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		<title>By: No Longer Looking</title>
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		<dc:creator>No Longer Looking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vancouver home resales decline rapidly MOM while they&#039;re flat or growing in most of the rest of Canada. 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vancouversun.com/business/Home+resales+decline+February+with+biggest+drop+Vancouver/2684675/story.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.vancouversun.com/business/Home+resales...&lt;/a&gt;  
 
We have hit the ceiling and are bouncing off. &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-66501&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vancouver home resales decline rapidly MOM while they&#039;re flat or growing in most of the rest of Canada.</p>
<p>  <a href="http://www.vancouversun.com/business/Home+resales+decline+February+with+biggest+drop+Vancouver/2684675/story.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.vancouversun.com/business/Home+resales" rel="nofollow">http://www.vancouversun.com/business/Home+resales</a>&#8230;  </p>
<p>We have hit the ceiling and are bouncing off.
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		<title>By: onehorse</title>
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		<dc:creator>onehorse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, that&#039;s right nutslaps! In the city&#039;s real estate prices and fundamental imbalance. No matter what Dave said that wages have not kept pace with inflation. Rent may rise, but not in the same order of magnitude, renewable energy prices. Now buy a house is a brick tied to the ball, shut it down buildings. onehorse said: &quot;Now purchase, you are a fool&quot; &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-66491&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, that&#039;s right nutslaps! In the city&#039;s real estate prices and fundamental imbalance. No matter what Dave said that wages have not kept pace with inflation. Rent may rise, but not in the same order of magnitude, renewable energy prices. Now buy a house is a brick tied to the ball, shut it down buildings. onehorse said: &quot;Now purchase, you are a fool&quot;
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		<title>By: vreaa</title>
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		<dc:creator>vreaa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 07:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-66468&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;superduperbulltime&lt;/a&gt;: &quot;It&#8217;s clear to me that bear despondency has peaked.&quot; 
 
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The frothing at the mouth bulls really have no understanding of markets. 
When the bears are despondent or even capitulate, the bulls should get scared of a market top, but they see it as some sort of victory. 
 
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PS Good posts re the central importance of housing in our economy, bubbly, thanks. It&#039;s sick! The cure will be painful. &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-66480&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-66468" rel="nofollow">superduperbulltime</a>: &quot;It&rsquo;s clear to me that bear despondency has peaked.&quot;</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>The frothing at the mouth bulls really have no understanding of markets.</p>
<p>When the bears are despondent or even capitulate, the bulls should get scared of a market top, but they see it as some sort of victory.</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>PS Good posts re the central importance of housing in our economy, bubbly, thanks. It&#039;s sick! The cure will be painful.
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		<title>By: rp</title>
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		<dc:creator>rp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 00:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-66468&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;superduperbulltime&lt;/a&gt;: Despondency?  This is downright entertaining now.  At first I was very amused, then I was concerned, then I was very concerned, but now I&#039;m watching it all with great interest.  How high can it go, I wonder?   This is better than the Olympics. 
 
If a Vancouver special hits $10M I will smile and cheer it on.  You really can&#039;t change anyone&#039;s mind at this point.  Everything has been said.  People are going to do what they&#039;re going to do, myself included, and for that our fates are sealed.  I&#039;m simply here for the spectacle now.  I think this is the biggest housing bubble in the western world, and like the Olympics, I don&#039;t think Vancouver will disappoint. 
 
