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	<description>Bubble? What Bubble?</description>
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		<title>By: Disbelief</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/11/sales-boom-sparks-bubble-fear.html#comment-59356</link>
		<dc:creator>Disbelief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These Bulls are being awful cocky.  Reminds me of those videos I watched on Youtube where those ultra cocky realtors were outright laughing at the Guy who said the market in unsustainable and will fall.  I have to check those out again (priceless).  He who laughs last laughs best..&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-59356&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These Bulls are being awful cocky.  Reminds me of those videos I watched on Youtube where those ultra cocky realtors were outright laughing at the Guy who said the market in unsustainable and will fall.  I have to check those out again (priceless).  He who laughs last laughs best..
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		<title>By: Drachen</title>
		<link>http://vancouvercondo.info/2009/11/sales-boom-sparks-bubble-fear.html#comment-59329</link>
		<dc:creator>Drachen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uhh, I&#039;m still pretty sure it&#039;s going to prove accurate, as I said nothing in my prediction is false yet because I didn&#039;t predict down to the month what would happen, I said &quot;give or take a year&quot;.

So stick it where the sun don&#039;t shine, sit down and shut up until you have something useful to say.

And here&#039;s a prediction where I can just throw caution to the wind.  You will still be a jerk tomorrow morning and people still won&#039;t like you.

Maybe that&#039;s going out on too much of a limb?

Nah.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-59329&quot;&gt;6&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uhh, I&#8217;m still pretty sure it&#8217;s going to prove accurate, as I said nothing in my prediction is false yet because I didn&#8217;t predict down to the month what would happen, I said &#8220;give or take a year&#8221;.</p>
<p>So stick it where the sun don&#8217;t shine, sit down and shut up until you have something useful to say.</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s a prediction where I can just throw caution to the wind.  You will still be a jerk tomorrow morning and people still won&#8217;t like you.</p>
<p>Maybe that&#8217;s going out on too much of a limb?</p>
<p>Nah.
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		<title>By: oneangryslav2</title>
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		<dc:creator>oneangryslav2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-59322&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Time Machine&lt;/a&gt;: As Yogi Berra once famously said...&quot;It&#039;s tough to make predictions, especially about the future.&quot; He also once opined that &quot;it was like deja vu all over again.&quot; Here are some other Yogi Berrisms:

--&quot;You can observe a lot just by watching.&quot;
--&quot;If you don&#039;t know where you are going, you might wind up someplace else.&quot;
--&quot;The future ain&#039;t what it used to be.&quot;

Something tells me that Yogi is a closet Vancouver housing bear.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-59328&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-59322" rel="nofollow">Time Machine</a>: As Yogi Berra once famously said&#8230;&#8221;It&#8217;s tough to make predictions, especially about the future.&#8221; He also once opined that &#8220;it was like deja vu all over again.&#8221; Here are some other Yogi Berrisms:</p>
<p>&#8211;&#8221;You can observe a lot just by watching.&#8221;<br />
&#8211;&#8221;If you don&#8217;t know where you are going, you might wind up someplace else.&#8221;<br />
&#8211;&#8221;The future ain&#8217;t what it used to be.&#8221;</p>
<p>Something tells me that Yogi is a closet Vancouver housing bear.
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		<title>By: Time Machine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Time Machine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You seemed pretty sure of yourself at the time. Use caution before making predictions.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-59322&quot;&gt;-6&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You seemed pretty sure of yourself at the time. Use caution before making predictions.
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		<title>By: Drachen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drachen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My prediction was that it would be falling again by now, but I didn&#039;t expect such strong governmental support and I gave myself a window of time (6 months to a year).  Also, timing is next to impossible to accurately predict as I&#039;ve said many times in the past.

