans are socially right and economically left;</i></p>
<p>Please. Economically left means trying to promote economic equality. Promoting economic inequality has been the Republicans&#8217; central goal since 1980.</p>
<p>The only people who call the Republicans &#8220;economically left&#8221; are ideological right wingers who simply use the terms &#8220;left&#8221; or &#8220;socialist&#8221; to insult anyone they don&#8217;t like and are trying to distance themselves from the Bush administration, which of course most of them enthusiastically supported not long ago. Americans who call themselves left or socialist don&#8217;t even use the terms to describe Obama, and justly so. </p>
<p>&#8220;Economically left&#8221; is not the same thing as &#8220;big government&#8221;. You can have big government that promotes economic inequality, i.e. is economically right wing. Combine that with social conservatism and you have a package that is historically known as fascism.
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		<title>By: oracle</title>
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		<dc:creator>oracle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheating

Cheating is an act of lying, deception, fraud, trickery, imposture, or imposition. Cheating characteristically is employed to create an unfair advantage, usually in one&#039;s own interest, and often at the expense of others.[1] Cheating implies the breaking of rules. The term &quot;cheating&quot; is less applicable to the breaking of laws, as illegal activities are referred to by specific legal terminology such as fraud or corruption. Cheating is a primordial economic act: getting more for less, often used when referring to marital infidelity. A person who is guilty of cheating is generally referred to as a cheat (Br. English), 
or a cheater (Am. English).&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47204&quot;&gt;-1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>Cheating is an act of lying, deception, fraud, trickery, imposture, or imposition. Cheating characteristically is employed to create an unfair advantage, usually in one&#8217;s own interest, and often at the expense of others.[1] Cheating implies the breaking of rules. The term &#8220;cheating&#8221; is less applicable to the breaking of laws, as illegal activities are referred to by specific legal terminology such as fraud or corruption. Cheating is a primordial economic act: getting more for less, often used when referring to marital infidelity. A person who is guilty of cheating is generally referred to as a cheat (Br. English),<br />
or a cheater (Am. English).
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		<title>By: VanBanker</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/04/paying-renters-to-help-sell-your-house.html#comment-47203</link>
		<dc:creator>VanBanker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;other ted Says: 
April 28th, 2009 at 10:15 am 
Its sad that people like gordon campbell are seen as right of centre economically. People assume that anyone who sells out to corporate sponsors are talks the talk about supporting business are right wing. As all of us have pointed out the province has not been run differently under him than the NDP. Only difference is he has been worse on a couple of fronts. Chief cheerleader for real estate bubble comes to mind.&quot;

