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February 13th, 2010 at 11:58 am
@Keith in Calgary: haha…..what a fool. Go hide in the corner with Scullboy and RealPaul and weep at the Bitter House.
These people in the games trained their entire life and dedicated their passion for sports and you fools come out spewing garbage.
No matter how sad, sorry and bitter you are, you can’t ruin the millions who tuned in to celebrate the occasion.
February 13th, 2010 at 11:55 am
@Different Now: RealPaul logged into 2 different computers to vote you down. haha…..I can’t imagine someone else voting your post down.
February 13th, 2010 at 11:55 am
@97 “If you ask me, parading a coupe of mentally ill homeless, pushing shopping carts filled with pop cans (Coca Cola, of course) would have been a better representation of Vancouver”
Fair enough. But we then would also then have to include the Yaletown Narcissist for balance. For my money, I’d rather stick to Leonard Cohen and KD Lang. I see too much of those others already.
February 13th, 2010 at 11:40 am
“.. tattooes and tattered clothes are a real representation of Canadian youth culture, whether you like it or not.”
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Part of it, at least. It doesn’t mean we have to be proud of it.
If you ask me, parading a coupe of mentally ill homeless, pushing shopping carts filled with pop cans (Coca Cola, of course) would have been a better representation of Vancouver.
February 13th, 2010 at 10:56 am
Wow. Although I absolutely HATE the IOC and the money being redirected away from citizens, the graft, the corruption, the lies … while money is pouring into these games, education, health care and even sports are on the chopping block in this province. But I honestly thought that there were lots of cultural moments in the piece. As a piece of Canadian propaganda/mythology art on the world stage, I was more or less pleased by it.
So I’m no fan of the Olympics by any stretch …, but I thought the opening ceremonies were a fairly tasteful representation of Canadiana (if you buy into that nationalist stuff). As far as that stuff goes, it was a class act. They resisted the temptation to be too obnoxious, and I actually appreciated the youth component: local poet Shane Coyczan, punk fiddlers — tattooes and tattered clothes are a real representation of Canadian youth culture, whether you like it or not. KD Lang performed one of the best renditions of Leonard Cohen’s Hallelujah you are ever likely to hear. If it brings more people into Leonard Cohen’s music, or KD Lang’s we could do a hell of a lot worse as a nation, artistically. Better people are listening to that than Celine, who was thankfully absent.
Let the Flames begin!
February 13th, 2010 at 10:29 am
Hope that you guys are able to put aside your cynicism for at least a sec and experience what you can of Vancouver during the Olympics. Traffic is so light downtown right now, you wonder why people were ever concerned. I mentioned in a previous post that I was there for the Atlanta games in 96. I was not on the Organizing committee, but due to the nature of my job, I had a pass to pretty much everything except events. I thought it was the ultimate blow-off that I didn’t partake in any of it.
14 years later, as I look back, I gained absolutely nothing by doing so. My friends, on the other hand, have stories and first hand experiences to share and woo.
February 13th, 2010 at 7:29 am
@Keith in Calgary:
I didn’t watch the ceremonies either, but I will watch some of the competitions. I hate the Olympics (I mean the current Fascist edition, not de Coubertin’s concept), which I think is the worst thing that has ever happened to sport, but I have a lot of respect and admiration for many of the competitors.
BTW does anyone remember the World Figure Skating Championships which were held in Vancouver in 2001? You could get an “A” all-event ticket (the entire competition, including the exhibition) for $600. What does that amount of coin get you at the big Owe, to see the same class of athletes?
February 13th, 2010 at 6:53 am
I didn’t watch the opening ceremonies…….nor will I ever watch one single minute of the tripe that is called the Olympics. I cannot wait for the next 15 days to be over……and the utter bullshit to cease.
You see…..I am dying to watch everyones faces when the waiter brings the final cheque………
If you think it is bad now…..I really feel sorry for Rio de Janeiro in 2016, if you think political corruption is bad in BC, you guys ain’t seen nothing yet.
February 13th, 2010 at 5:32 am
#74 REALPAUL
We got the Manager to turn the channel.
EXPLAINS YOUR FRUSTRATION WITH EVERYTHING
February 13th, 2010 at 4:38 am
@chip:
Send in the clowns. You’re the one with the drooling obsession with Krugman, because he was right about your hero, George W. Bush, from day one. Let’s let Dubya speak for himself:
http://bigpicture.typepad.com/.....-bush.html
And that’s all I’m going to say in response to yet another neocon post that can’t be bothered to cite sources. It took me less than a minute to find the above.
February 13th, 2010 at 2:46 am
What an embarassing opening ceremony. Gordo looked nuts. But I guess he has a right to let it all go and party tonight. Its the event that he built his career around. Being the chief cheerleader for this dud is his magnus opus.
Did anyone hear about the athlete that died on the luge? This is truly a disastrous games.
