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If you live in and around Vancouver you probably know its election time. Voting day is on the 19th.

This is an open topic political thread. Who do you feel is best suited to lead this city and why?

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Vansanity
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Vansanity

I, along with all my friends and family in Vancouver, will be voting for NPA. In my opinion, we just need to get Gregor and his blind Vision party out of office.

McLovin
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McLovin

NPA all the way! The sooner Mayor Moonbeam gets booted out the better.

jesse
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One thing Frances Bula noticed was how many repeat attendees there were at both the NPA and Vision fundraising dinners last weekend. Guess who?

I'm seriously considering voting for a few indies, just to mix things up a bit.

LKC
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LKC

I'll vote for independents as well.

They're not going to get elected, but I refuse on principle to cast a vote for the Vision and NPA candidates, all of whom appear to be beholden to developers.

jesse
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One comment I had noticed talking to some friends is that they want to live in Vancouver but for various reasons are unwilling or unable to live in the city proper, many because they are unwilling to take big risks with long duration high convexity debt loads. They cannot vote in the Vancouver election and feel powerless to effect their ability to move into the city.

patriotz
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Peter Ladner knows business, knows that the RE bubble is hurting the real economy in Vancouver, and has spoken about it publicly. But he's not on the NPA slate this time for any office.

Think about that.

If you want to vote for someone not beholden to the RE industry, you have lots of choices. COPE, whatever their faults (and they have many) are not. Nor are the Greens. And nor of course are many independents.

All the opinions of a spectator this time of course.

terminalcitygirl
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terminalcitygirl

IMHO the NPA would be disaster for the COV, exactly the development I don't want. I was thinking a few independents and some Vision candidates although if Gregor shuts down Occupy, I will have a hard time giving Vision any votes.

Call em as I see em
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Call em as I see em
"I refuse on principle to cast a vote for the Vision and NPA candidates, all of whom appear to be beholden to developers." Remember development adds more inventory which is good for bears. The reason places like Miami have crashed much quicker than other areas of the US is due to the massive amounts of condos being built prior to the bubble popping. Development will help things correct quicker when the developers have inventory to unload. I also think for the most part Vancouver has done a decent job with development especially compared to other cities and municipalities. They do get lots out of most developers for amenities. I am voting for the NPA based on the bike lane disaster and the anti car policy for downtown. I also find COPE and Vision cater to the drug attics a little… Read more »
Turkey
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Turkey

For those who aren't aware, Mike Klassen is one of the people behind citycaucus.com. He's an active force in the reduction of civic politics to cheap shots, distortion, and name-calling. He's a major player in the NPA campaign and is running for council under their banner.

Vote your conscience, but in my opinion, this would be an excellent election to hold your nose and not vote reactively.

Call em as I see em
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Call em as I see em

"if Gregor shuts down Occupy, I will have a hard time giving Vision any votes."

I think the best thing Gregor could do from an election point of view is shut is down. It doesn't bother me one way or the other but the occupy protest was a gift to Susan Anton and the NPA.

VanRant
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VanRant

22 months of inventory available for sale in Beijing. Watch out Canada!

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-

Patiently Waiting
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Patiently Waiting

Muncipal politics is different because people often vote for individuals, or at least find it easier to stray from their past voting preferences.

I don't think there is any doubt about the choice for Mayor in COV. Anton is a nice person, I'm sure, but few see her as ready for that office. Beyond that, I haven't followed COV closely enough other than to say it would be nice to see more independent voices.

Over here, in Coquitlam there are no parties, although you can generally tell where candidates are based on their supporters. I'll support business-backed Mayor Stewart, but will also support a couple of labour-backed councillors. I'm still undecided on the other three council spots, and haven't had time to research it yet.

Patiently Waiting
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Patiently Waiting

OT – story about a rotten deal in Victoria.

"If it's been fixed, there's no longer a defect," said council spokesperson Larry Buttress. He pointed out that it's against the rules for realtors to tell buyers about problems their clients don't want disclosed.

"If the seller tells you not to do something — that is lawful — you can't act against that instruction," said Buttress.

He is correct that a realwhore has to follow their client instructions. BUT if a client is being unlawful, a realwhore is supposed to drop that client. Client confidentiality doesn't mean realwhores are allowed to aid and abet illegal behaviour.