So if it&#039;s falling by spring/summer next year it&#039;s still well within my predicted zone, just outside the point where I could claim 100% accuracy.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-59321&quot;&gt;4&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My prediction was that it would be falling again by now, but I didn&#8217;t expect such strong governmental support and I gave myself a window of time (6 months to a year).  Also, timing is next to impossible to accurately predict as I&#8217;ve said many times in the past.</p>
<p>So if it&#8217;s falling by spring/summer next year it&#8217;s still well within my predicted zone, just outside the point where I could claim 100% accuracy.
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		<title>By: Time Machine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Time Machine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What was your prediction again for this fall?&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-59320&quot;&gt;-2&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What was your prediction again for this fall?
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		<title>By: Drachen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drachen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure if that first link will work properly, I just signed up for the Flikr account just now and don&#039;t really know how it works yet.  Sorry for the triple post.  If the above link doesn&#039;t work use &lt;a href=&quot;http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2804/4118284073_d7faaf8646_o.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this one&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-59317&quot;&gt;-1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure if that first link will work properly, I just signed up for the Flikr account just now and don&#8217;t really know how it works yet.  Sorry for the triple post.  If the above link doesn&#8217;t work use <a href="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2804/4118284073_d7faaf8646_o.jpg" rel="nofollow">this one</a>
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		<title>By: Drachen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drachen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually I guess that was almost two years ago.  My how time flies!&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-59316&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I guess that was almost two years ago.  My how time flies!
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		<title>By: Drachen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drachen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/44841460@N04/4118284073/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here you go Boombust.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-59315&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/44841460@N04/4118284073/" rel="nofollow">Here you go Boombust.</a>
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		<title>By: Boombust</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boombust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I predicted about a year ago when I first composited those two graphs together...&quot;  -Drachen

Can you post it again? I would love to see it.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-59309&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I predicted about a year ago when I first composited those two graphs together&#8230;&#8221;  -Drachen</p>
<p>Can you post it again? I would love to see it.
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		<title>By: ReadyToPop</title>
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		<dc:creator>ReadyToPop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;73 CelicaMan Says:

Little loser boys and trolls will be left holding their little tools, bears, just grit your teeth and be patient.
My strategy lately has been to remove the excess cash from my savings account (after paying rent and bills), and put it into my safety deposit box. This prevents the bank from leveraging it up and loaning it out. I figure if they aren’t going to be prudent about whom they give loans, nor give me a reasonable return for my risk, why should I allow them to use it as they see fit?&lt;/i&gt;

Banks &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; ripping people off...especially seniors who depend on interest income...to do what? Attempt to support inflated house prices and make it &lt;b&gt;harder&lt;/b&gt; for young families to own shelter and force them into bidding wars? Where&#039;s the &quot;anecdotal man&quot;? Tell you what...I&#039;ll make it one of mine.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-59308&quot;&gt;6&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>73 CelicaMan Says:</p>
<p>Little loser boys and trolls will be left holding their little tools, bears, just grit your teeth and be patient.<br />
My strategy lately has been to remove the excess cash from my savings account (after paying rent and bills), and put it into my safety deposit box. This prevents the bank from leveraging it up and loaning it out. I figure if they aren’t going to be prudent about whom they give loans, nor give me a reasonable return for my risk, why should I allow them to use it as they see fit?</i></p>
<p>Banks <i>are</i> ripping people off&#8230;especially seniors who depend on interest income&#8230;to do what? Attempt to support inflated house prices and make it <b>harder</b> for young families to own shelter and force them into bidding wars? Where&#8217;s the &#8220;anecdotal man&#8221;? Tell you what&#8230;I&#8217;ll make it one of mine.
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		<title>By: Drachen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drachen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave:  I believe in graphs, I just don&#039;t believe that by staring cross eyed at a graph (or squinting or whatever it is you think you can do) you can tell the future.  It makes just about as much sense as tea leaves or crystal balls and the science backs that up.

Screwed:  That&#039;s a relatively recent policy, it just demonstrates that they KNOW there&#039;s a good chance of losing money on the above proposition 30% down payment, which is to say the Banks believe that a 30% or more correction is likely.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-59307&quot;&gt;5&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave:  I believe in graphs, I just don&#8217;t believe that by staring cross eyed at a graph (or squinting or whatever it is you think you can do) you can tell the future.  It makes just about as much sense as tea leaves or crystal balls and the science backs that up.</p>
<p>Screwed:  That&#8217;s a relatively recent policy, it just demonstrates that they KNOW there&#8217;s a good chance of losing money on the above proposition 30% down payment, which is to say the Banks believe that a 30% or more correction is likely.
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-59299&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Drachen&lt;/a&gt;: 

I thought you didn&#039;t believe in graphs.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-59306&quot;&gt;-10&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-59299" rel="nofollow">Drachen</a>: </p>
<p>I thought you didn&#8217;t believe in graphs.
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		<title>By: whatthe f@#k</title>
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		<dc:creator>whatthe f@#k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The airwaves are replete with stories leaking out of the spike in vaccine deaths in Manitoba and BC. Apolgists have been out in force to try and explain it away and urge calm while they come up with a saleable explanation. The health Professional I listened to blamed the media for running the story. They&#039;ll only admit to getting a &#039;bad batch&#039; of vaccine.

