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	<title>Comments on: Renters happier than owners?</title>
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	<description>Bubble? What Bubble?</description>
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		<title>By: Bilbo Bloggins</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/06/renters-happier-than-owners.html#comment-48878</link>
		<dc:creator>Bilbo Bloggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a generalization -- owning is NOT painful.
Owning UNAFFORDABLE properties or problem properties IS painful.

Anecdotally, we invited this couple to go out for dinner with us a few times.  Each time they declined.  I stopped inviting them after the guy grumpily blurted out that they were trying to save money because of the mortgage.
Mind you this was not a high-end restaurant that we wanted to try out.  Entrees were $18 to $25 tops.

Also, they&#039;re spending a lot of time and money right now trying to fix up the basement so that they can have their little mortgage helper.  New flooring, appliances.  It&#039;s all adding up.

As for us, we&#039;re planning out next vacation probably to Spain and a Mediterranean cruise.  We take about 3 vacations per year.
This poor couple (actually their combined income is not that far off from ours) hasn&#039;t taken a holiday anywhere in 2 years.
The wife wants to travel badly, but they only managed to run down to Seattle for the weekend a couple of of times.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-48878&quot;&gt;3&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a generalization &#8212; owning is NOT painful.<br />
Owning UNAFFORDABLE properties or problem properties IS painful.</p>
<p>Anecdotally, we invited this couple to go out for dinner with us a few times.  Each time they declined.  I stopped inviting them after the guy grumpily blurted out that they were trying to save money because of the mortgage.<br />
Mind you this was not a high-end restaurant that we wanted to try out.  Entrees were $18 to $25 tops.</p>
<p>Also, they&#8217;re spending a lot of time and money right now trying to fix up the basement so that they can have their little mortgage helper.  New flooring, appliances.  It&#8217;s all adding up.</p>
<p>As for us, we&#8217;re planning out next vacation probably to Spain and a Mediterranean cruise.  We take about 3 vacations per year.<br />
This poor couple (actually their combined income is not that far off from ours) hasn&#8217;t taken a holiday anywhere in 2 years.<br />
The wife wants to travel badly, but they only managed to run down to Seattle for the weekend a couple of of times.
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		<title>By: read on</title>
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		<dc:creator>read on</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^^ good luck selling an &quot;investment&quot; that bleeds cash.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-48863&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^^ good luck selling an &#8220;investment&#8221; that bleeds cash.
<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-48863">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p>
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		<title>By: Vancouverite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vancouverite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I own a Condo in Lower Lonsdale which I rent out.
After maintenance fees &amp; taxes $620. PER MONTH
Costs me $546 per month to be a ?????
To own considering 4-8% per year depreciating market?
I will/can sell immediatelly!&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-48853&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I own a Condo in Lower Lonsdale which I rent out.<br />
After maintenance fees &amp; taxes $620. PER MONTH<br />
Costs me $546 per month to be a ?????<br />
To own considering 4-8% per year depreciating market?<br />
I will/can sell immediatelly!
<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-48853">1</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p>
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		<title>By: Boombust</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/06/renters-happier-than-owners.html#comment-48839</link>
		<dc:creator>Boombust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dumb.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-48839&quot;&gt;-4&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dumb.
<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-48839">-4</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p>
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		<title>By: read on</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/06/renters-happier-than-owners.html#comment-48838</link>
		<dc:creator>read on</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 07:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The house forclosure diet!  Some one call Oprah!&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-48838&quot;&gt;6&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The house forclosure diet!  Some one call Oprah!
<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-48838">6</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p>
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		<title>By: MrBear</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrBear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 06:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My analysis relies on the responses from about 500 women from Franklin 
County, OH.&quot;

The author claims to control for a large number of factors including age (which is what led me to download the article - older people are more likely to own houses and presumably also more likely to be heavier) but given the number of things supposedly controlled for I&#039;m surprised there was any data left in the end to draw conclusions from.  Not that I discount the study.  I&#039;d describe it as interesting but possibly not the strongest evidence one could hope for.

Hmm, I should save this away just in case my wife should ever go crazy and insist on buying a house.  &quot;But dear, we&#039;ll get fat!&quot;&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-48837&quot;&gt;9&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My analysis relies on the responses from about 500 women from Franklin<br />
County, OH.&#8221;</p>
<p>The author claims to control for a large number of factors including age (which is what led me to download the article &#8211; older people are more likely to own houses and presumably also more likely to be heavier) but given the number of things supposedly controlled for I&#8217;m surprised there was any data left in the end to draw conclusions from.  Not that I discount the study.  I&#8217;d describe it as interesting but possibly not the strongest evidence one could hope for.</p>
<p>Hmm, I should save this away just in case my wife should ever go crazy and insist on buying a house.  &#8220;But dear, we&#8217;ll get fat!&#8221;
<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-48837">9</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p>
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		<title>By: TUT</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/06/renters-happier-than-owners.html#comment-48836</link>
		<dc:creator>TUT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 06:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not know about others but it is true for me.
After paying three full mortgages in my life peace of mind may be the underlining reason. :)&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-48836&quot;&gt;5&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not know about others but it is true for me.<br />
After paying three full mortgages in my life peace of mind may be the underlining reason. <img src='http://vancouvercondo.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-48836">5</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p>
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