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	<description>Bubble? What Bubble?</description>
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		<title>By: mousie</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/08/the-pre-sales-pinch.html#comment-51235</link>
		<dc:creator>mousie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 20:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeay, and I&#039;m off looking at the sailing boats from the shore being glad I dont have the moorage, repair bills, maintainance, fuel bills, tax?.. just sit on the beach with my cuppa tea and snacks watch the boats, the clouds, watch the waves and can leave any time I like, just like renting!
My sailing is only costing..$2 max.

Ok..a little cheeky.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-51235&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeay, and I&#8217;m off looking at the sailing boats from the shore being glad I dont have the moorage, repair bills, maintainance, fuel bills, tax?.. just sit on the beach with my cuppa tea and snacks watch the boats, the clouds, watch the waves and can leave any time I like, just like renting!<br />
My sailing is only costing..$2 max.</p>
<p>Ok..a little cheeky.
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		<title>By: stop the madness</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/08/the-pre-sales-pinch.html#comment-51207</link>
		<dc:creator>stop the madness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol, too funny.  i shall now stop reading the blog for a few months again until the fall downturn begins and retards such as supra get bored and go away - or simply change their name, as usual.

have a nice end of summer folks - I&#039;m off sailing.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-51207&quot;&gt;4&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol, too funny.  i shall now stop reading the blog for a few months again until the fall downturn begins and retards such as supra get bored and go away &#8211; or simply change their name, as usual.</p>
<p>have a nice end of summer folks &#8211; I&#8217;m off sailing.
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		<title>By: Supraboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Supraboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 15:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The old man will have to pay a big rent hike next year, to the max. Anyhow, he&#039;s lost out. He should&#039;ve refinanced and taken out a loan to load up another condo instead like every other rich man. Poor sucker&#039;s going to regret renting for the rest of his old retired miserable life.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-51204&quot;&gt;-8&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The old man will have to pay a big rent hike next year, to the max. Anyhow, he&#8217;s lost out. He should&#8217;ve refinanced and taken out a loan to load up another condo instead like every other rich man. Poor sucker&#8217;s going to regret renting for the rest of his old retired miserable life.
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		<title>By: Boombust</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/08/the-pre-sales-pinch.html#comment-51203</link>
		<dc:creator>Boombust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 15:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;People that live in the city don’t generally buy pick ups&quot;

Maybe they&#039;re &quot;Urban Cowboys&quot; from Yaletown?&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-51203&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;People that live in the city don’t generally buy pick ups&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe they&#8217;re &#8220;Urban Cowboys&#8221; from Yaletown?
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		<title>By: stop the madness</title>
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		<dc:creator>stop the madness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 06:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>supra-retard - 

how does 4k turn into 8k rent in one year when Van has rent increase control?

retard, and troll.

bad me, for rising to the bait.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-51202&quot;&gt;7&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>supra-retard &#8211; </p>
<p>how does 4k turn into 8k rent in one year when Van has rent increase control?</p>
<p>retard, and troll.</p>
<p>bad me, for rising to the bait.
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		<title>By: realpaul</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/08/the-pre-sales-pinch.html#comment-51201</link>
		<dc:creator>realpaul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 06:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-51191&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Boombust&lt;/a&gt;: 

#79 BB, C&#039;mon &#039;Clayton Heights&#039;, Jesus man what are you smoking. &#039; Guildford&#039; , &#039; Fraser Heights &#039;, &#039; Cloverdale&#039;??????? Why have you left out Newtons &#039;Chimney Heights&#039; and North Delta &#039;Brown Town?&#039;

You don&#039;t choose to live in those places, you are forced to move there because you can&#039;t afford anywhere else. Hermano, 4000 sq ft of sewer front is still living in a sewer. If I wanted to live like a refugee in the country I grew up in though, thats exactly where I&#039;d go to slide right down to the very bottom of the barrel. 

The people who try to fool themselves into moving &#039;Morgan Creek&#039; etc are really just saying &quot; I&#039;m a pretentious asshole who can&#039;t really afford to live anywhere else&#039;. Do they really think they&#039;re fooling anyone? But &#039;Clayton Heights&#039; .... with all those buck toothed yahoos and the yard fulls of squealing piglets, yapping fatties and secret gay boy husbands in their pick up trucks bald heads and cheesy goatees are not my cup of tea. Not in this life time amigo!!!!!!