February 13th, 2010 at 1:27 am
” Imagine being able to have a business meeting in Seattle without the hassle of driving or the airport – and to get there in 70 minutes”
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Excpet for the fact you’ll be an hour at the border while they unload the train and interview everyone, like they do at the crossing between Toronto and Chicago…
February 13th, 2010 at 12:56 am
Some of the opening ceremony was cool. I liked the aurora borealis effect. But a lot of it was so overdone and we seemed to be showcasing the world’s biggest inferiority complex. I mean, all that nationalistic bullshit. That’s not patriotism, it’s just a bunch of smoke up the ass! So much for our reputation for modesty. I think we burned that one in the last week or so. Now if they only had some viagra for that torch!
February 13th, 2010 at 12:00 am
Patriotz, you really talk a lot of tosh.
Your drooling obsession with Krugman is but one example. Sure like many others he saw a bubble coming, but he’s also the clown who wrote in 2008 that “Fannie and Freddie had nothing to do with the explosion of high-risk lending” and “didn’t do any subprime lending.”
That’s because Krugman is a hyperpartisan hack who never saw a government program that didn’t make him groan with pleasure.
And how the frig was Bush a prime mover of the housing bubble? Did he control interest rates, tell the rating agencies to trip the light fantastic, and ask Barney Frank and other members of the Congressional Finance Committee to “roll the dice” on yet more Fannie/Freddie largesse?
Hyper-political people like yourself make for the most insufferable dinner party guests. Lighten up, you’ll have more friends.
February 12th, 2010 at 11:46 pm
oh yeaah slappys! owelimpics here! nelly furtardo look fertile! your film industry been terminated! saw BDK chasing Gretsky down seemour street!
February 12th, 2010 at 11:14 pm
@observer: Agreed – all forms of non-automobile transportation infrastructure are needed. High speed rail will do amazing things for the BC economy. Imagine being able to have a business meeting in Seattle without the hassle of driving or the airport – and to get there in 70 minutes…
February 12th, 2010 at 11:10 pm
@Supraboy:
That’s the great thing with ‘buy now pay later’. None of us has payed for it.. yet.
February 12th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
btw, about Realpaul, guess what:
47 X crabman Says:
February 12th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
@Supraboy: Hahaha, I’ll be at the opening ceremonies in a few hours. Of course, my tickets are subsidized by my landlord! It’s you bitter owners that have to watch on TV!!!!!
I think Realpaul should make crabman eat it since he’s the one who went to this billion dollar event.
RealPaul: Man did that suck !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did you also catch the rip off parellels of Gandalf, Cirque,West Side Story and The Wizard of OZ?????? Holy Fuck, did we pay 7 billion for that???????? Punk Fiddlers ?????????? Bouncing Polar Bears???????? Cheesy Canuck lights projectong cut outs on the floor.
February 12th, 2010 at 11:07 pm
@Chilled: You have a point.
February 12th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
@Supraboy:
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February 12th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
@realpaul: This realpaul guy is very negative.
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I wouldn’t call Realpaul negative, but rather a ‘frustrated realist.’
February 12th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
@realpaul: This realpaul guy is very negative. He can’t sit back and just relax. The olympics is a celebration of athletes, not about your negativity. So what if they spent billions. Not like you paid for any of it.
February 12th, 2010 at 10:17 pm
strike that, it rains too much for solar panels.
February 12th, 2010 at 10:15 pm
if we were the greenest games, the torch would be made of LEDs hooked up to solar panels
February 12th, 2010 at 10:15 pm
#75
I thought she looked more like Alec Baldwin.
February 12th, 2010 at 10:12 pm
Is Gretzky driving all the way to Whistler to light this fucker?
February 12th, 2010 at 10:07 pm
Is it just me, or did KD Lang look exactly like Micheal Buble?
February 12th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
#72 bpom, the condemnation of the sad freaky mess that was the opening ceremony has gone viral. OMG what an embarrassment!!!! Duelling tap -off ?????? WTF was that?? Does any CDN have a clue what that joke was all about????
Man did that suck !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did you also catch the rip off parellels of Gandalf, Cirque,West Side Story and The Wizard of OZ?????? Holy Fuck, did we pay 7 billion for that???????? Punk Fiddlers ?????????? Bouncing Polar Bears???????? Cheesy Canuck lights projectong cut outs on the floor.
I was in a crowd of people who said it made them sick. We got the Manager to turn the channel.
February 12th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
its a celebration of BC bud, the torch looks like a bunch of joints. And we only get 3 out of 4.
February 12th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
Jesus Christ, can we just move on to Corey Hart lighting the flame and wrap this up already?
This has been painfully long and boring.
February 12th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
Anyone see the the Governor General get caught napping on TV? hahaa……that’s the funniest chit ever.
February 12th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
BREAKING NEWS: Rich foreigners are said to be mesmerized by the unique Vancouver lifestyle experience of skiing (on dirt) in the morning, and golfing (in the rain) after lunch.
February 12th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
What? Bunch of morons with nothing else better to do in life?
That’s exactly what I was thinking about all those people lining up for hours just to see a torch.
February 12th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
@crabman:
haha….what a fool. I got more tickets to olympic events than you, that’s for sure.
Anyways, did you run into those idiotic protesters? Bunch of morons trying to stir up nonsense because they got nothing else better to do in life.
February 12th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
“The same Arnold who declared war on BC’s film industry.”
