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February 16th, 2010 at 9:57 pm
Don’t get mad at Dave. He’s still smarting from the CMHC bombshell and is taking out his frustration on the homeless.
February 16th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
rp: Next time you’re in London go across the Thames and check out the Museum of Torture. Then you’ll understand how these twisted pricks ran an empire.
Realpaul: I think you should stop holding back and tell us how you really feel.
Enough of the wishy-washy, fence-sitting, politician bullshit.
February 16th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
Most of our bad press so far (aside from when we killed that guy and blamed him for it) has been coming from the British media. They are incredibly biased. The 2012 London games are coming and they are even more haphazard than we are. I’ve been on their “tube”. It was like a ferris wheel – start and stop, start and stop. Not at stations mind you, we were just stuck in various places for 5 minutes at a time. I’m sure it was impressive in the 19th century! How these people ever ran an empire is beyond me. I can only imagine it was done with many steam powered contraptions exploding all around them.
February 16th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
The deniers and the Vanocksuckers damage control units are on full spin cycle. They disagree with the Telegraph, the Guardian, the Daily Mail (all commie leftist rags according to Dave and the Newfie bumboy reverse refugee thrall and failed fry cook scullboy) CBC, NBC and ABC have all been negative on the Vancock Games fiasco. I guess David Letterman is a communist too eh Dave ?
CBC surprised me but then I figured out that they are not dependant on advertisers promises, weird spin on that ticket. They finally prove themselves useful. When even the CBC can’t stand the bullshit you know that something BIG is up.
David Letterman had to say something about the sleazy chezzy way that the Vancock spinsters have tried to blame the Luge guy for his own death. That was really disgraceful.
That totally dumb fuck Greggy Robertson-Dipshit Boy Finger puppet mayor of The No Vision Vanshithole Party comes out today and blames everything wrong on …get this …THUGS and ….GLOBAL WARMING Bwahahahahahahahahahahahah OMG I’m gonna crap myself.
The temperatures are bang on average for Vanshit this time of year….no deviation. And this little hole starts back down the Global Warming rabbit hole? hasn’t his puppet masters been reading any of the evidence that the entire push for global warming has been exposed as a giant farce!!!!! I posted an article by the Washington Post just this morning.
Hey Dave, is the Washington Post a pinko rag with a hard on for Vanshithole too? Woodwards and Berstein ring a bell? Watergate???????
Yeah Dave I want something back too, lets start with my 7 BILLLLLLLLLLION DOLLLLLLLars of wasted money that could have fed the hungry, opened libraries, put text books in the schools, made a few patients less likely to die in the hospital hallway, built some seniors homes built another university, lowered tuitions, made the HST a no go etc etc etc.
In ‘Davespeak’ I say to you…’Are you mental?’
February 16th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
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February 16th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
@realpaul:
The Olympics are probably going to be a waste of money. If I had to choose between wasting money on Olympics or DTES, I’ll pick the Olympics. At least I get something back.
February 16th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
No rich asians up at whistler this olympics … just whitey
February 16th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
@64304″>bestplaceonmeth:
I don’t know the fucktards throwing newspaper boxes through store windows are pretty much are to blame for the increase in security measures. I know people are angry at the tar sands but dressing up in black and vandalizing storefronts in the middle of the day is a pretty stupid thing to do.
Now the forces that be just have to point to this incident and say see we needed all this security and we intend to keep these cameras just to keep an eye on the trouble makers.
February 16th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
lol, dave is such an ignorant fool.
February 16th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
I’ve been hearing more horror stories about the behaviour of the private security personnel “guarding” the Olympics, some of it from close associates who witness it firsthand.
Apparently these hired goons were hired on 3 weeks notice and were given very limited training, from the RCMP manual no less.
You have to wonder why the security budget is a staggering 900 million dollars, I mean what self respecting terrorist gives a shit about womens hockey or the giant slalom.
Then I read this from the security company itself:
>>>Mark Lalonde of Canpro Global Services says he’s more than doubled his staff of 220 to provide high-level protection for host broadcaster CTV, more than a dozen Olympic sponsors and visiting entertainment and sports celebrities.
