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		<title>By: Someguy</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/04/regional-growth-strategy-meetings.html#comment-47059</link>
		<dc:creator>Someguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 15:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I appreciate the passionate remarks about Transit and Olympics etc. realpaul, NONE of the projects that you talk about are Metro Vancouver projects.  I understand that you are angry, but blind rage never solved anything.

For a person that claims qualifications in Urban Economics, I would think you would know the difference between the Federal Government, Provincial Government, Regional Government, individual municipalities, Translink, VANOC, and individual developers.  So I would caution you against whining and complaining about every poor government decision and blaming everything on an individual organization that had as much control over the projects you describe as you do.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47059&quot;&gt;4&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I appreciate the passionate remarks about Transit and Olympics etc. realpaul, NONE of the projects that you talk about are Metro Vancouver projects.  I understand that you are angry, but blind rage never solved anything.</p>
<p>For a person that claims qualifications in Urban Economics, I would think you would know the difference between the Federal Government, Provincial Government, Regional Government, individual municipalities, Translink, VANOC, and individual developers.  So I would caution you against whining and complaining about every poor government decision and blaming everything on an individual organization that had as much control over the projects you describe as you do.
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		<title>By: read on</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/04/regional-growth-strategy-meetings.html#comment-47044</link>
		<dc:creator>read on</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 05:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it really is irrational evening, isn&#039;t it?  Typical of the purile level of the argument on this blog (cogent posters such as Patriotz etc aside).&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47044&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it really is irrational evening, isn&#8217;t it?  Typical of the purile level of the argument on this blog (cogent posters such as Patriotz etc aside).
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		<title>By: yaletowngirl</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/04/regional-growth-strategy-meetings.html#comment-47043</link>
		<dc:creator>yaletowngirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 05:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-47039&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;read on&lt;/a&gt;: 

#65 read on, are you really as stupid as you come off. Get your head out of your ass. Are you a girl? Talk about an over sensitive limpo. Were you breastfed until you twelve?

D was right missy, Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Get a life.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47043&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="atr_link" href="#comment-47039" rel="nofollow">read on</a>: </p>
<p>#65 read on, are you really as stupid as you come off. Get your head out of your ass. Are you a girl? Talk about an over sensitive limpo. Were you breastfed until you twelve?</p>
<p>D was right missy, Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Get a life.
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		<title>By: patriotz</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/04/regional-growth-strategy-meetings.html#comment-47042</link>
		<dc:creator>patriotz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 03:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-47040&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;jesse&lt;/a&gt;: 
&lt;i&gt;I think the Libs have indicated boring for the planned line out to UBC.&lt;/i&gt;

Wouldn&#039;t have anything to do with the local MLA would it?

Anyway, I&#039;d be surprised if the line ever gets farther west than Granville. There is nowhere near enough density to support underground rapid transit (compare with Toronto or Montreal), the local residents don&#039;t want increased density, nor do I think most of them want a line in the first place, 

That of course will not prevent the plans from being &quot;announced&quot; as regularly as the Second Coming.

I think both political and economic considerations would favour expansion in Coquitlam, Surrey, and Langley where these negatives do not apply.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47042&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="atr_link" href="#comment-47040" rel="nofollow">jesse</a>:<br />
<i>I think the Libs have indicated boring for the planned line out to UBC.</i></p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t have anything to do with the local MLA would it?</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;d be surprised if the line ever gets farther west than Granville. There is nowhere near enough density to support underground rapid transit (compare with Toronto or Montreal), the local residents don&#8217;t want increased density, nor do I think most of them want a line in the first place, </p>
<p>That of course will not prevent the plans from being &#8220;announced&#8221; as regularly as the Second Coming.</p>
<p>I think both political and economic considerations would favour expansion in Coquitlam, Surrey, and Langley where these negatives do not apply.
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		<title>By: read on</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/04/regional-growth-strategy-meetings.html#comment-47041</link>
		<dc:creator>read on</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 03:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it will be interesting to see whether the UBC line goes ahead given the current turmoil.  On the one hand, cost will be a consideration, but on the other, a great make-work scheme (infrastructure) while contracting costs are lower than boom times.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47041&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it will be interesting to see whether the UBC line goes ahead given the current turmoil.  On the one hand, cost will be a consideration, but on the other, a great make-work scheme (infrastructure) while contracting costs are lower than boom times.
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		<title>By: jesse</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/04/regional-growth-strategy-meetings.html#comment-47040</link>
		<dc:creator>jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 03:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-47036&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;patriotz&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;I&gt;&quot;Or why wasn’t the Arbutus corridor considered? Well those questions pretty well answer themselves.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Regarding Arbutus corridor, Cambie was the better choice anyways, given its proximity to higher density housing and shopping along its path.