And the same Arnold whose state is technically insolvent. It seems fitting he carry the torch for an event that is associated with so much debt.
February 12th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
The simpsons are coming to Vancouver in their next episode on Sunday. Any bets Homer and Marge buy a house? If they don’t buy one now, next time they come for a visit they’ll be priced out forever.
February 12th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
It was touching to see the massive crowds come out to see Arnold carrying the torch today.
The same Arnold who declared war on BC’s film industry.
People in this city are dumber than retarded monkeys.
February 12th, 2010 at 7:03 pm
Funny hearing the talk on the tele today about the Olympics and international “unity”. All the while I hear the fighter jets scratch the sky overhead. I guess “unity” is the flow of foreign capital into this city that has mercilessly pushed out the middle class…the Native Sons who were born here…and nary a policy-maker to defend them. Suddenly I can relate to the First Nations folks as they dance in their colourful dress.
February 12th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
The arrogant baby rapers who enjoy IOC membership think nothing of murdering old ladies in thier own countries. We let these scum into Canada thinking that the ‘Olympic Family’ has something to do with ‘fresh faced atheletes from good middle class families’ and this is a complete fallacy. Nothing could be further from the truth.
The UN, which is made of of 99% of countries which have shown a complete disdain for human rights are the beneficiaries of the ‘OLYMPIC’ largesse. This money is graft that filled the coffers of some of the most disreputable and murderous regimes on the planet.
When you support the Olympics you are really just funnelling money to killers, rapists and thugs from third world countries that would kill you if you accidentally found yourself under thier influence.
February 12th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
@Drachen:
I agree “rule” is not the right term, as that is usually understood to be some norm of behaviour imposed by authority or some plan or procedure.
It’s an objective fact.
February 12th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
@patriotz:
I don’t know if I’d call that the basic rule of capitalism. In my books it would read more like, “People and businesses are responsible for their own finances, for better or worse.”
What you quoted as the basic rule of capitalism is more like the basic rule of intelligent investing, something Warren Buffett might adhere to.
It is observably not the way in which capitalism actually works, so I don’t see how you can call it the ‘basic rule’.
February 12th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
@White Payer:
Let’s not forget the ultimate irony.
If you try to explain to someone the basic rule of capitalism – that the value of capital derives from the income that it produces, i.e. a house is really only worth its rental value and no more, and that the present prices are being inflated by government intervention, you are accused of being a “socialist”.
February 12th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
@patriotz:
Excuse me. Second paragraph should start:
Translation: “I won’t be able to get away with claiming that Gore said he had invented the internet,”…
February 12th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
@vancouver2010Disgrace:
“Al Gore DID claim to create the internet. Here you can see him say as much in his own words in a sit down interview on CNN.”
Translation: “I won’t be able to get away with claiming that Gore invented the internet, so I’ll come up with a subjective interpretation of what Gore actually said (which I won’t bother to quote), to wit, that he claimed to create the internet”.
“You and I both know that’s not what Al Gore meant.”
Translation: “I know everything, do not need any reference to objective sources, and anyone who disagrees with me is lying.”
“You people are deluding yourselves if you think that Al Gore created the internet or did not really mean to claim that he did during his election campaign.”
Translation: “You are crazy if you don’t think like me.”
And you STILL haven’t bothered to offer a single quote of anything Gore actually said.
Classic neocon debating tactics. Lame.
February 12th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
B.C. signs on to high-speed rail between San Diego and Vancouver
Finally some stimulus that makes sense. But what about Evergreen and better transit for GVRD? We need a couple more Canada lines before we can call ourselves a world class city rather than a resort city.
February 12th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
@patriotz:
WAC Bennet DID create BC Hydro, the company. You people are deluding yourselves if you think that Al Gore created the internet or did not really mean to claim that he did during his election campaign.
February 12th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
@White Payer:
Note that Paul Krugman, who was probably the most widely read economist to have been right about the US housing bubble, said much the same thing in 2000:
http://www.nytimes.com/2000/11.....witch.html
He was talking about the presidential campaign of George Bush, who of course was one of the prime movers of the US housing bubble, among other disasters.
Now just wait – someone is going to pop up and claim that Krugman was a bubble denier.
February 12th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
@vancouver2010Disgrace:
http://www.citizensforpublicpo.....government
Agree or disagree?
Was WAC Bennett an electrical engineer?
February 12th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
Video of the crash is here
Looks like terrible course design to me, it would only take a few dozen sheets of plexiglass to cover the gaps so he’d have hit at an angle instead of straight on at 90 kph.
February 12th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
beautiful example piece of propaganda to urge immigrants to move to California, 1876
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wi....._world.jpg
February 12th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
@Different Now:
definition of propaganda:
“Propaganda is a form of communication aimed at influencing the attitude of a community toward some cause or position. As opposed to impartially providing information, propaganda in its most basic sense, presents information primarily to influence an audience. Propaganda often presents facts selectively (thus possibly lying by omission) to encourage a particular synthesis, or uses loaded messages to produce an emotional rather than rational response to the information presented. The desired result is a change of the attitude toward the subject in the target audience to further a political agenda.”
One of the important parts here is lying by omission…