Thats the Canadian way isn&#039;t it. The information is so persistenly false that some assholes even start believing that what the government says is true. Man people in this country are naive.

My advice, don&#039;t leave the clinic where you get your shot for at least an hour after they inject you. The adverse reactions have been hitting people in the hours after they have had the shot. You don&#039;t want to be found dead in your car.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-59305&quot;&gt;-7&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The airwaves are replete with stories leaking out of the spike in vaccine deaths in Manitoba and BC. Apolgists have been out in force to try and explain it away and urge calm while they come up with a saleable explanation. The health Professional I listened to blamed the media for running the story. They&#8217;ll only admit to getting a &#8216;bad batch&#8217; of vaccine.</p>
<p>Thats the Canadian way isn&#8217;t it. The information is so persistenly false that some assholes even start believing that what the government says is true. Man people in this country are naive.</p>
<p>My advice, don&#8217;t leave the clinic where you get your shot for at least an hour after they inject you. The adverse reactions have been hitting people in the hours after they have had the shot. You don&#8217;t want to be found dead in your car.
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		<title>By: screwed</title>
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		<dc:creator>screwed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was this always the banks policy or was it changed recently? 

So am i screwing myself by saving for 50% downpayment?&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-59304&quot;&gt;7&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was this always the banks policy or was it changed recently? </p>
<p>So am i screwing myself by saving for 50% downpayment?
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		<title>By: Drugs "R" Us</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drugs "R" Us</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess everyone knows what happens when a big earthquake hits.
Whether you have insurance or not doesn&#039;t really matter, as the insurance companies go belly-up anyway. Except this time the insurance company is the government... so we all will be paying the premiums for decades to come to cover the asses of those who fucked up.
UNREAL...&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-59303&quot;&gt;5&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess everyone knows what happens when a big earthquake hits.<br />
Whether you have insurance or not doesn&#8217;t really matter, as the insurance companies go belly-up anyway. Except this time the insurance company is the government&#8230; so we all will be paying the premiums for decades to come to cover the asses of those who fucked up.<br />
UNREAL&#8230;
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that ought to be criminal but i bet nobody&#039;s going to jail for it.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-59302&quot;&gt;5&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that ought to be criminal but i bet nobody&#8217;s going to jail for it.
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		<title>By: pricedoutfornow</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;we prefer when you have a CHMC insurance as our risk is much lower&quot;
Ah ha! I knew it! That&#039;s the question I&#039;ve been wondering all along: Are banks actively encouraging buyers to put down less than 20% because of the CHMC insurance? I suspected as much, only makes sense that they would be more interested in clients with less than 20% downpayment. I guess if you walk into the bank with a couple hundred thousand they&#039;re not so eager for you to be their customer. Makes you think they really know what&#039;s going on here, if RE was really so safe why wouldn&#039;t they jump to give you a good rate on a mortgage with a downpayment of more than 20%?
Oh it&#039;s so ridiculous, the writing&#039;s on the wall, isn&#039;t it?&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-59301&quot;&gt;12&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;we prefer when you have a CHMC insurance as our risk is much lower&#8221;<br />
Ah ha! I knew it! That&#8217;s the question I&#8217;ve been wondering all along: Are banks actively encouraging buyers to put down less than 20% because of the CHMC insurance? I suspected as much, only makes sense that they would be more interested in clients with less than 20% downpayment. I guess if you walk into the bank with a couple hundred thousand they&#8217;re not so eager for you to be their customer. Makes you think they really know what&#8217;s going on here, if <acronym title="Real Estate">RE</acronym> was really so safe why wouldn&#8217;t they jump to give you a good rate on a mortgage with a downpayment of more than 20%?<br />
Oh it&#8217;s so ridiculous, the writing&#8217;s on the wall, isn&#8217;t it?
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		<title>By: domus</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was posted by &#039;German Guy&#039; on Rob Chipman&#039;s blog. 
German Guy did something simple, he went and applied for a mortgage, asking questions about rates and downpayments.