Interesting note: cut and cover was tried in Victorian London 150 years ago on the first tube lines and the results were the same as Vancouver&#039;s experience: pissed off residents and years of traffic congestion. London went to a tunnel boring method for most subsequent tube lines. I think the Libs have indicated boring for the planned line out to UBC. What&#039;s better is if the boring equipment and expertise stay local, it could well be subsequent tunneling costs decrease.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47040&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="atr_link" href="#comment-47036" rel="nofollow">patriotz</a>: <i>&#8220;Or why wasn’t the Arbutus corridor considered? Well those questions pretty well answer themselves.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Regarding Arbutus corridor, Cambie was the better choice anyways, given its proximity to higher density housing and shopping along its path.</p>
<p>Interesting note: cut and cover was tried in Victorian London 150 years ago on the first tube lines and the results were the same as Vancouver&#8217;s experience: pissed off residents and years of traffic congestion. London went to a tunnel boring method for most subsequent tube lines. I think the Libs have indicated boring for the planned line out to UBC. What&#8217;s better is if the boring equipment and expertise stay local, it could well be subsequent tunneling costs decrease.
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		<title>By: read on</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/04/regional-growth-strategy-meetings.html#comment-47039</link>
		<dc:creator>read on</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 02:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dear yaletowngirl:

&quot;DIR re # 57 this ‘read on’ twit is obviously a troll. &quot;

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How on earth am I a troll?  Denial makes blanket statements about salary and conditions across ALL fields, and then loses it when someone contradicts him.  In some fields (and only some, as I make no claims as to the general picture of living standards etc), professionals in Canada ARE better off then in the US and the UK.  In MY field (and that is all I am commenting on) things are better in CA than elsewhere.  I&#039;m talking specifics, not generalities.

So, instead of addressing the poorly constructed nature of his/her argument, Denial retreats to the fortress of the ignorant: ad hominem attacks.  Good luck with that.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47039&quot;&gt;-4&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear yaletowngirl:</p>
<p>&#8220;DIR re # 57 this ‘read on’ twit is obviously a troll. &#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>How on earth am I a troll?  Denial makes blanket statements about salary and conditions across ALL fields, and then loses it when someone contradicts him.  In some fields (and only some, as I make no claims as to the general picture of living standards etc), professionals in Canada ARE better off then in the US and the UK.  In MY field (and that is all I am commenting on) things are better in CA than elsewhere.  I&#8217;m talking specifics, not generalities.</p>
<p>So, instead of addressing the poorly constructed nature of his/her argument, Denial retreats to the fortress of the ignorant: ad hominem attacks.  Good luck with that.
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		<title>By: the source</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/04/regional-growth-strategy-meetings.html#comment-47038</link>
		<dc:creator>the source</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 01:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skytrain is like any real estate investment, inflation/population growth/currency debasement make it a good call. Ten years from now the millenium line cost will look like chump change. The source knows these things.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47038&quot;&gt;-5&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skytrain is like any real estate investment, inflation/population growth/currency debasement make it a good call. Ten years from now the millenium line cost will look like chump change. The source knows these things.
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		<title>By: tragicspin</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/04/regional-growth-strategy-meetings.html#comment-47037</link>
		<dc:creator>tragicspin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 01:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has to be the most irresposible comment from a banker that I&#039;ve ever heard,

&quot;&quot;This is a good thing for the home-buying market,&quot; John Turner, director of mortgages for BMO Financial Group, said in a conference call.

For example, Turner said, the prime-rate cut brought the rate on BMO&#039;s five-year variable-rate mortgage to 3.05 per cent from 3.3 per cent, which would reduce payments on a $200,000 mortgage by $26 a month.

While it doesn&#039;t sound like a lot, Turner said the reduction of rates &quot;brings more consumers into the market who likely may not have qualified before.&quot;


Wait just a freaking minute. If a &#039;buyer&#039; is $26 dollars away from qualifying for a mortgage ( or not) is it a good idea to try and shoehorn the poor smhuck into a deathgrip ( latin for mortgage) at the lowest intrest rate in history. Rates can only go up, so why are they pimping real estate to people that really CAN&#039;T afford it if they are going to have to take it away in five years anyway when rates normalize and that Yahooooo !!!!! low intrest rate has doubled. Think about it. Someone who is barely qualified now is probably at the bottom of the income ladder has no way of increasing his income at the same rate as inflation, so he&#039;s guaranteed a screwing when rates go up.