I had a chum in the recording biz who was living downtown in a place that had a view of the gay stroll, where the young boys ply their wares. I went over there one day at his insistence because he said there was a zoo that I had to see for myself to believe. At about 5:30 we went out on the balcony and watched pick up truck after pick up truck picking up the gay boys on the stroll. 

The guys in the trucks were all obviously husbands and fathers from Surrey. You could see they had kids toys and lawn equipment etcetera in the back while they hustled off into the lanes to get thier freak on with some goofy hooker boy. Sheeeeesh ! These are the same bald, stupid goateed dipshits that you see out in the neighbourhoods of Clayton Heights, Cloverdale, Fraser Heights Morgan Heights etc as you&#039;ve mentioned. The reason you know these bozo&#039;s are from Surrey and the Valley is that no one else drives pick ups in that number. People that live in the city don&#039;t generally buy pick ups, thats a &#039;dip shit in the valley&#039; thing. Thats another one of the many reasons I would not want to live in &#039;The Sewer&#039;. The people are such scum. Why they need a little boy and a pick up truck is way too weird to contemplate.

 Theres a reason real estate is cheaper out there in the hinterlands. Its also cheaper in Spuzzum. People out there haven&#039;t cottoned on to secret &#039;deal&#039;!!!!!! The people in that video were exactly the type of people who infest ALL of Surrey. It is really a shithole of BIBLICAL proportions.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-51201&quot;&gt;3&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="atr_link" href="#comment-51191" rel="nofollow">Boombust</a>: </p>
<p>#79 BB, C&#8217;mon &#8216;Clayton Heights&#8217;, Jesus man what are you smoking. &#8216; Guildford&#8217; , &#8216; Fraser Heights &#8216;, &#8216; Cloverdale&#8217;??????? Why have you left out Newtons &#8216;Chimney Heights&#8217; and North Delta &#8216;Brown Town?&#8217;</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t choose to live in those places, you are forced to move there because you can&#8217;t afford anywhere else. Hermano, 4000 sq ft of sewer front is still living in a sewer. If I wanted to live like a refugee in the country I grew up in though, thats exactly where I&#8217;d go to slide right down to the very bottom of the barrel. </p>
<p>The people who try to fool themselves into moving &#8216;Morgan Creek&#8217; etc are really just saying &#8221; I&#8217;m a pretentious asshole who can&#8217;t really afford to live anywhere else&#8217;. Do they really think they&#8217;re fooling anyone? But &#8216;Clayton Heights&#8217; &#8230;. with all those buck toothed yahoos and the yard fulls of squealing piglets, yapping fatties and secret gay boy husbands in their pick up trucks bald heads and cheesy goatees are not my cup of tea. Not in this life time amigo!!!!!!</p>
<p>I had a chum in the recording biz who was living downtown in a place that had a view of the gay stroll, where the young boys ply their wares. I went over there one day at his insistence because he said there was a zoo that I had to see for myself to believe. At about 5:30 we went out on the balcony and watched pick up truck after pick up truck picking up the gay boys on the stroll. </p>
<p>The guys in the trucks were all obviously husbands and fathers from Surrey. You could see they had kids toys and lawn equipment etcetera in the back while they hustled off into the lanes to get thier freak on with some goofy hooker boy. Sheeeeesh ! These are the same bald, stupid goateed dipshits that you see out in the neighbourhoods of Clayton Heights, Cloverdale, Fraser Heights Morgan Heights etc as you&#8217;ve mentioned. The reason you know these bozo&#8217;s are from Surrey and the Valley is that no one else drives pick ups in that number. People that live in the city don&#8217;t generally buy pick ups, thats a &#8216;dip shit in the valley&#8217; thing. Thats another one of the many reasons I would not want to live in &#8216;The Sewer&#8217;. The people are such scum. Why they need a little boy and a pick up truck is way too weird to contemplate.</p>
<p> Theres a reason real estate is cheaper out there in the hinterlands. Its also cheaper in Spuzzum. People out there haven&#8217;t cottoned on to secret &#8216;deal&#8217;!!!!!! The people in that video were exactly the type of people who infest ALL of Surrey. It is really a shithole of BIBLICAL proportions.
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		<title>By: Supraboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Supraboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 05:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#87, nice article, there&#039;s another millionaire just like that. People like the old man can afford to fork up rent, and there are people with millions to take over the old man&#039;s house, poor man will regret it when his house rockets to 3 million and he&#039;ll be renting for 8000 a month next year.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-51200&quot;&gt;-13&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#87, nice article, there&#8217;s another millionaire just like that. People like the old man can afford to fork up rent, and there are people with millions to take over the old man&#8217;s house, poor man will regret it when his house rockets to 3 million and he&#8217;ll be renting for 8000 a month next year.
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		<title>By: nonymouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>nonymouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 05:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great little tidbit in the Sun today.
http://www.vancouversun.com/Home+With+legendary+Robinson/1936523/story.html&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-51199&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great little tidbit in the Sun today.<br />
<a href="http://www.vancouversun.com/Home+With+legendary+Robinson/1936523/story.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.vancouversun.com/Ho.....story.html</a>
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		<title>By: Supraboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Supraboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 05:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, nobody gets rich renting in Vancouver. But we do get rich from buying and flipping the houses. For example, buy in the Winter, unload in the summer. This is the easiest way I&#039;ve ever made money and I will continue to play this game with my spare change.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-51198&quot;&gt;-17&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, nobody gets rich renting in Vancouver. But we do get rich from buying and flipping the houses. For example, buy in the Winter, unload in the summer. This is the easiest way I&#8217;ve ever made money and I will continue to play this game with my spare change.
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		<title>By: NO -LYMPICS</title>
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		<dc:creator>NO -LYMPICS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 04:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Supraboy:

What don&#039;t you understand ?

Banks almost always  make money on the spread , they tend to make record profits when times are bad for the rest of us.

Apparently they have been in the markets as well, driving that bogus crap 

The CMHC will back them up when their mortgages go South.

Legalized theft.

PS stop your &quot;bum&quot; fetish.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-51197&quot;&gt;7&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Supraboy:</p>
<p>What don&#8217;t you understand ?</p>
<p>Banks almost always  make money on the spread , they tend to make record profits when times are bad for the rest of us.</p>
<p>Apparently they have been in the markets as well, driving that bogus crap </p>
<p>The CMHC will back them up when their mortgages go South.</p>
<p>Legalized theft.</p>
<p>PS stop your &#8220;bum&#8221; fetish.
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		<title>By: stop the madness</title>
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		<dc:creator>stop the madness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 04:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>supra (ignoring the fact u are a troll) - 

no one gets rich renting to people in Van unless they bought a long time ago - as rentals are so comparatively cheap (comparative with RE prices).&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-51196&quot;&gt;8&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>supra (ignoring the fact u are a troll) &#8211; </p>
<p>no one gets rich renting to people in Van unless they bought a long time ago &#8211; as rentals are so comparatively cheap (comparative with RE prices).
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		<title>By: Supraboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Supraboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 03:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a feeling that this website is made for only middle class or low income bums who can&#039;t afford a house. 
Most of the people on this board is obviously out of sync with reality. The negativity is beyond ridiculous. Each positive comment gets shot down like a dead dog. 

Check this out:
http://www.google.com/finance?q=td.to

TD hit another 52 week high. So did royal bank. What part of that don&#039;t some of you understand? If there will be a crash coming, stocks wouldn&#039;t be touching 52 week highs. US housing is also improving. Good luck boys and girls. Get ready for your 200 square feet living space when more people get rich in Vancouver renting to poor bums.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-51195&quot;&gt;-15&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a feeling that this website is made for only middle class or low income bums who can&#8217;t afford a house.<br />
Most of the people on this board is obviously out of sync with reality. The negativity is beyond ridiculous. Each positive comment gets shot down like a dead dog. </p>
<p>Check this out:<br />
<a href="http://www.google.com/finance?q=td.to" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/finance?q=td.to</a></p>
<p>TD hit another 52 week high. So did royal bank. What part of that don&#8217;t some of you understand? If there will be a crash coming, stocks wouldn&#8217;t be touching 52 week highs. US housing is also improving. Good luck boys and girls. Get ready for your 200 square feet living space when more people get rich in Vancouver renting to poor bums.
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		<title>By: NO -LYMPICS</title>
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		<dc:creator>NO -LYMPICS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 03:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robber Poops in Yard - Surrey BC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7otxZsdleBg

