Friday Free-for-all!

It’s the end of the week! Free-for-all open topic discussion time, here are a few stories to kick off the chat:

-Breaking News! Get a rad pad, get laid by the desperate
-City offers low income loans for home repair
-What’s a co-op condo?
-Be prepared for downturn, but don’t worry
-Comparison shop for a mortgage
-Canadian personal debt loads keep growing
-Portland home sales drop near 17 year low
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So what are you seeing out there? Post your news links, thoughts and anecdotes here and have an excellent weekend!

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  1. 136
  2. patriotz patriotz Says: Reply to this comment

    @chip:

    Calling the CCNC a "protest group" is missing the point a bit, it's an ethnic lobby group of the sort which has been around in Canada since its origin, and like its counterparts it's used as a vehicle for parties seeking ethnic support (traditionally the Liberals but more recently the Conservatives) to buy votes.

    But you are not going to see the Conservatives cut off funding to them the way they are going to cut off direct funding to the political parties based on voter support. Some kinds of political funding are more equal than others.

    Current score: 1
  3. 135
  4. Devore Says: Reply to this comment

    @chip: Par for the course. There are dozens of groups funded by various levels of government which are basically special interest groups with an agenda designed to squeeze your wallet, or your rights and freedoms. On the other side, there are small organizations struggling on private funding, and sometimes "corporate" donations, for which they are often vilified (because "monied interests" are behind them). Many hands reaching into the public purse and pushing their agenda relentlessly, not very much organized opposition… you can only take them on one at a time, and there's just not enough reward for the work. You squash one, two more pop up. After all, it's one or two cents per taxpayer. But a cent here and a cent there, pretty soon you're talking several hundred dollars.

    Current score: 4
  5. 134
  6. Fast Says: Reply to this comment

    More than ten times income, huh? Shocking!

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f4afb162-8f8a-11e0-954d

    Current score: 4
  7. 133
  8. Extremely rich Van h Says: Reply to this comment

    @Teacher:

    China today is different now and it is much stronger.So don't worry, our motherland and its govening party will do its best to protect its citizens abroad through diplomatic channel or,during emergency like the "1883 Chinese Exclusion Act"Riot,Chinese Navy and its Marine will be ready.Though,our body in Chau Camp but our heart still remain in Han Camp.身在曹營,心在漢.

    Current score: -5
  9. 132
  10. Ravishing Rick Says: Reply to this comment

    Cut the music!!

    Let's talk salaries –> go to the forum to post factual information on BC and Vancouver salaries. 2010 VPD salaries are posted: http://vancouvercondo.info/forum/topic/vancouver-

    Current score: 2
  11. 131
  12. painted turtle Says: Reply to this comment

    We should let all Asian prospective Promontory buyer know that the building is built on leased land that used to be a burial site.

    Current score: 6
  13. 130
  14. chip Says: Reply to this comment

    @Chipper:

    Whenever I see a group like the Chinese Canadian National Congress agitating against government policy I always check their website for source of funding. And the CCNC doesn't disappoint. While there is no info on the national site, on the Toronto site there are four source of funds:

    Federal govt

    Provincial got

    City of Toronto

    Agency of prov govt

    And this is Canada today. The govt pays professional protest groups to agitate for concessions and payoffs from the same govt.

    Current score: 11
  15. 129
  16. Anonymous Says: Reply to this comment

    @patriotz: ……I’ve been following the US bust since it started and I’ve heard plenty of BS from homedebtors on that front, but I have to say I haven’t heard anyone blame their troubles on having sick people next door. Another first for Vancouver……

    Yes, sadly, it really is different here: no class!

    Current score: 8
  17. 128
  18. bubbly Says: Reply to this comment

    Reckless Endangerment: Making Debt Owe-nership Easy

    These bankers, their regulators and the politicians who supported them effectively adopted policies to strip away as much equity from the public’s balance sheets as they could by getting people to take on more and more debt at outrageous prices and with predatory conditions. And what they could not get from home buyers, they took from the tax payers after the system crashed. Real home ownership, in the end, had nothing to do with it. It was nothing more than a cynical ploy.

    Current score: 6
  19. 127
  20. observer Says: Reply to this comment

    Charts of price to rent for vancouver re and comparing real returns among tsx, vancouver re, bonds.

    http://lifevancouvercity.com/

    Current score: 4
  21. 126
  22. Patiently Waiting Says: Reply to this comment

    "More likely, Morrison said, the success is a result of spending a year doing research into what types of amenities the market was looking for. Morrison said a large number of the condos were purchased by New Westminster locals who wanted the homes for their children.

