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If you live in and around Vancouver you probably know its election time. Voting day is on the 19th.

This is an open topic political thread. Who do you feel is best suited to lead this city and why?

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8 Call em as I see em Says: "The reason places like Miami have crashed much quicker than other areas of the US is due to the massive amounts of condos being built prior to the bubble popping. "

Supporting evidence would be nice, otherwise some might think it was because Miami rose higher and faster.

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@terminalcitygirl:

"if Gregor shuts down Occupy, I will have a hard time giving Vision any votes."

These people obviously have a right to protest, but it's also clear that they don't represent anywhere near their claimed 99%. They've cost the city hundreds of thousands in policing, etc, and have way outstayed their welcome on a piece land which is shared by all. If they want to continue they should consider relocating.

That's before you get into an argument about whether they've even been able to show what they're actually protesting, and the other tragic events that have taken place there.

I can't see anything positive coming from letting them remain at the Art Gallery.

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@jesse: I have a few indies that I like, I believe in their cause, they just don't have the resources to make it a go this time around though. I'm not voting NPA because I believe in them, it's a message sent to Vision that I hate them and fuckin Moonbeam, sick of his shit.

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@VMD:

>>>It is in the Chinese people/government’s best interest to verify their income source before allowing them to emigrate.<<<

Or they could charge them an exit fee, say $1 million per person.

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ouch!this does not look good for Canada to live next door failed state.

US poverty at new high: 16 percent, or 49.1M

"A record number of Americans — 49.1 million — are poor, based on a new census measure that for the first time takes into account rising medical costs and other expenses.Without food stamps, the poverty rate would have risen to 17.7 percent, which translates to about 5 million more people."

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/US-poverty-at-new-h

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@DEFAULT NAMEe: In the grand scheme of things, camping in front of the VAG is not a big deal. I don't see why people get upset about it when so many powerful people do so much more wrong to us every day.

What alternatives do these kids have:

1) Want fries with that?

2) Try to get educated, go in massive debt, and back to "Want fries with that?"

3) Camp in front of the VAG.

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@Patiently Waiting:

The bias in the 3 choices you present don't really make that a fair question.

Options 1+3 lead me to believe you think that doing nothing is better than doing something, even if the pay is low.

Option 2 seems to suggest you think they may not have the necessary qualifications and training for the workplace. Is that somehow the fault of Wall Street?

I'm surprised you think that smoking weed at the Art Gallery for weeks on end is really the most productive thing they could be doing right now.

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#30 @jack: "A record number of Americans — 49.1 million — are poor,"

The system works.

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#32 @DEFAULT NAMEe: "I’m surprised you think that smoking weed at the Art Gallery for weeks on end is really the most productive thing they could be doing right now."

It's a little better than propping the system up, but it's no way to win a war.

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Take a look at Sandy Garossino an independent for city council. I read her interview : http://themainlander.com/2011/11/05/interview-san… and she is the only one talking about this issue. She has my vote.

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@Vansanity: "it’s a message sent to Vision that I hate them"

FWIW that was the same message the electorate sent to the NPA the last time round.

After talking to a person who ran for council a few years ago, she was blunt in stating that those who donated to her campaign were expecting very specific things — rezonings and construction project approvals mostly — in return for their money. That VV and NPA seem to have donators "hedging their bets" gives me pause.

I'm seriously considering independents; I don't buy the "vote to get the other guy out" argument, it simply forces voters into fear mode and shuts out independent thoughts; thoughts possessed by some skilled independents would be a welcome diversion from the normal partisan distractions.

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@rp1:

"It’s a little better than propping the system up, but it’s no way to win a war."

An what exactly is their "war"? What changes to the system have they proposed? How have they decided that the system is unfair, apart from the fact that they don't own a yacht? I think the system is fair in that often the result you get out of it is more or less equal to the effort you put in. Perhaps I only say this because I bothered to study at school rather than grow dreadlocks and learn the digderidoo?