I personally see him as the lesser of two evils (for the moment). If the NDP comes in, I guess they will: increase debt to pay for make-work projects for special interests; more debt to pay for big subsidies for forestry and other dead industries while the average person gets nothing; get rid of the carbon tax, and then forget about replacing it with cap-and-trade; drive the few remaining viable industries to Calgary by increasing business taxes.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47203&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;other ted Says:<br />
April 28th, 2009 at 10:15 am<br />
Its sad that people like gordon campbell are seen as right of centre economically. People assume that anyone who sells out to corporate sponsors are talks the talk about supporting business are right wing. As all of us have pointed out the province has not been run differently under him than the NDP. Only difference is he has been worse on a couple of fronts. Chief cheerleader for real estate bubble comes to mind.&#8221;</p>
<p>I personally see him as the lesser of two evils (for the moment). If the NDP comes in, I guess they will: increase debt to pay for make-work projects for special interests; more debt to pay for big subsidies for forestry and other dead industries while the average person gets nothing; get rid of the carbon tax, and then forget about replacing it with cap-and-trade; drive the few remaining viable industries to Calgary by increasing business taxes.
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		<title>By: VanBanker</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/04/paying-renters-to-help-sell-your-house.html#comment-47202</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Following up on what I just said above: my ideal politician would be economically &quot;right&quot; (I still hate that term) as in small govt, reduce debt, reduce credit, encourage saving, but socially progressive (get religion out of politics, legalize + tax things instead of wasteful policing, etc).&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47202&quot;&gt;4&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Following up on what I just said above: my ideal politician would be economically &#8220;right&#8221; (I still hate that term) as in small govt, reduce debt, reduce credit, encourage saving, but socially progressive (get religion out of politics, legalize + tax things instead of wasteful policing, etc).
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		<title>By: other ted</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its sad that people like gordon campbell are seen as right of centre economically. People assume that anyone who sells out to corporate sponsors are talks the talk about supporting business are right wing. As all of us have pointed out the province has not been run differently under him than the NDP. Only difference is he has been worse on a couple of fronts.  Chief cheerleader for real estate bubble comes to mind.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47201&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its sad that people like gordon campbell are seen as right of centre economically. People assume that anyone who sells out to corporate sponsors are talks the talk about supporting business are right wing. As all of us have pointed out the province has not been run differently under him than the NDP. Only difference is he has been worse on a couple of fronts.  Chief cheerleader for real estate bubble comes to mind.
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		<title>By: realpaul</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/04/paying-renters-to-help-sell-your-house.html#comment-47200</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new graph of the unemployment spike looks like it&#039;s gone hyperbolic, just like the real estate bubble.  I swear the economy of the last 10 years is starting to resemble the economies of the pre 1930&#039;s. Is life going to be a constant boom bust bubble and crash cycle after this? I thought our great leaders had introduced the central bank policy to get some control of this. I guess not. Is the EI spike just another bubble? Rememeber that the EI stats are only the &#039;official&#039; unemployment it does not represent the real unemployment numbers. There are all the contract workers, self employed , returning mommies from maternity leave who don&#039;t qualify etc etc etc. The numbers put out today were from February, and as usual the government is playing fast and loose with the public information. They are showing a total of 640,000 total unemployment (ON EI) but that figure is probably well in excess of that considering the bulk of employment creation has shifted to self employment and contract status.

Good time to buy a condo? Not if you&#039;re wondering who you&#039;re going to sell to when you lose your job and other annoying factors that life can throw at you. Nope, it&#039;s cash for me. I wouldn&#039;t touch this market with a ten foot pole.

The swine flu pandemic and competition from the Seattle and Calif., markets for the film and cruise ship markets are really hotting up as noticed . Those were the good service and tourism jobs which had been holding up the BC economy while the forestry, mining and tech industries died. This factor is one more leg out from under the wobbly stool of the BC econ.

On the tech subject, my contact at Nokia says that ANOTHER round of layoffs is in the works, world wide, Layoff Tracker also indicates the layoffs are still happening en masse. Auto co&#039;s are going to have to lay off huge numbers of additional workers in the shakeout, and that means dealerships and delivery services buisness here in BC are going Titter, woops therres another leg gone. We must be floating on hot air, theres nothing holding this economy together, The only thing left is a spike in taxes that will come sooner than people could have imagined. Wait till the election is over for the bad news.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47200&quot;&gt;11&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new graph of the unemployment spike looks like it&#8217;s gone hyperbolic, just like the real estate bubble.  I swear the economy of the last 10 years is starting to resemble the economies of the pre 1930&#8242;s. Is life going to be a constant boom bust bubble and crash cycle after this? I thought our great leaders had introduced the central bank policy to get some control of this. I guess not. Is the EI spike just another bubble? Rememeber that the EI stats are only the &#8216;official&#8217; unemployment it does not represent the real unemployment numbers. There are all the contract workers, self employed , returning mommies from maternity leave who don&#8217;t qualify etc etc etc. The numbers put out today were from February, and as usual the government is playing fast and loose with the public information. They are showing a total of 640,000 total unemployment (ON EI) but that figure is probably well in excess of that considering the bulk of employment creation has shifted to self employment and contract status.</p>
<p>Good time to buy a condo? Not if you&#8217;re wondering who you&#8217;re going to sell to when you lose your job and other annoying factors that life can throw at you. Nope, it&#8217;s cash for me. I wouldn&#8217;t touch this market with a ten foot pole.</p>
<p>The swine flu pandemic and competition from the Seattle and Calif., markets for the film and cruise ship markets are really hotting up as noticed . Those were the good service and tourism jobs which had been holding up the BC economy while the forestry, mining and tech industries died. This factor is one more leg out from under the wobbly stool of the BC econ.</p>
<p>On the tech subject, my contact at Nokia says that ANOTHER round of layoffs is in the works, world wide, Layoff Tracker also indicates the layoffs are still happening en masse. Auto co&#8217;s are going to have to lay off huge numbers of additional workers in the shakeout, and that means dealerships and delivery services buisness here in BC are going Titter, woops therres another leg gone. We must be floating on hot air, theres nothing holding this economy together, The only thing left is a spike in taxes that will come sooner than people could have imagined. Wait till the election is over for the bad news.
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		<title>By: other ted</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/04/paying-renters-to-help-sell-your-house.html#comment-47199</link>
		<dc:creator>other ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>vanbaker you said it perfectly&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47199&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vanbaker you said it perfectly
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		<title>By: VanBanker</title>
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		<dc:creator>VanBanker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>other ted, right and left by themselves are too limiting as labels. Better to describe someone on two different axis: social and economic. In relative terms (note relative here): the Republicans are socially right and economically left; and the Democrats are left on both accounts.