Lalonde says their main concern isn’t terrorism but the potential for protesters to use global media coverage of the Olympics to make a point at the expense of corporate sponsors.<<<
http://www.ctvolympics.ca/abou.....27912.html
Man, that's chilling. The Gestapo is here to protect Coca Cola.
February 16th, 2010 at 7:35 pm
So Dave, you are saying tha you disagree with the majority of British Columbians who were polled recently and said that the Olympic game were wasting money? These people are all leeches to you? Whys that, because you have bigger bills than you can handle and you need to sell condos or you end up in some east coast shitlick like scully?
I’m confused, you are saying I’m a leftist and your bumboy is saying I’m anti-union, you two should con fab over at vanfan 2010 and get your stories straight.
Even the CBC is reporting that the Vanoc Games are the biggest fuck up ever. Don’t dump on the international press just because they have exposed you as a denier and a liar.
You seem to have a name for everyone that disagrees with your twisted POV. Theres a name for people like you.
February 16th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
@daeset: I take that back, the original link got screwed somehow. apologies!
February 16th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
12% of Canadians believe this is the worst Olympic games in history.
I have to agree.
February 16th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
@domus: Your link is to the page of the FT. Could you link to the piece itself,
actually if you click the link, it will take you directly to the article but here is the fully exposed URL:
http://blogs.ft.com/money-supp.....ng-market/
February 16th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
@daeset:
DAESET 84
It sounds like an article worth reading. Your link is to the page of the FT. Could you link to the piece itself, or give the title so that I can search it?
February 16th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
scullboy and dave, what pair, birds of a feather as they say. Dumb and dumber others would call it. both raving deniers. one with an axe to grind the other having been pushed into a toilet and can’t get himself out bwahahahahaahahahahahahahaaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! as RP says
I’m siding with the international press on the Olympic issue and the sane people who have the guts to make thier views heard on the public denial of issues in Shitcouver.
February 16th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
Interesting article about the Canadian housing bubble on the Financial Times website: http://www.ft.com
here’s an excerpt:
One measure of the “underlying supply/demand fundamentals” of housing is the amount home prices rise relative to rental prices. In normal times they rise at roughly the same rate. In the US, house prices rose over 100 per cent between 2000 and the peak of the housing market in 2007, according to the 20-city Case Shiller index, while rental prices grew just 24 per cent. By contrast, in Canada rental prices rose 11 per cent from 2000 to 2008, while the price of a houses in the Teranet 6-city composite index rose 85 per cent over the same time.
February 16th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
Flaherty just confirmed my fears:
‘Reckless’ speculators get a cold shower
http://www.theglobeandmail.com.....le1470418/
“…At the same time, Mr. Flaherty acknowledged that even though most lenders already ask mortgage-seekers if they plan to live in the home they’re trying to buy, they’re not always sure they get an accurate response. The new rule is “not easy to administer but it’s not impossible either,” he said…”
Also interesting is that finally somebody is raising the issue of CMHC insuring (i.e. subsidizing) the loans of RE investors and speculators.
Here is Royal LePage chief executive officer Phil Soper:
This has some suggesting in the industry suggesting CMHC should get out of insuring investment properties altogether.
“CMHC isn’t in the business of helping businesses prosper through investing in real estate,” said Mr. Soper.
“Their goal is to help Canadians own a principal residence. Their role should be muted, and so it seems rational to make these changes.”
Exactly! The stated (original) role of CMHC was to help Canadians to own their main residence. What it accomplished was an increase in valuations that mde RE even harder to obtain (typical distortionary effect of subsidization). But now we are at the pure farcical consclusion of this saga: the CMHC is actually subsidizing speculation and multiple onwership, reducing affordability for first time buyers!
The politicians are silent about this scam. It is one of the biggest scams in this country, worth literally billions of dollars every year. The distortion is huge, the efficiency loss is massive: we need to ABOLISH the CMHC! It is the biggest obstacle to a functioning RE market.
Write to your MPs! Let them know you want to scrap the CMHC and you are aware of this scam!
February 16th, 2010 at 6:16 pm
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Hell, neither Dave nor Real Paul is ever “wrong” despite having factual information presented which is contrary to their views….
I guess its it the competitive blogging spirit of always having to be “right”….