(At least he didn&#039;t shit in the house)&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-51194&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robber Poops in Yard &#8211; Surrey BC</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7otxZsdleBg" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7otxZsdleBg</a></p>
<p>(At least he didn&#8217;t shit in the house)
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		<title>By: No Longer Looking</title>
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		<dc:creator>No Longer Looking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 03:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re welcome, but I have even more fun info. That squatter house is long gone (the footage is from 2001) and a new house is on the lot.

Check what its selling for :o

http://bchousefinder.com/property_details-F2911159.html

note: you can see the house address in the footage&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-51193&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re welcome, but I have even more fun info. That squatter house is long gone (the footage is from 2001) and a new house is on the lot.</p>
<p>Check what its selling for <img src='http://vancouvercondo.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://bchousefinder.com/property_details-F2911159.html" rel="nofollow">http://bchousefinder.com/prope.....11159.html</a></p>
<p>note: you can see the house address in the footage
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		<title>By: NO -LYMPICS</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 03:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>76  X realpaul Says:  

August 27th, 2009 at 6:51 pm 

No Longer Looking: 

#72 NLK, that&#039;s Surrey alright. What was scarier? The people inside the crackhouse or the ones out in the street?

================
Too funny.
The neighbours fit just about every stereotype of Surrey.

BTW: No Longer Looking .... thanks for the Video.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-51192&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>76  X realpaul Says:  </p>
<p>August 27th, 2009 at 6:51 pm </p>
<p>No Longer Looking: </p>
<p>#72 NLK, that&#8217;s Surrey alright. What was scarier? The people inside the crackhouse or the ones out in the street?</p>
<p>================<br />
Too funny.<br />
The neighbours fit just about every stereotype of Surrey.</p>
<p>BTW: No Longer Looking &#8230;. thanks for the Video.
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		<title>By: Boombust</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 02:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>realpaul,

There ARE nice areas of Surrey, y&#039;know. Just as the DTES of Vancouver doesn&#039;t represent all of Vancouver, the Whalley area doesn&#039;t represent all of Surrey.

South Surrey, Cloverdale, Clayton Heights, Fraser Heights, Guildford, Ocean Park...&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-51191&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>realpaul,</p>
<p>There ARE nice areas of Surrey, y&#8217;know. Just as the DTES of Vancouver doesn&#8217;t represent all of Vancouver, the Whalley area doesn&#8217;t represent all of Surrey.</p>
<p>South Surrey, Cloverdale, Clayton Heights, Fraser Heights, Guildford, Ocean Park&#8230;
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 02:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I saw Micheal Campbell on Global spouting the same nonsense.&quot;

Yeah, I saw that idiot on the 5 o&#039;clock Global News. Furrowed brow, pursed lips...he makes me wanna puke.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-51190&quot;&gt;6&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I saw Micheal Campbell on Global spouting the same nonsense.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, I saw that idiot on the 5 o&#8217;clock Global News. Furrowed brow, pursed lips&#8230;he makes me wanna puke.
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		<title>By: PorkyFlu</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 02:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Vancouver is really the best place on earth. I&#039;ve traveled the globe and I&#039;ve determined that there is truly no place like Vancouver. And so I&#039;ve decided to buy a $700,000 3 bed 2 bath fixer upper on the east side for my family. It will only take 35 years to pay it off and will be worth every penny. Thanks for listening to my story.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-51189&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Vancouver is really the best place on earth. I&#8217;ve traveled the globe and I&#8217;ve determined that there is truly no place like Vancouver. And so I&#8217;ve decided to buy a $700,000 3 bed 2 bath fixer upper on the east side for my family. It will only take 35 years to pay it off and will be worth every penny. Thanks for listening to my story.
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		<title>By: realpaul</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 01:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-51184&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;No Longer Looking&lt;/a&gt;: 