There are not really any old-school economically &quot;right&quot; politicians in the world anymore that I know of: keep govt small, limited or no debt, keep inflation near zero if possible, etc.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47198&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>other ted, right and left by themselves are too limiting as labels. Better to describe someone on two different axis: social and economic. In relative terms (note relative here): the Republicans are socially right and economically left; and the Democrats are left on both accounts.</p>
<p>There are not really any old-school economically &#8220;right&#8221; politicians in the world anymore that I know of: keep govt small, limited or no debt, keep inflation near zero if possible, etc.
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		<title>By: other ted</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/04/paying-renters-to-help-sell-your-house.html#comment-47197</link>
		<dc:creator>other ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>patriotz i did say they are both at the centre now as they are the same. but I implied left of centre of conventional meaning.  And of the electorate I would not make an assumption either way as more than half doesn&#039;t vote. 

anyways back to real estate  sacramento homes: Look at this link some selling below $25,000. but that won&#039;t happen here. We are the california of Canada right. Oh wait.

http://www.sacbee.com/business/story/1810481.html&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47197&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>patriotz i did say they are both at the centre now as they are the same. but I implied left of centre of conventional meaning.  And of the electorate I would not make an assumption either way as more than half doesn&#8217;t vote. </p>
<p>anyways back to real estate  sacramento homes: Look at this link some selling below $25,000. but that won&#8217;t happen here. We are the california of Canada right. Oh wait.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sacbee.com/business/story/1810481.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.sacbee.com/business/story/1810481.html</a>
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		<title>By: rubberduckie</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/04/paying-renters-to-help-sell-your-house.html#comment-47196</link>
		<dc:creator>rubberduckie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Renting the staging furniture can actually be quite expensive.  It seems like a good idea at the outset, but can add up very quickly.  You price it out roughly for a sofa and some tables, but the little things like silk plants, throw rugs, and art can double your costs.  It&#039;s a great investment if you can sell the place quickly, but the reality in this market is you&#039;re going to rent it for enough months that you could have just bought the stuff outright at the beginning.

And keep in mind two things:
- The photos on their web sites/brochures are their best makeovers to date... your mileage may vary.
- The stuff they bring in looks terrific in photographs, but up close looks cheap, flimsy, tacky.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47196&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Renting the staging furniture can actually be quite expensive.  It seems like a good idea at the outset, but can add up very quickly.  You price it out roughly for a sofa and some tables, but the little things like silk plants, throw rugs, and art can double your costs.  It&#8217;s a great investment if you can sell the place quickly, but the reality in this market is you&#8217;re going to rent it for enough months that you could have just bought the stuff outright at the beginning.</p>
<p>And keep in mind two things:<br />
- The photos on their web sites/brochures are their best makeovers to date&#8230; your mileage may vary.<br />
- The stuff they bring in looks terrific in photographs, but up close looks cheap, flimsy, tacky.
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		<title>By: patriotz</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/04/paying-renters-to-help-sell-your-house.html#comment-47195</link>
		<dc:creator>patriotz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s Lake Wobegone, of course.