Are his friendly helpers at the realwhore office and bankster pimp considering the strata fees, increased property taxes, food price inflation ( $26 bucks don&#039;t go far) , utilities increase of 13%, transpo (up), Nah I didn&#039;t think so. A pimp doesn&#039;t usually guarantee the health of the john after the screwing.

http://www.househunting.ca/buying-homes/story.html?id=03aaf0cf-2e42-47d3-b53d-17eabbcb9205&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47037&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has to be the most irresposible comment from a banker that I&#8217;ve ever heard,</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;This is a good thing for the home-buying market,&#8221; John Turner, director of mortgages for BMO Financial Group, said in a conference call.</p>
<p>For example, Turner said, the prime-rate cut brought the rate on BMO&#8217;s five-year variable-rate mortgage to 3.05 per cent from 3.3 per cent, which would reduce payments on a $200,000 mortgage by $26 a month.</p>
<p>While it doesn&#8217;t sound like a lot, Turner said the reduction of rates &#8220;brings more consumers into the market who likely may not have qualified before.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wait just a freaking minute. If a &#8216;buyer&#8217; is $26 dollars away from qualifying for a mortgage ( or not) is it a good idea to try and shoehorn the poor smhuck into a deathgrip ( latin for mortgage) at the lowest intrest rate in history. Rates can only go up, so why are they pimping real estate to people that really CAN&#8217;T afford it if they are going to have to take it away in five years anyway when rates normalize and that Yahooooo !!!!! low intrest rate has doubled. Think about it. Someone who is barely qualified now is probably at the bottom of the income ladder has no way of increasing his income at the same rate as inflation, so he&#8217;s guaranteed a screwing when rates go up.</p>
<p>Are his friendly helpers at the realwhore office and bankster pimp considering the strata fees, increased property taxes, food price inflation ( $26 bucks don&#8217;t go far) , utilities increase of 13%, transpo (up), Nah I didn&#8217;t think so. A pimp doesn&#8217;t usually guarantee the health of the john after the screwing.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.househunting.ca/buying-homes/story.html?id=03aaf0cf-2e42-47d3-b53d-17eabbcb9205" rel="nofollow">http://www.househunting.ca/buy.....eabbcb9205</a>
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		<title>By: patriotz</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/04/regional-growth-strategy-meetings.html#comment-47036</link>
		<dc:creator>patriotz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 01:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-47017&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dave&lt;/a&gt;: 
&lt;i&gt;RAV was studied to death. We needed it. Opposing it based on the project structure was a disservice to all in the Lower Mainland.&lt;/i&gt;

How about opposing it because it is simply too expensive and the ridership is unlikely to meet projections? How come an elevated line was OK for East Van and Burnaby but RAV had to go underground all the way to Marine Drive? Or why wasn&#039;t the Arbutus corridor considered? Well those questions pretty well answer themselves.

If the ridership does not meet projections, local taxpayers are 100% responsible for meeting the shortfall. That means property tax increases and/or transit service cuts. Everyone likes big-ticket projects, until they find out who&#039;s going to pay for them - themselves.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47036&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="atr_link" href="#comment-47017" rel="nofollow">Dave</a>:<br />
<i>RAV was studied to death. We needed it. Opposing it based on the project structure was a disservice to all in the Lower Mainland.</i></p>
<p>How about opposing it because it is simply too expensive and the ridership is unlikely to meet projections? How come an elevated line was OK for East Van and Burnaby but RAV had to go underground all the way to Marine Drive? Or why wasn&#8217;t the Arbutus corridor considered? Well those questions pretty well answer themselves.</p>
<p>If the ridership does not meet projections, local taxpayers are 100% responsible for meeting the shortfall. That means property tax increases and/or transit service cuts. Everyone likes big-ticket projects, until they find out who&#8217;s going to pay for them &#8211; themselves.
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		<title>By: factcracker</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/04/regional-growth-strategy-meetings.html#comment-47035</link>
		<dc:creator>factcracker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 01:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-47033&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;punface&lt;/a&gt;: 

#59 punface, just curious, which systems in Europe are you referring to? I too have travelled extensively in Europe, so I would like to hear about your experiances with the transpo systems compared to here. I disagree with you but I&#039;m willing to listen to what causes you to have such a disparate opinion.