Absolutely great reading, you won&#039;t believe it (Thanks German Guy.....I hope it is OK I re-post your findings!):



I here a lot of talk about how CHMC is the Canadian version of American subprime so since I don’t have much to do in this never ending rainy place, I decided to go and apply for a mortgage to find out what is it all about.
 
First , an interesting link then below a simplified transcript of the conversation with the broker.
http://www.canadianmortgagetrends.com/canadian_mortgage_trends/2009/11/caamps-annual-mortgage-market-report—2009.html
 
I asked for a 5 /35  year fixed rate with min 5% down payement and 5/35 with 300k down as well as a VMR and wanted to know for how much money I would qualify.
 
First , don’t think I am going to buy anything here, it was just a time killing exercise, if anything the terrible never ending rain and dull lifestyle is making me to consider seriously going back home (too bad because summer was nice)
 
So after this disclaimer here are the figures I gave the banker ( those figures are imaginary and have no relation to my real revenue)
 
Gross annual income: 95k, Est. purchase price 800k
Expenses estimated by banker: Monthly heating costs $67; annual taxes $2500, loan/credit card monthly: $360
 
In case of 5/35 with 40k down he qualified me for loan of $538 842  monthly payment $2404 with 4.20 interest rate
 
In case of 5/35 with  300k down he qualified me for a loan of $798 842 with 2534 monthly payment with 4.2 interest rates
 
I asked to get a lower interest rate in the second case where I put a bigger down payment since the bank was not taking as much risk as with the first one.
 
Answer: we take more risk when you put a bigger down payment because your loan does not have to be insured by CMCH, so if anything your interest rate could be higher because the bank is taking more risk. We are not in the business of foreclosing homes and selling to get paid, we prefer when you have a CHMC insurance as our risk is much lower than when you have a pig down payment above 20% of purchase price.
 
I asked for a VMR then, he quoted me a 2.25% interest rate for 35 years and qualified for 665 000 loan with 5% down payment.
I asked if I could put a bigger down payement ?
Answer: No. We will not give you a VMR loan if it is not CHMC insured!
 
I pointed out the absurdity of the situation in his reasoning, with taxpayer taking all the risk and they making risk free profit but all he said was don’t try to fight the government.
So in the end, maybe the Canadian banks are sound after all. They are not keeping any loans on their balance sheets, all risk is taken by CHMC.
As I have stated before, contrary if cracks will appear on the real estate, it will start first on commercial properties and not residential. Or maybe commercial is also CHMC insured? Sorry for long post.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-59300&quot;&gt;27&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was posted by &#8216;German Guy&#8217; on Rob Chipman&#8217;s blog.<br />
German Guy did something simple, he went and applied for a mortgage, asking questions about rates and downpayments.</p>
<p>Absolutely great reading, you won&#8217;t believe it (Thanks German Guy&#8230;..I hope it is OK I re-post your findings!):</p>
<p>I here a lot of talk about how CHMC is the Canadian version of American subprime so since I don’t have much to do in this never ending rainy place, I decided to go and apply for a mortgage to find out what is it all about.</p>
<p>First , an interesting link then below a simplified transcript of the conversation with the broker.<br />
<a href="http://www.canadianmortgagetrends.com/canadian_mortgage_trends/2009/11/caamps-annual-mortgage-market-report—2009.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.canadianmortgagetre.....2009.html</a></p>
<p>I asked for a 5 /35  year fixed rate with min 5% down payement and 5/35 with 300k down as well as a VMR and wanted to know for how much money I would qualify.</p>
<p>First , don’t think I am going to buy anything here, it was just a time killing exercise, if anything the terrible never ending rain and dull lifestyle is making me to consider seriously going back home (too bad because summer was nice)</p>
<p>So after this disclaimer here are the figures I gave the banker ( those figures are imaginary and have no relation to my real revenue)</p>
<p>Gross annual income: 95k, Est. purchase price 800k<br />
Expenses estimated by banker: Monthly heating costs $67; annual taxes $2500, loan/credit card monthly: $360</p>
<p>In case of 5/35 with 40k down he qualified me for loan of $538 842  monthly payment $2404 with 4.20 interest rate</p>
<p>In case of 5/35 with  300k down he qualified me for a loan of $798 842 with 2534 monthly payment with 4.2 interest rates</p>
<p>I asked to get a lower interest rate in the second case where I put a bigger down payment since the bank was not taking as much risk as with the first one.</p>
<p>Answer: we take more risk when you put a bigger down payment because your loan does not have to be insured by CMCH, so if anything your interest rate could be higher because the bank is taking more risk. We are not in the business of foreclosing homes and selling to get paid, we prefer when you have a CHMC insurance as our risk is much lower than when you have a pig down payment above 20% of purchase price.</p>
<p>I asked for a VMR then, he quoted me a 2.25% interest rate for 35 years and qualified for 665 000 loan with 5% down payment.<br />
I asked if I could put a bigger down payement ?<br />
Answer: No. We will not give you a VMR loan if it is not CHMC insured!</p>
<p>I pointed out the absurdity of the situation in his reasoning, with taxpayer taking all the risk and they making risk free profit but all he said was don’t try to fight the government.<br />
So in the end, maybe the Canadian banks are sound after all. They are not keeping any loans on their balance sheets, all risk is taken by CHMC.<br />
As I have stated before, contrary if cracks will appear on the real estate, it will start first on commercial properties and not residential. Or maybe commercial is also CHMC insured? Sorry for long post.
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		<title>By: Drachen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drachen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-59289&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;duru2000&lt;/a&gt;: 