And on a lighter note - break out the noisemakers folks. The first US metro has now passed the -50% mark on the Case-Shiller index. That distinction belongs to - surprise - Phoenix, which is now &lt;b&gt;50.8% below the peak in June 2006.&lt;/b&gt; Very close but not quite there is Las Vegas.

http://www2.standardandpoors.com/portal/site/sp/en/us/page.topic/indices_csmahp/0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1,0,0,0,0,0.html&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47195&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s Lake Wobegone, of course.</p>
<p>And on a lighter note &#8211; break out the noisemakers folks. The first US metro has now passed the -50% mark on the Case-Shiller index. That distinction belongs to &#8211; surprise &#8211; Phoenix, which is now <b>50.8% below the peak in June 2006.</b> Very close but not quite there is Las Vegas.</p>
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		<title>By: patriotz</title>
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		<dc:creator>patriotz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-47193&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;other ted&lt;/a&gt;: 
That&#039;s right of your centre, not the centre of the US electorate.

You cannot have two major parties both left of centre, any more than all of the kids in Lake Webegone can be above average.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47194&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="atr_link" href="#comment-47193" rel="nofollow">other ted</a>:<br />
That&#8217;s right of your centre, not the centre of the US electorate.</p>
<p>You cannot have two major parties both left of centre, any more than all of the kids in Lake Webegone can be above average.
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		<title>By: other ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>other ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patriotz both parties have increased the size of government, the debt, the involvement of government in people&#039;s lives for a generation. A real right of center politician would be ron paul.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47193&quot;&gt;3&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patriotz both parties have increased the size of government, the debt, the involvement of government in people&#8217;s lives for a generation. A real right of center politician would be ron paul.
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		<title>By: DEFAULT NAME</title>
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		<dc:creator>DEFAULT NAME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jobless claims jump 7.8%

The number of Canadians receiving regular employment insurance benefits increased by 44,300, with the sharpest increases in Alberta, British Columbia and Ontario, Statistics Canada said. That marks the biggest monthly gain since July 1997. 

In B.C. it jumped 11.6 percent in the month and has risen 39.8 percent since October. 

Now, look around the city and what do you notice? Cranes, and construction hasn&#039;t stopped. This WILL get ugly. Picture Vancouver &amp; BC in 9 months or so once these construction projects are complete, no more cranes in the sky, no more jobs... the end is nigh.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47192&quot;&gt;13&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jobless claims jump 7.8%</p>
<p>The number of Canadians receiving regular employment insurance benefits increased by 44,300, with the sharpest increases in Alberta, British Columbia and Ontario, Statistics Canada said. That marks the biggest monthly gain since July 1997. </p>
<p>In B.C. it jumped 11.6 percent in the month and has risen 39.8 percent since October. </p>
<p>Now, look around the city and what do you notice? Cranes, and construction hasn&#8217;t stopped. This WILL get ugly. Picture Vancouver &amp; BC in 9 months or so once these construction projects are complete, no more cranes in the sky, no more jobs&#8230; the end is nigh.
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		<title>By: patriotz</title>
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		<dc:creator>patriotz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-47188&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;other ted&lt;/a&gt;: 
&lt;i&gt;But both parties have been to the left of centre for over a generation now&lt;/i&gt;

Um, you mean both the Republicans and the Democrats have been left of centre for a generation? How can the only two parties that elect anyone both be left of centre?

What&#039;s your idea of right of centre? David Duke?&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47189&quot;&gt;10&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="atr_link" href="#comment-47188" rel="nofollow">other ted</a>:<br />
<i>But both parties have been to the left of centre for over a generation now</i></p>
<p>Um, you mean both the Republicans and the Democrats have been left of centre for a generation? How can the only two parties that elect anyone both be left of centre?</p>
<p>What&#8217;s your idea of right of centre? David Duke?
<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-47189">10</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p>
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