PS, great rants D, keep the trolls in thier place, we get some real losers trying to defend the main stream message of bullshit. It&#039;s either psychois, denial or desperation.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47035&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="atr_link" href="#comment-47033" rel="nofollow">punface</a>: </p>
<p>#59 punface, just curious, which systems in Europe are you referring to? I too have travelled extensively in Europe, so I would like to hear about your experiances with the transpo systems compared to here. I disagree with you but I&#8217;m willing to listen to what causes you to have such a disparate opinion.</p>
<p>PS, great rants D, keep the trolls in thier place, we get some real losers trying to defend the main stream message of bullshit. It&#8217;s either psychois, denial or desperation.
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		<title>By: Denialisrampant</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/04/regional-growth-strategy-meetings.html#comment-47034</link>
		<dc:creator>Denialisrampant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 01:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-47031&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;read on&lt;/a&gt;: 

Thanks yaletowngirl, but I can handle this fool

#57 read on , you;re obviously a wannabe baiter a troll and a fucking narcissistic dipshit of the lowest order. Do you think anyone here is your mommy, to pat your hurt little bum bum when the the bid bag blog world tells you to put up or shut up? OK READ On, Wahhhhhhh Wahhhhhhhh Wahhhhhh, is that better for you? Did you have a good cry? Wahhhhhhhhh. You misread the context of my comment twice and you don&#039;t have the guts or the intelligence to back up your claim and now your smacky little bum is sore and you&#039;re trying to retaliate with a hissy fit . Well fuck you newbie, no one here is your Mommy. Read my comment again, use a dictionary if you have to. Put your proof up for scrutiny or suck heiny like the wimpy troll that you are.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47034&quot;&gt;-4&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="atr_link" href="#comment-47031" rel="nofollow">read on</a>: </p>
<p>Thanks yaletowngirl, but I can handle this fool</p>
<p>#57 read on , you;re obviously a wannabe baiter a troll and a fucking narcissistic dipshit of the lowest order. Do you think anyone here is your mommy, to pat your hurt little bum bum when the the bid bag blog world tells you to put up or shut up? OK READ On, Wahhhhhhh Wahhhhhhhh Wahhhhhh, is that better for you? Did you have a good cry? Wahhhhhhhhh. You misread the context of my comment twice and you don&#8217;t have the guts or the intelligence to back up your claim and now your smacky little bum is sore and you&#8217;re trying to retaliate with a hissy fit . Well fuck you newbie, no one here is your Mommy. Read my comment again, use a dictionary if you have to. Put your proof up for scrutiny or suck heiny like the wimpy troll that you are.
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		<title>By: punface</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/04/regional-growth-strategy-meetings.html#comment-47033</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 01:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My guess is that those who are complaining about the Skytrain don&#039;t take it very often. I think it is a great system, especially for a city of our size and in North America. It is also on-par with anything I&#039;ve seen in a city of our size elsewhere in the world (mostly Europe.)&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47033&quot;&gt;5&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My guess is that those who are complaining about the Skytrain don&#8217;t take it very often. I think it is a great system, especially for a city of our size and in North America. It is also on-par with anything I&#8217;ve seen in a city of our size elsewhere in the world (mostly Europe.)
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		<title>By: yaletowngirl</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/04/regional-growth-strategy-meetings.html#comment-47032</link>
		<dc:creator>yaletowngirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 00:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DIR re # 57 this &#039;read on&#039; twit is obviously a troll. I get the point you&#039;re making. We have had a comparable lower standard of living in Canada for decades. It sucks. I&#039;ve always hated the fact that we have to offer Canada on sale to foriegn buisness because we can&#039;t compete unit for unit according to the government. It&#039;s demeaning.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47032&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DIR re # 57 this &#8216;read on&#8217; twit is obviously a troll. I get the point you&#8217;re making. We have had a comparable lower standard of living in Canada for decades. It sucks. I&#8217;ve always hated the fact that we have to offer Canada on sale to foriegn buisness because we can&#8217;t compete unit for unit according to the government. It&#8217;s demeaning.
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		<title>By: read on</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/04/regional-growth-strategy-meetings.html#comment-47031</link>
		<dc:creator>read on</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 23:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dear denial:

&quot;he fact is that you are paid lower on average and have a lower standard of living &quot;

and 

&quot;Again, you missed the point DOOFUS. THE CANADIAN STANDARD OF LIVING is lower. Who gives a fuck about you?&quot;

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Dear denial retard - when you make statements such as &quot;you are paid lower on average&quot; when replying to me, you are addressing ME.  Hence my point is entirely valid.  Please learn to construct an argument using general terms if you wish to make a general argument.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47031&quot;&gt;-2&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear denial:</p>
<p>&#8220;he fact is that you are paid lower on average and have a lower standard of living &#8221;</p>
<p>and </p>
<p>&#8220;Again, you missed the point DOOFUS. THE CANADIAN STANDARD OF LIVING is lower. Who gives a fuck about you?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Dear denial retard &#8211; when you make statements such as &#8220;you are paid lower on average&#8221; when replying to me, you are addressing ME.  Hence my point is entirely valid.  Please learn to construct an argument using general terms if you wish to make a general argument.
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		<title>By: shitsinthefan</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/04/regional-growth-strategy-meetings.html#comment-47030</link>
		<dc:creator>shitsinthefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 22:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bad GM news being kept out of the CDN papers, why? Has the BOC news been so bad that the papers have been ordered to cool it? We&#039;ve heard that the CAW and GM are negotiating. It may not matter if all the plants are closed anyway. What&#039;s up?

DETROIT — Thousands of GM workers could learn as early as Thursday that they will be idle for up to nine weeks this summer as the automaker&#039;s plants stop making all but its most popular cars and trucks.
The move is a result of slumping sales and growing inventories of unsold vehicles, but some analysts and dealers fear the plant closings could further scare car buyers already made nervous by talk of a GM bankruptcy.

General Motors Corp. is planning to temporarily close most of its U.S. factories for up to nine weeks, three people briefed on the plan said Wednesday. The exact dates of the closures are not known, but the people said they will occur around the normal two-week shutdown in July when changes are made from one model year to the next. None of the people wanted to be identified because workers have not yet been told of the shutdowns.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bad GM news being kept out of the CDN papers, why? Has the BOC news been so bad that the papers have been ordered to cool it? We&#8217;ve heard that the CAW and GM are negotiating. It may not matter if all the plants are closed anyway. What&#8217;s up?</p>
<p>DETROIT — Thousands of GM workers could learn as early as Thursday that they will be idle for up to nine weeks this summer as the automaker&#8217;s plants stop making all but its most popular cars and trucks.<br />
The move is a result of slumping sales and growing inventories of unsold vehicles, but some analysts and dealers fear the plant closings could further scare car buyers already made nervous by talk of a GM bankruptcy.</p>
<p>General Motors Corp. is planning to temporarily close most of its U.S. factories for up to nine weeks, three people briefed on the plan said Wednesday. The exact dates of the closures are not known, but the people said they will occur around the normal two-week shutdown in July when changes are made from one model year to the next. None of the people wanted to be identified because workers have not yet been told of the shutdowns.</p>
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		<title>By: recessionwatch</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/04/regional-growth-strategy-meetings.html#comment-47029</link>
		<dc:creator>recessionwatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 22:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-47028&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;recessionwatch&lt;/a&gt;: 

I should have also mentioned that our BOC governor stated today that no recovery in Canada &#039;is possible&#039; until 2011. he&#039;s moving the goal posts out yet again. Don&#039;t you just love these government retards and thier ability to &#039;revise&#039;the numbers when it&#039;s inconvieniant to speak the truth. He&#039;s just said that you can expect nothing but bad news for at least another two years !!!!!!!&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47029&quot;&gt;3&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="atr_link" href="#comment-47028" rel="nofollow">recessionwatch</a>: </p>
<p>I should have also mentioned that our BOC governor stated today that no recovery in Canada &#8216;is possible&#8217; until 2011. he&#8217;s moving the goal posts out yet again. Don&#8217;t you just love these government retards and thier ability to &#8216;revise&#8217;the numbers when it&#8217;s inconvieniant to speak the truth. He&#8217;s just said that you can expect nothing but bad news for at least another two years !!!!!!!
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		<title>By: recessionwatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>recessionwatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 22:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ECONOMIC NUMBERS KEEP IMPLODING. UNEMPLOYMENT UP AGAIN. RECOVERY FAR OFF. HOUSING NUMBERS FALL AGAIN. 