    "There's a lot people in there that have 18- to 22-year-olds who are just coming out of school and they want to put their kids into these homes. Almost a third of our homes went to that group," he said.

    Morrison said interest from offshore buyers spiked as the marketing period ended resulting in about 20-25 per cent of the units being purchased by foreign investors."

    Read more: http://www.royalcityrecord.com/business/ended+wit

    So the majority of these condos will either be owned by kids or foreign speculators. This place will be party central. There are no drinking establishments close by, but there's a liquor store around the corner.

    But what happens when Johnny or Janey move on? What will they do with their parents "investment" in their future? More likely an attempt by the parents to keep their kids close to home that will ultimately fail if youth unemployment remains high around here.

    My parents live close by, so I'm sure I'll have many entertaining anecdotes over the next few years.

    Current score: 8
  23. 125
  24. HAM - SHAM Says: Reply to this comment

    @JRoss:

    I'd have to choose lesbiens. I mean…. who would want to live next to them??? Especially if they look like the ones in those movies my wife hates me watching…

    Current score: 2
  25. 124
  26. terminalcitygirl Says: Reply to this comment

    Actually the discrimination we're seeing with the UBC hospice isn't based on age or race, it's mental/ physical disability – also Charter protected.

    Current score: 16
  27. 123
  28. chilled chilled Says: Reply to this comment

    @JRoss:

    Which of these stances would be acceptable to you?

    Niggers.

    Current score: -13
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  30. Ravishing Rick Says: Reply to this comment

    Cut the music!

    Bruins in 6!

    Li kai's ord rady in 68 mabe 70 … Somwhere in between there!

    I rolled out of whalley last night in the shagin wagin and spent most of the evening yelling at those honking canucks fans… I told them to shut up and go crawl back into bob rennie's vagina. The overseas chinese fans were easy to disperse, i just said, "look there is a new presale line up forming at 8888 minoru.."

    The indians fans were even easier…. I just said, "dairy sale at superstore"

    There was a scotish pub in port moody full of canuck sweat hogs andall i had to say was…. "horny sheep" and the canucks were the last thing on their minds.

    Just like real estate and li kai's old lady, canucks are going down!

    Current score: -7
  31. 121
  32. Devore Says: Reply to this comment

    http://www.financialpost.com/personal-finance/Str

    “I got to be honest, one of the core contributing factors I am counting on is modestly higher interest rates,” Craig Alexander, chief economist with Toronto-Dominion, said after the Bank of Canada did not raise rates this week. There is some sense it will raise rates in September. “It will help to cool debt growth. If it doesn’t raise rates, I suspect we’ll see debt growth running faster than income [growth].”

    What, bankers worried? Nah.

    Rate of debt growth is slowing, because a) consumers are tapped out, and b) CMHC no longer insures HELOCs. Duh.

    Current score: 6
  33. 120
  34. Best place on meth Says: Reply to this comment

    @Best place on meth:

    Reply fail, was meant for vreaa.

    Current score: 0
  35. 119
  36. Best place on meth Says: Reply to this comment

    @Boob Rennie:

    What that tells me is that people here are out of money and can't come up with an extra $600 if they want to go to the game.

    Current score: 1
  37. 118
  38. Boob Rennie Says: Reply to this comment

    Here is my latest research report on Vancouver real estate: http://www.urbanfutures.com/reports/BTN%20Housing

    Current score: 3
  39. 117
  40. vreaa Says: Reply to this comment

    Saturday 4 Jun 2011, Second game of the Stanley Cup Finals, Vancouver Canucks vs Boston Bruins, CBC broadcast. The shot shows two fans holding handmade signs, visible via backlighting, in reverse. Take a closer look…

    "NUX TIX OR MORTGAGE PAYMENT?"

    Anybody else see this playoff placard…?

    More testimony to the pervasiveness of the preoccupation with real estate in Vancouver.

    http://wp.me/pcq1o-2sT

    Current score: 7
  41. 116
  42. JRoss Says: Reply to this comment

    Collum,

    Question:

    They are worrried about their properties values because African-Americans are moving next door.

    They are worrried about their properties values because Native Canadians are moving next door.

    They are worrried about their properties values because Mexicans are moving next door.

    They are worrried about their properties values because lesbians are moving next door.

    They are worrried about their properties values because Italians are moving next door.

    They are worrried about their properties values because Irish are moving next door.

    They are worrried about their properties values because the old and sick are moving next door.

    Which of these stances would be acceptable to you?

    Current score: 11
  43. 115
  44. Poor Renter Says: Reply to this comment

    Look, it's not racism; it's the Chinese who are painting a shitty but clear picture of themselves. Chinese condo owners are petitioning against the hostel because other Chinese will value the property lower if it's built. How is that racist? There's nothing racist about it.

