It feels so normal here

Another warm sunny day in Ottawa. Here’s what I get for having given up on the “best place on earth”:

– more cultural activities
– people who are polite and say hi to you on the street
– neighbourhoods that feel like neighbourhoods
– ethnic diversity but not segregation
– no homeless people outside of downtown
– breakins are regarded as newsworthy
– much better job opportunities

I can break the RE market into three sectors:

– Gatineau, Quebec
Prices that are actually reasonable. $200K gets you this in the English-speaking community of Aylmer:

http://passerelle.centris.ca

– Generic Ottawa
Overpriced but if you really want to buy, you won’t become a debt slave. $300K gets you this in Silicon Valley North:

http://www.realtor.ca

– Trendy Ottawa
Definite bubble territory, but still more for your money than Vancouver. This $1.2 mil house in the Glebe likely would not rent for more than $3500/month:

http://www.realtor.ca

Compare with this rental:

http://ottawa.en.craigslist.ca

Or you can rent, there’s lot of quality stock, the landlords aren’t psychos and people don’t treat you like a leper.

Enjoy the rain.

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GR
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GR

Ah, I aways pegged you for a late-40s early 50s under-utilized government type given your analytical approach, critical thinking, and inordinate amount of time to post.

Enjoy Ottawa – its a great city and all the things you say are true!

VHB
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VHB

November 2011 month-end projections

Days elapsed so far 5

Days missing 0

Days remaining 16

5 Day Moving Average: Sales 136

5 Day Moving Average: Listings 190

SALES

Sales so far 645

Projection for rest of month (using 5day MA) 2181

Projected month end total 2826 +/- 353

NEW LISTINGS

Listings so far 989

Projection for rest of month (using 5day MA) 3045

Projected month end total 4034 +/- 301

Sell-list so far 65.2%

Projected month-end sell-list 70.1%

MONTHS OF INVENTORY

Inventory as of October 31, 2011 15377

MoI at this sales pace 5.44

pricedoutfornow
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pricedoutfornow

I've spent some time in Ottawa. Nice place, people friendly. Winter's cold but at least it's sunny! Too bad I couldn't move there, my family would kill me. Congrats on your move.

Jim
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Jim

Haven't lived there, but I have visited many times for conferences. It's a nice city. The traffic is brutal, from what I recall. I'm not a fan of ethnic diversity, and I appreciate that it doesn't feel like one is living in China or Pakistan. (In the same fashion, I wouldn't want to go to a city in mainland China and find it packed full of Mexicans and Arabs)

Salaries are much higher on average, and people are indeed more friendly than Vancouver. It's the cold that turns me away.

interested
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interested

patriotz, is there an email address at which I can reach you?

Anonymouse
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Anonymouse

"Enjoy the rain."

You've been how long? Isn't it a little early for gloating?

nxt
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nxt

@interested: If you're a registered member of this site you can use the forum to send Private Messages via email. That way people don't have to actually share their email addresses publicly.

Alum
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Alum

Common guys, Whistler is opening in two weeks.

Instead of nagging about housing better get your ski equipment ready !

rp1
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rp1

Another cold rainy day in Vancouver. Here’s what you're missing in the “best place on earth”:

– nothing to do but commute

– senior citizens run over by lamborghini

– a poll of people who have gone as far as Comox says this is the best place ever

– house prices increased 20% in October, another 15%-20% is expected in November

– 25 year old couples borrowing 700k to secure their future here

– blank stares when you say hello

Anonymouse
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Anonymouse

@Alum:

"Common guys, Whistler is opening in two weeks. "

12cm fell on Cypress last night 🙂

Anonymous
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Anonymous

oh please already. you made your move. now you dont have to find reasons to tell yourself it was a good move. Enjoy Ottawa.