Jobs, housing data undermine recovery hopes
Jobless claims rise while homes sales drop; recession may be slowing but recovery far off 
 
Thursday

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Worse-than-expected news on unemployment and home sales Thursday dampened optimism that a broad economic recovery might be near.

 

 
Many analysts don&#039;t expect the housing slide to show signs of stabilizing until the second half of this year. They said layoffs may be at their high point, but that the jobless rate, already at a 25-year high, will keep rising until the middle of 2010.

The Labor Department reported Thursday that initial claims for unemployment compensation rose to a seasonally adjusted 640,000 last week, up from a revised 613,000 the previous week. That was slightly more than analysts&#039; expectations of 635,000.

Meanwhile, the National Association of Realtors said sales of existing homes fell 3 percent in March to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 4.57 million units, with February revised down to 4.71 million units. Sales had been expected to fall to an annual rate of 4.7 million units, according to Thomson Reuters&quot;

This is just the beginning. We see the &#039;optimism&#039; wear off as the economy dies off and no hope can be offered anymore by the MSM and the whores who sell dreams. We are curently seeing more stores and buisnesses fold, there are holes in the wall of every mall, on every street. People will lose all hope as EI begins to run out and no jobs appear. This recession like all others will last for years and it will drag on mercilessly. Buyin real estate now just proves how stupid you areand how easily sucked in you got. Bwahahahahahah, the fools are going to provide a lot of entertainmet, get out the popcorn.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47028&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ECONOMIC NUMBERS KEEP IMPLODING. UNEMPLOYMENT UP AGAIN. RECOVERY FAR OFF. HOUSING NUMBERS FALL AGAIN. </p>
<p>Jobs, housing data undermine recovery hopes<br />
Jobless claims rise while homes sales drop; recession may be slowing but recovery far off </p>
<p>Thursday</p>
<p>WASHINGTON (AP) &#8212; Worse-than-expected news on unemployment and home sales Thursday dampened optimism that a broad economic recovery might be near.</p>
<p>Many analysts don&#8217;t expect the housing slide to show signs of stabilizing until the second half of this year. They said layoffs may be at their high point, but that the jobless rate, already at a 25-year high, will keep rising until the middle of 2010.</p>
<p>The Labor Department reported Thursday that initial claims for unemployment compensation rose to a seasonally adjusted 640,000 last week, up from a revised 613,000 the previous week. That was slightly more than analysts&#8217; expectations of 635,000.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, the National Association of Realtors said sales of existing homes fell 3 percent in March to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 4.57 million units, with February revised down to 4.71 million units. Sales had been expected to fall to an annual rate of 4.7 million units, according to Thomson Reuters&#8221;</p>
<p>This is just the beginning. We see the &#8216;optimism&#8217; wear off as the economy dies off and no hope can be offered anymore by the MSM and the whores who sell dreams. We are curently seeing more stores and buisnesses fold, there are holes in the wall of every mall, on every street. People will lose all hope as EI begins to run out and no jobs appear. This recession like all others will last for years and it will drag on mercilessly. Buyin real estate now just proves how stupid you areand how easily sucked in you got. Bwahahahahahah, the fools are going to provide a lot of entertainmet, get out the popcorn.
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/04/regional-growth-strategy-meetings.html#comment-47027</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-47020&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;jesse&lt;/a&gt;: 

I think the Liberals were going to appoint experts to the TransLink board, or at least that is the last I remember from Mr. Falcon.  

That is surely preferable to grandstanding idiots like Corrigan.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47027&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="atr_link" href="#comment-47020" rel="nofollow">jesse</a>: </p>
<p>I think the Liberals were going to appoint experts to the TransLink board, or at least that is the last I remember from Mr. Falcon.  </p>
<p>That is surely preferable to grandstanding idiots like Corrigan.
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		<title>By: Denialisrampant</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/04/regional-growth-strategy-meetings.html#comment-47026</link>
		<dc:creator>Denialisrampant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-47024&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;read on&lt;/a&gt;: 

Again, you missed the point DOOFUS. THE CANADIAN STANDARD OF LIVING is lower. Who gives a fuck about you? Your obvious lack of information comprehension and retention has me concluding that you are bullshitting us. Post your information and prove what you say, other wise you are really just looking like another lying troll.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47026&quot;&gt;3&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="atr_link" href="#comment-47024" rel="nofollow">read on</a>: </p>
<p>Again, you missed the point DOOFUS. THE CANADIAN STANDARD OF LIVING is lower. Who gives a fuck about you? Your obvious lack of information comprehension and retention has me concluding that you are bullshitting us. Post your information and prove what you say, other wise you are really just looking like another lying troll.
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		<title>By: deathspiral</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/04/regional-growth-strategy-meetings.html#comment-47025</link>
		<dc:creator>deathspiral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are at risk of Permanent Layoff. The Government wants you to know. Heres the proof. Unemployed people and poor scared people are easier to control. Your Government is not your friend.