February 16th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
Why do Realpauls personal, childish attacks v Dave get green arrows while Daves reasoned response receive red arrows? I am a housing bear, but the personal attacks are ridiculas. Dave always keeps a leveled head. I would be embarrassed when re reading your posts, Realpaul. Also, its common knowledge the Guardian is left wing.
February 16th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
As stupid as Supraboy sounds, he actually sounds exactly like the majority of people I work with. They all think the world is going to want to move here because we’re having some nice weather.
Apparently incomes, employment, jobs, taxes, prices, the economy isn’t what we should be focused on. Apparently it’s meteorology that dictates why people live where they do.
Interesting… make sure no one tells the world about San Diego, Miami, Phoenix etc.. I hear they get sunshine too on occasion. Slightly cheaper to live than here too.
It’s the Weather stupid! lol
February 16th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
@Dave:
“Wow, a torch didn’t get up. Everything else went well and was positively received. ”
Except for….. you know…. the dead guy.
Don’t get me wrong dude…. I *LOVE* the face that you called Grampy Tinfoil and “extreme left wing socialist”. COnsidering how much Grampy hates unions I figured this is just about the worst name you could pull out of a hat. Well done!
I’m guessing from the tone on the board y’all are feeling a little over-partied or something. Everyone seems pretty stressed. I have to admit the best view of the Olympics is probably from my couch in Halifax…
Ah well, I’m off to make a gorgeous scallop chowder. I have to do something with the extra lobster stock. Pound for pound lobster seems to be about the same price as chicken this way. it’s bad for the fishermen, but great for the chefs!
February 16th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
London’s bid also included similar measures. It may not have been part of the formal bid but its knock-on effects of revitalisation of East London were being heavily promoted by all levels of government in the lead-up to the IOC vote.
Similar announcements were made by Canadian politicians for Vancouver 2010. Anyone who claims the Olympics have nothing to do with the DTES is wrong.
There have been minor DTES funding announcements. It is unlikely these announcements would have been any less without the Olympics. The protesters’ complaints have to do with the amount of funding and planning being far too low from what they thought was “promised”.
February 16th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
Dave, Dave, Dave…
“The Olympics have nothing to do with the DTES. ”
The homeless issue, represented by the DTES, was supposed to be tackled as part of the bid to hold the Olympics. It was DIRECTLY linked to the event. The whole push to open and redevelop SROs was part of the Olympic pledge.
So you see, you are clearly, and utterly wrong on this one my little Vancouver cheerleader…
February 16th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
72 Dave
“The Olympics have nothing to do with the DTES”
Ummm – check your facts before you lose it on crazy RP.
Instituting affordably housing that would address, in part. the downtown eastside WAS actually part of the Olympic bid. All those crazy protestors linking the Olympics to the DTES actually have a point….
Personally, I don’t think that VANOC should have linked the two together, but that is what they did. And they have not followed through on their Olympic promise…
So rant on RP, despite the fact that I ignore you most of the time…
February 16th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
@Dave:
I agree with you. Which is why I applaud Flaherty’s announcement today. I don’t want my future tax dollars being used to pay out claims on imprudent speculative purchases via CMHC.
February 16th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
@Dave:
I actually agree with you for once.
February 16th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
@jesse:
Well if it were just a transparent economic issue the market rate would be what matters, not the posted rate which is just a negotiating position. But I guess if the motivation is to squash the bubble which they don’t want to talk about, using the posted rate gives the greatest effect for a given amount of political capital.
February 16th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
@realpaul:
Are you mental? Rhetorical… The Guardian is very left wing. Why would you claim otherwise? Bizarre.
We have shovelled money into the DTES. Lots has been done. There are limits to how much money we can shovel into a problem. I am sick of dummies trying to lobby government about how they want MY tax money spent. Most of the people complaining are leeches on our government to begin with and they are a net cost to government because they don’t pull their own weight. If they really wanted to help fix the problems, they would become more productive and direct their energies into local initiatives that actually help people.
The Olympics have nothing to do with the DTES. It doesn’t take away from it in any way. It’s a ridiculous connection to make and extreme left wing socialists like yourself are the ones making it.
February 16th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
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Pathetic comeback blinder boy…
“So they could look at the positives instead of the negatives that losers like yourself like to focus on. Vanoc could do things 99% perfect and dummies like yourself would still complain about something.”