N
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N

"I’m not a fan of ethnic diversity, and I appreciate that it doesn’t feel like one is living in China or Pakistan. (In the same fashion, I wouldn’t want to go to a city in mainland China and find it packed full of Mexicans and Arabs)"

This is an unfortunate attitude. You will be happier, and a better member of society if you look at the reasons behind these feelings. I understand that you feel uncomfortable with others who are different from you but I can assure you that a person does not have to feel this way. You owe it to yourself and to those around you to overcome your fears and feel at home in the wider world.

taylor192
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patriotz, Good choice to move to Ottawa! More good points about Ottawa: – Highest average family income (by a large margin: http://www40.statcan.ca/l01/cst01/famil107a-eng.h… – Lower unemployment than Vancouver (~5% < ~7%) – 1 in 3 people work for some form of government I moved the opposite direction 3 years ago, and while I love Vancouver and am not leaving, I do miss how easy life was in Ottawa. Yet don't be fooled, there are definite signs of bubble activity in Ottawa, especially the west side (Kanata). I have friends that have purchased $500K homes in Stitsville (10 mins futher outside Kanata) which drives me crazy that a house that far out costs that much – mostly cause a luxury developer (Mattamy) is adding every available option. Why does a family of 4 need 3500sqft and 4 bathrooms? yet they keep selling… Read more »
Not much of a name...
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Not much of a name...

I was out in Ottawa a few weeks ago visiting with family. It was interesting speaking with family friends who were absolutely aghast at the neighbour who had just listed their house. Can you believe it was listed at $375k??? I just laughed and said it was just a matter of perspective.

People out here are so delusional when they see a house for sale at double that and feel that it's a bargain. All sense of reality is gone as it appears that many have lost sight of what the value of house actually is. It's really sad.

Kingston
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Kingston

@Alum: Whistler is opening in two weeks.

Best line-ups on earth, sometimes you even get to go downhill. 🙂

Anonymus
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Anonymus

"Oh, and the -40C cold snap every Feb, where it would get so cold my car wouldn't be warm after my 30 min commute to work."

holly shit -40!!! did patriotz researched where he is moving to? Considering how much time he has for posting on the board he should have done his homework. I bet he will be back to Van by the next spring.

whydoItry
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whydoItry

When it gets to -40C, call in sick. Your car isn't warm after 30 minutes? Buy a better car. Don't like shoveling snow – buy a snow blower. Put a parka on and chill out. West Coasters that would rather walk around like Zombies for four months of gray sky s and pounding rain, than be cold for the time it takes to walk from your car to the office. Bunch of West Coast Wimps.

Alum
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Alum

@DEFAULT NAMEe:

Has anyone been to Mount Baker?

I have heard it's about the same size of Cypress Mountain,

DaMann
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DaMann

@Alum: You're joking right?

Baker is a nice mountain!

DaMann
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DaMann

@whydoItry:

Try doing any outdoor activities in -40c. Stay inside? Right, who's hibernating now. As much as I hate not seeing the sun for 4 months, I'd rather that and still be able to walk, run, hike, and many other things than look at the sun through my window.

I'm no Vancouver apologist but you can take your -40 and stuff it 🙂

registered
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registered

C'mon guys, ignore the local inbreds. Ottawa's weather normals aren't that hard to find:

http://gocanada.about.com/od/canadatravelplanner/

Nov: Ottawa, ON: 28 / 41°F, (-2 / 5°C)

Dec: Ottawa, ON: 12 / 27°F, (-11 / -3°C)

Jan: Ottawa, ON: 5 / 23°F, (-15 / -5°C)

Feb: Ottawa, ON: 9 / 25°F, (-13 / -4°C)

Mar: Ottawa, ON: 21 / 36°F, (-6 / 2°C) mix of rain / snow, but warming up

Apr: Ottawa, ON: 37 / 54°F, (3 / 15°C)

chilled
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chilled

Patriotz, you didn't have to move that far, there are significantly more cultural activities in Edmonton than Vancouver, but won't you miss;

-thug a lugs wandering around everywhere?

-people spitting anywhere and everywhere like f***ing 3rd world savages?

-a kinder, gentler live version of 'COPS' outside your door regularly?

-disproportionate amount of boorish, loud and arrogant restaurant and movie patrons?

-humorous people who wear shorts and a parka simultaneously?

-the pretension on such a grandiose scale?

jesse
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I could not get over how much good cross-country skiing there was around Ottawa. The winters can be harsh, though.

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