Yeah I love that graph, the funny thing is it lines up nearly perfectly with the Vancouver graph if you put the start at around &#039;86 or &#039;87.  The sell-off/Bear-trap lines up perfectly with the dip in the &#039;90s and even the double camel hump has appeared right on schedule just as I predicted about a year ago when I first composited those two graphs together, it&#039;s scary how typical the pattern is actually, Vancouver is a textbook bubble.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-59299&quot;&gt;10&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-59289" rel="nofollow">duru2000</a>: </p>
<p>Yeah I love that graph, the funny thing is it lines up nearly perfectly with the Vancouver graph if you put the start at around &#8216;86 or &#8216;87.  The sell-off/Bear-trap lines up perfectly with the dip in the &#8217;90s and even the double camel hump has appeared right on schedule just as I predicted about a year ago when I first composited those two graphs together, it&#8217;s scary how typical the pattern is actually, Vancouver is a textbook bubble.
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		<title>By: rubberduckie</title>
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		<dc:creator>rubberduckie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Northeast Canuck:

I almost spewed some coffee out my nose when I read your post &quot;the majority of the properties weren’t fit for human habitation, let alone pets&quot;

I think in my next search, when I get up the guts to move (maybe April?), I&#039;ll do just that.  I&#039;d like to get into a place that&#039;s so nice I won&#039;t feel I&#039;m &quot;waiting&quot; for a correction.

This last year and a half since we sold our condo has been a rental nightmare.  The building is falling apart, the neighbour tenant was crazy (evicted now), and the management company is beyond incompetent.  But it&#039;s cheap and I love the location.  Isn&#039;t life just an annoying series of tradeoffs!&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-59298&quot;&gt;5&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Northeast Canuck:</p>
<p>I almost spewed some coffee out my nose when I read your post &#8220;the majority of the properties weren’t fit for human habitation, let alone pets&#8221;</p>
<p>I think in my next search, when I get up the guts to move (maybe April?), I&#8217;ll do just that.  I&#8217;d like to get into a place that&#8217;s so nice I won&#8217;t feel I&#8217;m &#8220;waiting&#8221; for a correction.</p>
<p>This last year and a half since we sold our condo has been a rental nightmare.  The building is falling apart, the neighbour tenant was crazy (evicted now), and the management company is beyond incompetent.  But it&#8217;s cheap and I love the location.  Isn&#8217;t life just an annoying series of tradeoffs!
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		<title>By: Purp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Purp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“H1N1 vaccine death toll climbs but officials don’t want you to think of it as a roulette wheel (which it is) That shot could easily kill you as many healthy people are finding out.”