&quot;Permanent Layoffs in Canada: Overview and Longitudinal Analysis 
Issue information
 
Canadians are increasingly concerned about permanent layoffs, as many feel job instability and the possibility of job loss has increased in the 1990s. Governments, confronted with a large number of permanent layoffs each year, need to know how to respond to improve labour adjustment and the possibility of quickly finding a new job for displaced workers. Within this context, this paper uses a new longitudinal data source on the separations of workers to address three issues. First, has there in fact been an increase in the permanent layoff rate in Canada in the 1990s, as one might anticipate given concerns about rising job instability? Second, what are the underlying causes of most permanent layoffs? The paper explicitly examines the role played by cyclical variation in aggregate demand, variation in industrial demand which is often associated with structural change, and differences in layoff rates by firm size which is in turn associated with the birth and death process of firms.

Third, with this as background, the core of the paper asks a question of concern to policy analysts: are most permanent layoffs rare events for workers, or are they a continuation of a pattern of repeat layoffs? This is important because a worker who is confronted with a layoff which is a rare event will require very different post-displacement adjustment assistance from someone whose history of employment has been marked with frequent layoffs, suggesting an inability to hold a job or demand-side instability in the firm or industry in which the person has worked. The workers&#039; employment history over 10 years is used to explore the relationship between permanent layoff history and the probability of being laid off. Displaced workers are classified &quot;low-risk&quot;, &quot;medium-risk&quot; and &quot;high-risk&quot; based on their layoff history, and multinomial logistic analysis is used to distinguish worker and firm characteristics associated with repeat layoffs or layoffs as rare events.&quot;

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/bsolc/olc-cel/olc-cel?catno=11F0019MIE1997103&amp;lang=eng&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47025&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are at risk of Permanent Layoff. The Government wants you to know. Heres the proof. Unemployed people and poor scared people are easier to control. Your Government is not your friend.</p>
<p>&#8220;Permanent Layoffs in Canada: Overview and Longitudinal Analysis<br />
Issue information</p>
<p>Canadians are increasingly concerned about permanent layoffs, as many feel job instability and the possibility of job loss has increased in the 1990s. Governments, confronted with a large number of permanent layoffs each year, need to know how to respond to improve labour adjustment and the possibility of quickly finding a new job for displaced workers. Within this context, this paper uses a new longitudinal data source on the separations of workers to address three issues. First, has there in fact been an increase in the permanent layoff rate in Canada in the 1990s, as one might anticipate given concerns about rising job instability? Second, what are the underlying causes of most permanent layoffs? The paper explicitly examines the role played by cyclical variation in aggregate demand, variation in industrial demand which is often associated with structural change, and differences in layoff rates by firm size which is in turn associated with the birth and death process of firms.</p>
<p>Third, with this as background, the core of the paper asks a question of concern to policy analysts: are most permanent layoffs rare events for workers, or are they a continuation of a pattern of repeat layoffs? This is important because a worker who is confronted with a layoff which is a rare event will require very different post-displacement adjustment assistance from someone whose history of employment has been marked with frequent layoffs, suggesting an inability to hold a job or demand-side instability in the firm or industry in which the person has worked. The workers&#8217; employment history over 10 years is used to explore the relationship between permanent layoff history and the probability of being laid off. Displaced workers are classified &#8220;low-risk&#8221;, &#8220;medium-risk&#8221; and &#8220;high-risk&#8221; based on their layoff history, and multinomial logistic analysis is used to distinguish worker and firm characteristics associated with repeat layoffs or layoffs as rare events.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.statcan.gc.ca/bsolc/olc-cel/olc-cel?catno=11F0019MIE1997103&amp;lang=eng" rel="nofollow">http://www.statcan.gc.ca/bsolc.....p;lang=eng</a>
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		<title>By: read on</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/04/regional-growth-strategy-meetings.html#comment-47024</link>
		<dc:creator>read on</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dear denial:

#22 read on, you missed the point Einstein. The fact is that you are paid lower on average and have a lower standard of living on average than everyone in the developed world who is doing a similar job.
------------

Again, do not project your issues onto me.  In my profession, I am paid better than 80% of comparative positions in the US and the UK (the other two major markets for my profession), and have much better conditions to boot.