They were being generous – they forgot about the 20 minute delay in singing the national anthem because the native “heads of state” were late, the sleeping governor general caught on tape, the fact that the OC portrayed us as a land of drum beating natives who only eat salmon and play with polar bears…
Oh, and I forgot that news should always focus on the bright side….because clearly that is what you see when you open the pages in the morning….
Face it, the FACTS of the OC were presented – you may not like them, but the events that they cited did occur…
February 16th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
It’s great that we OWN THE PODIUM and all, but why do the Americans and Germans keep standing on it?
It really is better to rent.
February 16th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
#65 D, I repeat, you are such a douche. I read the Guardian daily when in London and ocasionally here. The fact that they have reported the truth about Vanshitstain really has the local organ grinders up in arms. But that phony response is strictly for local consumption.
As was pointed out you must also think that Rupert Murdoch and all the other scathing reports by the international news media is what ‘ganging up’? Did ABC do the bed bug infestation story because they are ‘ganging up’
Did the german media who got into Rich Colemans face about why nothing had been done about the DTES have ‘an agenda’?
Sorry DDDDDDDDDave but ‘bitches and throwing horseshoes’ are for inmates. Are you feeling like an inmate Dave. Maybe you’re waking up to the BS?
Can you really justify spending 7 billion for a medal? Can you possibly overlook the seniors standing in line at the foodbank today? Are you one of those who believes gordon Campbell when he say “The mentally ill people are choosing to live outside”. What kind of fuck up can not see through this crap?
Heres a story on an even bigger attempted tax heist. Do you enjoy having your money stolen from you?
http://www.washingtontimes.com.....o-unravel/
February 16th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
@patriotzed: Why would CMHC use market rate? Is there even a transparent market for mortgages and does CMHC have access to this data? Just curious.
February 16th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Why is everyone so testy today? The tightening of mortgage insurance approval requirements is no surprise. The government has to look after its own rear end from time to time, even if it’s a bit late to the pitch.
It’s almost a certainty CMHC will use posted rates, not discounted rates, to govern approval criteria. Why? I’m sure most of you can guess but it’s because when it comes time for renewal and your income has changed for the worse, nobody else will approve you, even at a higher rate. The bank you’re with will only give you posted rates at best because you have nowhere else to go. CMHC intimately knows how the game works and needs to plan accordingly.
February 16th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
@best_place_on_meth:
I would think the mortgages would have to be approved on the basis of the best 5 year rate available to the buyer, which is the market rate (rather than the posted rate).
February 16th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
@realpaul:
Realdummy, you don’t know what you are talking about. The Guardian would only be considered conservative from the point of view of a hard core communist.
Another gold bitches…
February 16th, 2010 at 4:12 pm
Question,
When Flaherty says that banks must approve mortgages based on the 5 year fixed term, is that the posted rate of 5.39% or the typical discounted rate of 4.09%?
It makes a big difference.
February 16th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
I wonder if ALL the ticket funds from people who get screwed on this Olympics will ever be even close to refunded?
Will the people who paid more than market for scalped tickets on Vanocs scalper site get the full refund or only the face value. What about all those poor suckers who got ripped off by Vanocs santioned brokers in the US?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20.....9seW1waWM-
This will go down as the games with the biggest black eye ever!!!!!
February 16th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
@Dave:
OK Dave, here something from the Times of London. You know, the paper that Rupert Murdoch owns:
http://www.metronews.ca/toront.....pic-snafus
February 16th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
#57 Dave, you are such a douche, the reporters from the Guardian have been reporting onsite and the Guardian is a very conservative paper. It is actually a capitalist medium and very pointed on its stand against the strident socialist whacko’s. I suggest you read it and not simply regurgitate the anxiety of Gordon Campbell. The truth about Vanshithouse is getting out and the local apologists look like fools trying to deny it.
February 16th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
@Transparent:
So they could look at the positives instead of the negatives that losers like yourself like to focus on. Vanoc could do things 99% perfect and dummies like yourself would still complain about something.
Wow, a torch didn’t get up. Everything else went well and was positively received.
The weather is perfect and it’s sunny all week. Get out and enjoy life.