- Not True, http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health/h1n1-swine-flu/bc-sees-spike-in-severe-reactions-to-flu-shot/article1367348/

36 serious reactions out of 6.6 million doses and one (unconfirmed) death.  Hardly roulette wheel odds.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-59297&quot;&gt;6&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“H1N1 vaccine death toll climbs but officials don’t want you to think of it as a roulette wheel (which it is) That shot could easily kill you as many healthy people are finding out.”</p>
<p>- Not True, <a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health/h1n1-swine-flu/bc-sees-spike-in-severe-reactions-to-flu-shot/article1367348/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theglobeandmail.com.....le1367348/</a></p>
<p>36 serious reactions out of 6.6 million doses and one (unconfirmed) death.  Hardly roulette wheel odds.
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		<title>By: EB</title>
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		<dc:creator>EB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;H1N1 vaccine death toll climbs but officials don’t want you to think of it as a roulette wheel (which it is) That shot could easily kill you as many healthy people are finding out.&quot;

 I&#039;m sure there&#039;s an appropriate forum somewhere for crazy, unsupported, actively disproven drivel.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-59296&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;H1N1 vaccine death toll climbs but officials don’t want you to think of it as a roulette wheel (which it is) That shot could easily kill you as many healthy people are finding out.&#8221;</p>
<p> I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s an appropriate forum somewhere for crazy, unsupported, actively disproven drivel.
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		<title>By: Northeast Canuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Northeast Canuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#7rubberduckie,

Re the pets &amp; rentals thing.  We encountered the same problem when we moved to Vancouver in the summer.  I couldn&#039;t believe the number of &quot;no pets&quot; listings.  Anyway, it didn&#039;t matter in the end, we viewed tons of properties and whenever we saw one we liked, we mentioned on the way out the door that we had pets.  They all said &quot;OK&quot;.  The joke is that the majority of the properties weren&#039;t fit for human habitation, let alone pets - and these were all houses priced in the $3-4k/mo range.  Unbelievable.

So, my advice to you is never mention pets over the phone, always leave it until after they&#039;ve met you.  If they like you, it won&#039;t be a problem.  That was the advice we were given, and it worked.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-59295&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#7rubberduckie,</p>
<p>Re the pets &amp; rentals thing.  We encountered the same problem when we moved to Vancouver in the summer.  I couldn&#8217;t believe the number of &#8220;no pets&#8221; listings.  Anyway, it didn&#8217;t matter in the end, we viewed tons of properties and whenever we saw one we liked, we mentioned on the way out the door that we had pets.  They all said &#8220;OK&#8221;.  The joke is that the majority of the properties weren&#8217;t fit for human habitation, let alone pets &#8211; and these were all houses priced in the $3-4k/mo range.  Unbelievable.</p>
<p>So, my advice to you is never mention pets over the phone, always leave it until after they&#8217;ve met you.  If they like you, it won&#8217;t be a problem.  That was the advice we were given, and it worked.
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		<title>By: whatthe f@#k</title>
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		<dc:creator>whatthe f@#k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>H1N1 vaccine death toll climbs but officials don&#039;t want you to think of it as a roulette wheel (which it is) That shot could easily kill you as many healthy people are finding out.

I got the same speal from the community health nurse when I asked her about the possible side effects of the poison she was dishing out. When I asked why so many kids seemed to come down with autistic like side effects she said &quot;only one in thousand will have that happen&quot; I said no thanks, I am not a gambler. When she inssited that it benefited everyone I replied &quot;will you guarantee that my kid will be supported by the government if he gets sick&quot; She said no they won&#039;t do that&quot;.


I see those asshole sucking CANUCKS also jumped the que over the necks of children, real heroes.

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/world/story.html?id=2240853&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-59294&quot;&gt;-12&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>I got the same speal from the community health nurse when I asked her about the possible side effects of the poison she was dishing out. When I asked why so many kids seemed to come down with autistic like side effects she said &#8220;only one in thousand will have that happen&#8221; I said no thanks, I am not a gambler. When she inssited that it benefited everyone I replied &#8220;will you guarantee that my kid will be supported by the government if he gets sick&#8221; She said no they won&#8217;t do that&#8221;.</p>
<p>I see those asshole sucking CANUCKS also jumped the que over the necks of children, real heroes.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nationalpost.com/news/world/story.html?id=2240853" rel="nofollow">http://www.nationalpost.com/ne.....id=2240853</a>
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