God luck.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47024&quot;&gt;-1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear denial:</p>
<p>#22 read on, you missed the point Einstein. The fact is that you are paid lower on average and have a lower standard of living on average than everyone in the developed world who is doing a similar job.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Again, do not project your issues onto me.  In my profession, I am paid better than 80% of comparative positions in the US and the UK (the other two major markets for my profession), and have much better conditions to boot.</p>
<p>God luck.
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		<title>By: Denialisrampant</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/04/regional-growth-strategy-meetings.html#comment-47023</link>
		<dc:creator>Denialisrampant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#22 read on, you missed the point Einstein. The fact is that you are paid lower on average and have a lower standard of living on average than everyone in the developed world who is doing a similar job. Those are just facts. Read a bio of the CDN economy under the Trudeau-LaLonde to Chretian Liberal Party years and you will quickly realise ( any semi literate person will) that the economic policies of the Liberal Party under those regimes and in the interim periods affected by Liberal policy were specifically designed to keep the standard measures lower in for stated socioeconomic goals held by the Liberal Party. It&#039;s in the library pally, read on.

One good example ( one of many) is &quot;The Seven Percent Solution&quot; doctrine dreamt up by Pierre Trudeau, the great CDN patriot ( excuse me while I puke). This Machiavellian plot to socially engineer a specific number of people into poverty and under/unemployment was designed to provide an ongoing cheap labour pool for the inefficient but politically controlled industries in the development of &#039;Quebec, the nation of&#039;, is an absolute zinger.

If you don&#039;t think that you&#039;re subserviant to the government, then pally, you just can&#039;t think. Either that or you don&#039;t have any formal education and thusly avoided the dreaded poli-sci electives brainfuck at UNI and haven&#039;t a clue about your own political history.. Either way pally, play and learn or STFU.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47023&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#22 read on, you missed the point Einstein. The fact is that you are paid lower on average and have a lower standard of living on average than everyone in the developed world who is doing a similar job. Those are just facts. Read a bio of the CDN economy under the Trudeau-LaLonde to Chretian Liberal Party years and you will quickly realise ( any semi literate person will) that the economic policies of the Liberal Party under those regimes and in the interim periods affected by Liberal policy were specifically designed to keep the standard measures lower in for stated socioeconomic goals held by the Liberal Party. It&#8217;s in the library pally, read on.</p>
<p>One good example ( one of many) is &#8220;The Seven Percent Solution&#8221; doctrine dreamt up by Pierre Trudeau, the great CDN patriot ( excuse me while I puke). This Machiavellian plot to socially engineer a specific number of people into poverty and under/unemployment was designed to provide an ongoing cheap labour pool for the inefficient but politically controlled industries in the development of &#8216;Quebec, the nation of&#8217;, is an absolute zinger.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t think that you&#8217;re subserviant to the government, then pally, you just can&#8217;t think. Either that or you don&#8217;t have any formal education and thusly avoided the dreaded poli-sci electives brainfuck at UNI and haven&#8217;t a clue about your own political history.. Either way pally, play and learn or STFU.
<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-47023">2</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p>
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		<title>By: bullshitonapointysticktotheeye</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/04/regional-growth-strategy-meetings.html#comment-47022</link>
		<dc:creator>bullshitonapointysticktotheeye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-46993&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;read on&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47022&quot;&gt;-3&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="atr_link" href="#comment-46993" rel="nofollow">read on</a>:
<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-47022">-3</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p>
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		<title>By: jesse</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/04/regional-growth-strategy-meetings.html#comment-47021</link>
		<dc:creator>jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW health and education boards have local decision making abilities but major capex projects I think are controlled from Victoria, or at least the proposals are subject to approval or a set of strict guidelines. Health boards are not locally elected but school boards are, probably because local taxes have a large part to play in the budget. Maybe there&#039;s something to that...&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47021&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW health and education boards have local decision making abilities but major capex projects I think are controlled from Victoria, or at least the proposals are subject to approval or a set of strict guidelines. Health boards are not locally elected but school boards are, probably because local taxes have a large part to play in the budget. Maybe there&#8217;s something to that&#8230;
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