#72 NLK, thats Surrey alright. What was scarier? The people inside the crackhouse or the ones out in the street? You couldn&#039;t give me a house for free if it meant living in that shithole.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-51188&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="atr_link" href="#comment-51184" rel="nofollow">No Longer Looking</a>: </p>
<p>#72 NLK, thats Surrey alright. What was scarier? The people inside the crackhouse or the ones out in the street? You couldn&#8217;t give me a house for free if it meant living in that shithole.
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		<title>By: Anonymus</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 01:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hired certified inspector that searched for oil tank. It was no big deal, took 1/2 hour and cost is $500. That Oil tank inspection is not required by either bank and is not part of  home inspection so at the time of my purchase of the house I did not do it because disclosure statement stated that oil tank does not exist. 
When i decided to sell the house I decided to hire inspectors  because few prospective  buyers asked for Certificate that Oil Tank is removed. So once i found out about tank I had to dig it up and since soil was contaminated   Inspectors have to inform the City right away.  As owner you obligation as good citizen under the Environmental Act to clean it up right away. 
Yes, practically ALL previous owners are liable but most of them would be  dead or difficult to track down. So the best chance is to recover damage is from the previous owner.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-51187&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hired certified inspector that searched for oil tank. It was no big deal, took 1/2 hour and cost is $500. That Oil tank inspection is not required by either bank and is not part of  home inspection so at the time of my purchase of the house I did not do it because disclosure statement stated that oil tank does not exist.<br />
When i decided to sell the house I decided to hire inspectors  because few prospective  buyers asked for Certificate that Oil Tank is removed. So once i found out about tank I had to dig it up and since soil was contaminated   Inspectors have to inform the City right away.  As owner you obligation as good citizen under the Environmental Act to clean it up right away.<br />
Yes, practically ALL previous owners are liable but most of them would be  dead or difficult to track down. So the best chance is to recover damage is from the previous owner.
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		<title>By: realpaul</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 01:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-51185&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Boombust&lt;/a&gt;: 

#73 BB The cheerleaders have got their pom poms out latley thats for sure. I saw Micheal Campbell on Global spouting the same nonsense. This guy is supposed to be an economist, what a lick spittle whore.

There is nothing about the fundamentals of the Canadian economy which justifies calls for an ending of the recession. I think these cocktail swilling pretend plutocrats have taken it upon themselves to &#039;force &#039; change upon the masses by selling &#039;good&#039; stories instead of &#039;real&#039; news.

The Premier has authorised spending like a drunken tourist after visiting the weatherman and now the provincial wallet is empty, So what does a drunk do? Well he breaks out his credit card naturally. To hell with kids, the parents surgeries, the wifes education. A drunk like Campbell operates in a very confined state of mind, an inability to plan a move past the end of his dick. His father was a drunk and thats how campbell learned to function. All party, no pants. And who&#039;s going to have to pay the proverbial fireman to put out the fire? Does the drunk have to dig into his own account to pay for the carnage or his own healthcare? Of course not, drunks don&#039;t think about other peoples problems. We ahve a multi generational drunk at the helm. Did we expect any other outcome? ReallY?&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-51186&quot;&gt;8&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="atr_link" href="#comment-51185" rel="nofollow">Boombust</a>: </p>
<p>#73 BB The cheerleaders have got their pom poms out latley thats for sure. I saw Micheal Campbell on Global spouting the same nonsense. This guy is supposed to be an economist, what a lick spittle whore.</p>
<p>There is nothing about the fundamentals of the Canadian economy which justifies calls for an ending of the recession. I think these cocktail swilling pretend plutocrats have taken it upon themselves to &#8216;force &#8216; change upon the masses by selling &#8216;good&#8217; stories instead of &#8216;real&#8217; news.</p>
<p>The Premier has authorised spending like a drunken tourist after visiting the weatherman and now the provincial wallet is empty, So what does a drunk do? Well he breaks out his credit card naturally. To hell with kids, the parents surgeries, the wifes education. A drunk like Campbell operates in a very confined state of mind, an inability to plan a move past the end of his dick. His father was a drunk and thats how campbell learned to function. All party, no pants. And who&#8217;s going to have to pay the proverbial fireman to put out the fire? Does the drunk have to dig into his own account to pay for the carnage or his own healthcare? Of course not, drunks don&#8217;t think about other peoples problems. We ahve a multi generational drunk at the helm. Did we expect any other outcome? ReallY?
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		<title>By: Boombust</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 01:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw Bill Good Jr. and the CTV gang on the 6 o&#039;clock News pumpin&#039; the local RE market once again.