February 16th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
#55 right you are to point this out. The international media has been dumping on Vanshithouse and the Mickey Duck nature of the games organization and Orwellian Coverups of the local politicians since they got here.
Many locals are unable to understand that there is a world outside of the FartBubble of the Canadian media.
a) the local media is run by local advertisers
b) the local advertisers have a vested intrest in getting you to think that everything is as they say it is so that you continue to blindly turn over your money.
The new spin on Canada’s failure to ‘own the podium’ is coming in big tear buckets. They are droning the catchphrase ‘disappoint and respect’ over and over. This concept is to make you empathize with the losing side and not begin to think about how the previuos hype got your expectations running hot. You are now being steered towards other emotional values.
The mayor now say “We’ll follow up AFTER the games” in other words they have no success to actually prove exist.
The jerkoffs at Vanoc are blaming the atheletes.
Meanwhile I watched wipe out after wipeout on the hills this morning due to a poorly designed track. Vanoc blames the weather.
Excuse me? The temperatures right now are exactly average for February. The entire premise of the games has been based on obfuscation and lies.
Stephen Colbert said it right when he asked,
“Maybe when they decided that the games should be held in Shitcouver, some one could have asked if it snows up there in February” LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Hey gang, I know its hard not to support your side and the whole tribal thing but this whole Olympics hype has been nothing but lies and people trying to manipulate you.
And if you think the excuses and apologies are thick now…..just wait, you ain’t seen nothing yet.
February 16th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
“If they were real journalists, they would actually get their asses here in town.”
Why? So they can see the FACTUAL screw-ups in person?
What, being here and seeing the failure to have the four torches rise at the OC; seeing the death of the Georgian; seeing the rain washed unsafe slopes of Cyprus; seeing the absence of sufficient public transit; or seeing the faces of those whose tickets were cancelled makes for better reporting?
Or to see the nice sunny weather, which makes are those FACTUAL events disappear…
Oh, by the way, I forgot that newspapers NEVER string facts together about events in another country and write news pieces…the Guardian staff must the first ones to do this…
February 16th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
@bearsince08:
The Guardian is a socialist rag with an agenda. They are probably making a push to unionize the games in London in 2012.
If they were real journalists, they would actually get their asses here in town.
Pathetic.
February 16th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
richasian (#49) – If you were replying to my question, thank you. Thank you for the part where you don’t judge me. And that other part, you are doing it wrong: I am not a huge fan of being a slave; I am not earning megabucks, I see no difference between renting from a bank and renting from a human, ergo I am not in the market and feeling good.
February 16th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
International Media: “WORST OLYMPIC GAMES EVER?”
http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/oly.....;type=lgns
February 16th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
I guess even Grampy Tinfoil’s right once in a while:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com…..le1469927/
“‘This should have a limited impact on what I see daily,’ mortgage broker Peter Majthenyi said ”
By a startling coincidence this dirtbag tried to sell me a mortgage a few years back when I was shopping for my first home. The gist of it was he could arrange for 105% of the purchase price.
The devil was in the details, however. I found a less disreputable broker who pointed out I’d have spent an extra $50,000 over the course of the mortgage had I gone with that product.
Weird to hear that name again…..
February 16th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
Bear real estate prediction olympic medal count : 0 Gold, 0 Bronze, 0 Silver
Bull real estate prediction olympic medal count : 1 Gold, 0 Bronze, 0 Silver
So I guess we could say that the bulls “own the podium” and the bears continue to rent.
February 16th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
@averagejoe86:
I agree that BC is going to crash and burn, but it’s not really about BC. There are only a couple of ridings in the province that change hands between the Cons and the Liberals, so the fallout is not going to amount to much in the big picture.
What the Cons are really worried about is a BC-style crash and burn in metro Toronto, particularly in “905″ (outside City of Toronto). This is where federal elections are decided. I think they are trying to engineer a “soft landing” in that region (by which I mean a descent not exceeding 10% annually), and given it’s about 40% cheaper than Vancouver that just might happen, if there isn’t a double dip from south of the border. But that’s a big “if”.
February 16th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Flaherty is either a liar or incompetent! He has to step down however it may be too late. The bubble is going to burst after the Olympics