Shame on the Real Estate Council of B.C.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/st

space889
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space889
Personally my view for election in Vancouver is that with the civic parties (NPA, Vision, COPE) you are basically deciding on where you want the city to waste money and who to sell out to. It would be nice if some truly independent and good candidates get into city hall but unfortunately with how most people operates with respect to elections, that's extremely unlikley to happen. You can't win any seat in an election now without a big budget, and a large volunteer staff willing to put in the time. That's hard to independent to do. Plus, most people aren't interested in any argument/plans/proposals/etc that takes longer than 3 minutes to explain and requires critical thinking skills. They just want 1 – problem, 2 – solution, 3 – what's in it for me, 4 – it's not going to cost… Read more »
Chris
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Chris

All Sue Anton can can do is the take away the bike line. She is pretty useless.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

If you want to temper home prices, you need more supply, less demand. Check what the parties say about each;

Gregor/Vision; Platform only addresses helping renters and increasing 'social' housing supply. No mention of affordability for homebuyers. Nothing mentioned on decreasing demand.

Anton/NPA; Platform is to increase supply to increase affordability. Nothing mentioned decreasing demand.

Sandy Garossino; Not much on increasing supply. Decrease demand by decreasing spec investment in resi housing.

If I knew nothing else about these folks and my concern was homeownership/affordability, I would lean towards an NPA/Garrosino slate; increasing supply/ decreasing spec demand.

Not that they would actually do anything about either, but it may, at least, allow the possibility to occur.

Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

@Chris:

Other than being extremely shrill and whiny, she is indeed useless.

pricedoutfornow
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pricedoutfornow

@Patiently Waiting:

Is it illegal? Isn't it up to the buyer to get a home inspection to find out any problems, or potential problems? Buyer beware? (I'm asking, I really don't know)

jesse
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@Call em as I see em: "Remember development adds more inventory which is good for bears. The reason places like Miami have crashed much quicker than other areas of the US is due to the massive amounts of condos being built prior to the bubble popping. Development will help things correct quicker when the developers have inventory to unload." Well the question is what sort of development we're going to get. There seems to be a lot of mantra around "neighbourhood based planning", but there's a lot of subtext there. Many candidates, those in NSV and NPA most notably, are advocating for increasing density along existing transit corridors and not encroaching on areas that are farther from these areas. This could mean vast swaths of low density housing ("maintaining neighbourhood character") and then steep gradients of high-density housing around certain… Read more »
Anonymus
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Anonymus

I will follow George Carlin and not get out the house on the voting day. Politicians are bought and elections are just illusion that somehow we can change things.

God bless George Carlin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIraCchPDhk

Patiently Waiting
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Patiently Waiting

@pricedoutfornow:

From the story:

"I suggested to [the seller] that he mention the moisture issue and he felt it would devalue the house price if he did … it was Mr. Pringle who elected not to make any note of the previous moisture issue," wrote Faber.

At that point, Faber should have dropped the client. He knew his client was potentially disobeying the law for no other reason than obeying the law would devalue his property.

The PDS is not a legally binding warranty, but it can be "legally incorporated into the Contract for Purchase and Sale." (which I assume was the case).
http://www.rebgv.org/property-disclosure-statemen

Patiently Waiting
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Patiently Waiting

http://www.recbc.ca/licensee/rules.htm

From 5-13:

(2) A licensee who is providing trading services to a client who is disposing of real estate must disclose to all other parties to the trade, promptly but in any case before any agreement for the acquisition or disposition of the real estate is entered into, any material latent defect in the real estate that is known to the licensee.

(3) If a client instructs a licensee to withhold a disclosure required by subsection (2), the licensee must refuse to provide further trading services to or on behalf of that client in respect of the trade in real estate.

whydoItry
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whydoItry

If I were to do that in my profession, I would be facing suspension.

Sometimes, you have to fire your client.

rent4evr
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rent4evr

Back to the CBC story.

I think it's crappy that the realtor didn't deal with the issue with any integrity. However, I think the owner's recourse is to take the seller to court. If the repair was indeed substandard and appropriate permits were not acquired then the disclosure agreement is inaccurate.

I listened to the story on the radio this morning. There were some very sob clips of the owner lamenting his current state of affairs. He sounds exceedingly cash strapped (can't even finish the basement repair – let alone fund a lawyer). Imho, he shouldn't have bought if he doesn't have an appropriate contingency for repairs of this magnitude.

VMD
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Chinese media calling for more strict income source verification for people emigrating out of country.

To sum up, it is well known that many of the Chinese newly rich are at least considering immigration. However, it is also well known that many of these newly rich obtained their wealth illegally. It is in the Chinese people/government's best interest to verify their income source before allowing them to emigrate.

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&amp

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