    Current score: 20
  45. 114
  46. Patiently Waiting Says: Reply to this comment

    @Collum: White supremacists? OK, which one of you is Cam Good?

    Current score: 9
  47. 113
  48. N Says: Reply to this comment

    @jesse:

    >>Fine. They’re not racists. But me calling them “agists” doesn’t have the same ring to it. But it should.<<

    How about "bigots?"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry

    Current score: 5
  49. 112
  50. Collum Says: Reply to this comment

    Agree with other comments on here. This blog is now nothing more than a place for white supremacists to hang out.

    Current score: -12
  51. 111
  52. specuskeptic specuskeptic Says: Reply to this comment

    @Stu: Start a pool? First person to find a quote from a pumper using a Stanley cup victory as a reason to buy now or be priced out forever.

    Current score: 8
  53. 110
  54. Stu Says: Reply to this comment

    Hey crew, big Stu here. I can tell you i've seen a lot of chinese come here. I remember when they started in the corner store, hell Stu can almost remember when they built the railroad. One thing i never thought i would see is a Canucks Stanley cup victory. Two oddities today crew, Canucks as winners and Stu with a sun burn. Lets face it bears, it was a bad omen when the Grizzlies left town. Stanley cup champions next week gang, time to get positive.

    Current score: 4
  55. 109
  56. ReadyToPop Says: Reply to this comment

    I hate to say it but I'm not cheering for the bears right now….the Bruins that is….

    Go C_____s Go!

    Current score: 3
  57. 108
  58. painted turtle Says: Reply to this comment

    The government is trying to shift the attention to Chinese investors so that they can be blamed when CHMC will collapse. Of course, the government has done NOTHING wrong in the past 4 years with mortgage rules :)

    Chinese investors will be presented as speculators responsible for inflated prices and mortgage defaults.

    To me, this is a sign that the end of house appreciation is coming.

    Current score: 15
  59. 107
  60. Li Kai Shing Says: Reply to this comment

    Any SOB incubi that vote me down get double digit rent increeze

    Current score: -11
  61. 106
  62. Li Kai Shing Says: Reply to this comment

    @Teacher:

    No

    U wrong

    Itarian goaries big chokersz..

    Boston will kick ass.

    Itarian owners and Itarian goalie bad combo….too mch mafia involved.

    Buy glass bottom boat and see Itarian navy and air force..maybe spumoni guy too.

    Why hang out with losers……ask Rick..

    Current score: -11
  63. 105
  64. jesse jesse Says: Reply to this comment

    @Teacher: You think they discriminate against ghosts? Holy crap no. They are telling the living elderly they are not welcome.

    Current score: 15
  65. 104
  66. Anonymous Says: Reply to this comment

    @ Old guy:
    "…if this anti-dying, self-centred belief is not universal, that someone- like you- has not stepped forward from the community and said ‘this does not represent us…."
    Been done. Click on the link provided by Patiently Waiting on comment #66.

    Current score: 1
  67. 103
  68. Chipper Says: Reply to this comment

    @Teacher:

    Yes, Chinese only care about their own elderly people. I guess they don’t care about other peoples elderly like they do here in the West. The elderly here get cared for by strangers in group homes. What progress.

    Generalization much?

    The Promontory residents were accompanied at their press conference by representatives from the Chinese Canadian National Congress. Their mandate, as stated on their home page reads:

    * To promote the rights of all individuals, in particular, those of Chinese Canadians and to encourage their full and equal participation in Canadian society.

    * To create an environment in this country in which the rights of all individuals are fully recognized and protected.

    * To promote understanding and cooperation between Chinese Canadians and all other ethnic, cultural and racial groups in Canada.

    * To encourage and develop in persons of Chinese descent, a desire to know and to respect their historical and cultural heritage; to educate them in adopting a creative and positive attitude towards the Chinese Canadian contribution to society.

    Hell of a way to promote understanding and cooperation between Chinese Canadians and all other ethnic, cultural and racial groups. Ineptly handled, which is why public sentiment is clearly against the condo owners.

    Current score: 16
  69. 102
  70. Teacher Says: Reply to this comment

    @Old guy:

    Would anyone be allowed airtime just to say that? This story isnt even on the minds of most Chinese or other Vancouverites for
    that matter.

    I believe they just wanted the hospice somewhere else, not gone entirely. But, nonetheless, I wouldn't be happy about the people protesting if I were sick and dying.

    Current score: -11
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  72. Teacher Says: Reply to this comment

    @Li Kai Shing:

    He does not speak for Chinese people.

    Game time!! Wooooohooooooo Go Canucks!!!!!!

    Current score: -12

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