So here&#039;s to a great 2010.  Let us hold no grudges nor say I told you so if such a time should come.  I wish everyone good health. &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-66472&quot;&gt;16&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-66468" rel="nofollow">superduperbulltime</a>: Despondency?  This is downright entertaining now.  At first I was very amused, then I was concerned, then I was very concerned, but now I&#039;m watching it all with great interest.  How high can it go, I wonder?   This is better than the Olympics.</p>
<p>If a Vancouver special hits $10M I will smile and cheer it on.  You really can&#039;t change anyone&#039;s mind at this point.  Everything has been said.  People are going to do what they&#039;re going to do, myself included, and for that our fates are sealed.  I&#039;m simply here for the spectacle now.  I think this is the biggest housing bubble in the western world, and like the Olympics, I don&#039;t think Vancouver will disappoint.</p>
<p>So here&#039;s to a great 2010.  Let us hold no grudges nor say I told you so if such a time should come.  I wish everyone good health.
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		<title>By: superduperbulltime</title>
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		<dc:creator>superduperbulltime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s clear to me that bear despondency has peaked. How could it not? The real estate market continues to go up at a rapid pace and they&#039;ve lost their chance forever. &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-66468&quot;&gt;-25&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s clear to me that bear despondency has peaked. How could it not? The real estate market continues to go up at a rapid pace and they&#039;ve lost their chance forever.
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		<title>By: Mark Downs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Downs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out this old NFB documentary: CMHC deals with blight in the downtown eastside... in 1964! 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2xdYUk4iAY&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2xdYUk4iAY&lt;/a&gt; &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-66466&quot;&gt;4&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out this old NFB documentary: CMHC deals with blight in the downtown eastside&#8230; in 1964!</p>
<p>  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2xdYUk4iAY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2xdYUk4iAY</a>
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		<title>By: Drachen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drachen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-66461&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;observer&lt;/a&gt;:  
 
It&#039;s turning now.  Inventory is the leading indicator and it&#039;s even more traumatic than &#039;08. 
 
In 08 prices stopped rising in early spring I believe. &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-66464&quot;&gt;7&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-66461" rel="nofollow">observer</a>: </p>
<p>It&#039;s turning now.  Inventory is the leading indicator and it&#039;s even more traumatic than &#039;08.</p>
<p>In 08 prices stopped rising in early spring I believe.
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		<title>By: domus</title>
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		<dc:creator>domus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks bubbly 67, excellent post. 
 
@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-66462&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bubbly&lt;/a&gt; 
 
I guess it is the voting baby-boomers who might be having a disproportionate gradient on politicians. Who knows. 
But it is true: unaffordable home prices are seen as a success (sic!) rather than a serious problem.  
It is insanity, but it is still going on. &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-66463&quot;&gt;6&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks bubbly 67, excellent post.</p>
<p>@<a href="#comment-66462" rel="nofollow">bubbly</a></p>
<p>I guess it is the voting baby-boomers who might be having a disproportionate gradient on politicians. Who knows.</p>
<p>But it is true: unaffordable home prices are seen as a success (sic!) rather than a serious problem. </p>
<p>It is insanity, but it is still going on.
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		<title>By: bubbly</title>
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		<dc:creator>bubbly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Inspiration for Canadians: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.keenwalk.com.au/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.keenwalk.com.au/&lt;/a&gt;  
&lt;blockquote&gt; 
[A] protest about the manner in which keeping property prices high has come to dominate economic policy in Australia. 
&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
Similarly, in Canada, the whole economy is now dominated by housing. High real estate prices are a priority for our governments (both, liberal and conservative) and record unaffordability is considered a success, while any decline in home prices would be considered a catastrophe.  
Pure insanity. &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-66462&quot;&gt;22&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inspiration for Canadians: <a href="http://www.keenwalk.com.au/" rel="nofollow">http://www.keenwalk.com.au/</a>  </p>
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<p>[A] protest about the manner in which keeping property prices high has come to dominate economic policy in Australia.</p>
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<p>Similarly, in Canada, the whole economy is now dominated by housing. High real estate prices are a priority for our governments (both, liberal and conservative) and record unaffordability is considered a success, while any decline in home prices would be considered a catastrophe. </p>
<p>Pure insanity.
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		<title>By: observer</title>
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		<dc:creator>observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone want to call how high the next peak will be before the downturn? I guess that it cannot be more than 25% above the trough price in 2008 because this is the maximum of what the interest rate stimulus can provide. It is more likely to be less than that because of lingering negative macroeconomic forces. So we are pretty close to the ceiling now. &lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-66461&quot;&gt;3&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone want to call how high the next peak will be before the downturn? I guess that it cannot be more than 25% above the trough price in 2008 because this is the maximum of what the interest rate stimulus can provide. It is more likely to be less than that because of lingering negative macroeconomic forces. So we are pretty close to the ceiling now.
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