Of course, Cameron Muir was trotted out. He said that consumers are feeling &quot;confident&quot;.

My, how they forget the small respite we had last fall.

Cheap money, anyone?

These people should be ashamed of themselves, but, they AREN&quot;T.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-51185&quot;&gt;8&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw Bill Good Jr. and the CTV gang on the 6 o&#8217;clock News pumpin&#8217; the local RE market once again.</p>
<p>Of course, Cameron Muir was trotted out. He said that consumers are feeling &#8220;confident&#8221;.</p>
<p>My, how they forget the small respite we had last fall.</p>
<p>Cheap money, anyone?</p>
<p>These people should be ashamed of themselves, but, they AREN&#8221;T.
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		<title>By: No Longer Looking</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 01:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you know anyone who wants to buy cheap in a rough area of Surrey, have them watch this 10 minute video (the last half is the best):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUkMfoe_Rd8&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-51184&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you know anyone who wants to buy cheap in a rough area of Surrey, have them watch this 10 minute video (the last half is the best):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUkMfoe_Rd8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUkMfoe_Rd8</a>
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		<title>By: NO -LYMPICS</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 01:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Backyard nightmare: Leaking oil tank costs $160,000 to clean up
 
A North Shore woman is suing the former owners of a home in West Vancouver after she shelled out more than $160,000 to remove 5,000 litres of contaminated fuel from a leaky home-heating oil tank buried in her backyard.

http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/story.html?id=faebd04d-2991-442c-b181-2ed6f34a817c&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-51183&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Backyard nightmare: Leaking oil tank costs $160,000 to clean up</p>
<p>A North Shore woman is suing the former owners of a home in West Vancouver after she shelled out more than $160,000 to remove 5,000 litres of contaminated fuel from a leaky home-heating oil tank buried in her backyard.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/story.html?id=faebd04d-2991-442c-b181-2ed6f34a817c" rel="nofollow">http://www.canada.com/theprovi.....d6f34a817c</a>
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		<title>By: NO -LYMPICS</title>
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		<dc:creator>NO -LYMPICS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>56   Anonymus :

Re Oil Tanks

If you don&#039;t mind my asking again...

Did you sell an existing home that had a &quot; subject - to &quot; from the purchasers that ,you ,the seller, had to conclusively  identify the existence of an oil tank ?  Did you then have to hire an expert to find it ?

In my experience, Oil heating was popular for homes built up until the 1950&#039;s. Below ground oil tanks often have a small pipe about 6 - 8 inches long above ground with a screw cap on it. 

Often these tanks are found in the demolition process ie a new house built on the site. Inside the house there can be evidence of previous oil heating as well.

Next time....I would suggest a records search at the given City Hall....look up all building permits, should identify this. 

If the owner is liable, then ALL previous owners would need to disclose up to the point such rules of disclosure came into effect. Legally messy. I recall a story out of North Van where the new owner was on the hook for approx. $100,000 due to an old leaky tank.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-51182&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>56   Anonymus :</p>
<p>Re Oil Tanks</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t mind my asking again&#8230;</p>
<p>Did you sell an existing home that had a &#8221; subject &#8211; to &#8221; from the purchasers that ,you ,the seller, had to conclusively  identify the existence of an oil tank ?  Did you then have to hire an expert to find it ?</p>
<p>In my experience, Oil heating was popular for homes built up until the 1950&#8242;s. Below ground oil tanks often have a small pipe about 6 &#8211; 8 inches long above ground with a screw cap on it. </p>
<p>Often these tanks are found in the demolition process ie a new house built on the site. Inside the house there can be evidence of previous oil heating as well.</p>
<p>Next time&#8230;.I would suggest a records search at the given City Hall&#8230;.look up all building permits, should identify this. </p>
<p>If the owner is liable, then ALL previous owners would need to disclose up to the point such rules of disclosure came into effect. Legally messy. I recall a story out of North Van where the new owner was on the hook for approx. $100,000 due to an old leaky tank.
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