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What alternatives do these kids have:

1) Want fries with that?

2) Try to get educated, go in massive debt, and back to “Want fries with that?”

3) Camp in front of the VAG

Its a bullshit atttude like that that keeps people down. Every generation has its problems and challenges. How about this:

1) Work Hard

2) Have a good attitude and don't expect things to be handed to you.

3) See 1.

Follow this and things will work out for the vast vast majority. There are lots of young people who are doing just fine thank you very much.

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rp1: "The system works."

for 1%, that is for sure.

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More great info for you China pumpers and apoligists:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-07/china-fr

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McLovin: "Follow this and things will work out for the vast vast majority.There are lots of young people who are doing just fine thank you very much"

yeah, happiness is just around corner. gimme a break. propaganda that comes from the elite.

young people start their life with 100.000's of debt. indebted slaves from the start. financial and political system is fraudulent.

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"The biggest question in America these days is how to revive the economy.

The biggest question among activists now occupying Wall Street and dozens of other cities is how to strike back against the nation’s almost unprecedented concentration of income, wealth, and political power in the top 1 percent.

The two questions are related. With so much income and wealth concentrated at the top, the vast middle class no longer has the purchasing power to buy what the economy is capable of producing. (People could pretend otherwise as long as they could treat their homes as ATMs, but those days are now gone.) The result is prolonged stagnation and high unemployment as far as the eye can see."

Until we reverse the trend toward inequality, the economy can’t be revived."

http://robertreich.org/post/12303771388

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@jack:

"US poverty at new high: 16 percent, or 49.1M"

It's no surprise – many people will be considered poor right now due to high unemployment. Eventually they'll regain employment, and that 16% will drop.

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yeah, happiness is just around corner. gimme a break. propaganda that comes from the elite. young people start their life with 100.000′s of debt. indebted slaves from the start. financial and political system is fraudulent. You're talking to one who it worked out for jack ass. Started collecting pop bottles at 11 McDonalds at 15 Night shift in a fish plant in the summer at 16 & 17 Canadian Tire and Fish plant through University I had student loans like everyone else. The difference was I was doing jobs other people didn't want to do. (The exact same people who are camping out on the lawn) While my friends partied, I worked. I was taught a strong work ethic and the importance of a good attitude by my father at a young age and it has carried me through all… Read more »
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@Anonymus:

"With so much income and wealth concentrated at the top, the vast middle class no longer has the purchasing power to buy what the economy is capable of producing."

Because wealth is finite pie. The more someone gets the less there is for you. You might read somewhere that income inequality increases in times of rapid economic growth, and shrinks during contractions, but that is just a lie to keep you from storming the barricades. Or something.

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#42 @Anonymus: "Until we reverse the trend toward inequality, the economy can’t be revived.”

The way to fix this is to cut out financiers. Don't borrow money. It's that simple. Make money and spend it yourself in the real economy, on goods and services you want, at businesses you respect. Don't spend other peoples' money. Don't buy things from companies you think are bad. Do things yourself if necessary and help friends and family do the same. Don't feed the parasites.

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@VanRant: …22 months of inventory available for sale in Beijing. Watch out Canada!

http://news.xinhuanet.com/engl…..1060_2.htm...

I by tree trousan, my husba buy tree trousan.

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@Best place on meth: ….Other than being extremely shrill and whiny, she is indeed useless…..

They're all useless! The only option a voter has is to kick them out after one term in order to limit the damage they do.

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@McLovin:

"Sorry, I don’t feel the least bit sorry for kids today."

Who's asking you to be sorry for anyone?

Oh, is that fish plant still open?

How about Can Tire, even taking applications?

What was your tuition way back when and the course entry requirements vs today?

I'm a bit older than you, with a post secondary education as well. The difference is that I know it is harder, SIGNIFICANTLY harder for students to get ahead today compared to when I was starting off. That is undeniable.