Condo owner against speculation

This comment was left by Condo Paradise in the previous thread:

This rambling is addressed to all those who contributed to the insane property values we have here.

First, I would like to disclose some relevant info.

I own my 1000 sq, ft condo(no intention to sell) which I purchased new back in 1996 for $279,000. I don’t care what it is worth today because I enjoy living here. The building is situated in a very quiet neighborhood and consists of 120 suites. We have had very little problems with the structure as we are diligent with our maintenance and repair. Our strata fees are $300 – $400 /month and have a healthy contingency fund Over the years the demographics of the building has changed dramatically. We have 25% of the suites vacant.

This is where I begin.

I would personally like to thank all the offshore owners and any investor of any kind as most of you care very little to the day to day business of our building. The only important matter to you is the rise in value. The great thing is that most of you are never around so it is always very quiet. And when you do show up, your ill conduct and lack of knowledge of the bylaws result in many infractions. Fines mean more money for the building. Thanks again.

Council meetings are great as there are none of your concerns to deal with as you never bother to attend. Just keep paying your strata fees. We used to have more rentals but thanks to your greed the rental rates became delusional so there is little interest. Past renters have made a favorable contribution to our community.

To the speculators: Stop bothering the council and manager regarding the condition of your suite as in worn out appliances, faulty toilets, electrical fixtures not working etc. This is your responsibility, hint: hire your own inspector instead of using your RE agent. We take care of the building only, the rest is your responsibility.

And speaking of agents, please stop turning our building into a circus at every open house. It diminishes the dignity and value of our humble residence. How can we take this profession seriously?

You do it to yourselves.

Oh and while you are sitting around doing nothing (as most recent open houses have been very quiet) perhaps you can brush up on some math skills. You certainly can extrapolate your commission fees, but how is it you can turn a 2 bdrm 950 sq.ft condo and market it as 3 bdrm 1100 sq. ft?

The balcony is NOT a bedroom. Invest in a proper measuring tape and while you’re at it use your quiet time to read some of the bylaws. Proper info is important , as opposed to guesswork and pulling answers out of you rear end.

The sooner this whole fiasco comes to an end the better. Please sell your suites quickly and leave us alone.I would like for some nice people to move in and make this place their home.

Thanks for listening

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Boombust
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Boombust
4 years 6 months ago

Yup, he must be fed up dealing with these cretins…

Say, is everyone familiar with the Christy Clark/Jaspal Atwal acandal? CKNW refuses to pursue it.

Google: Alex G Tsukamis’ blog for more…

taylor192
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4 years 6 months ago

Wow, $279K in 1996. A coworker bought a 900sqft condo down in 2002 for the same price. Prices stayed flat for a long time.

Patiently Waiting
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Patiently Waiting
4 years 6 months ago
Best place on meth
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Best place on meth
4 years 6 months ago

@Patiently Waiting:

That might be the dumbest realtor yet.

All 5 of his points are pointless.

Not much of a name...
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Not much of a name...
4 years 6 months ago

@Best place on meth: I like point 3

No. 3: The doomsayers may be afflicted with “recency bias,” which says that people’s view of the future tends to be shaped by what recently occurred.

This can be applied to bulls who view the run up of prices over the last 10 years as a predictor as to where the market is going in the future.

CrashMahArse
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CrashMahArse
4 years 6 months ago

@Patiently Waiting:
Those are good points, real estate market will continue to rise. I’m looking to buy an investment condo this year.

Inventory
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Inventory
4 years 6 months ago

15009

jumpin in
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jumpin in
4 years 6 months ago

I had a chat with a developer. According to him, it is normal for a condo to change hands 3 times before it is occupied. But there is no speculation in Vancouver…

jumpin in
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Extremely rich Van house owner.
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Story from the moon again and again.Is the article written by a real Condo owner or a fake by pennyless,unempolyed and delusive bears.Don’t forget paying your rent on time.

Extremely rich Van house owner.
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@jumpin in: Each time the owner gain 30 to 70% at least coz there is a huge demand from Chinese rich immigrants who buy Condo like sacks of Potato,China wealth is out of your immigination.

paulb.
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paulb.
4 years 6 months ago

New Listings 338
Price Changes 134
Sold Listings 118

TI:15069

http://www.laurenandpaul.ca

b5baxter
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4 years 6 months ago
@Patiently Waiting: re: James Louie Chung points: 1. Mortgage rates have been a record lows in the US for some time and housing prices still continue to fall. Japan even had lower rates while its housing prices decreased. 2. Isn’t this point an acknowledgement that Vancouver is in a bubble? In the US some markets declined 50% and some declined 10%. PEI may be a 10% place, Vancouver will be higher. 3. Completely inaccurate. Take a look at the Case Shiller index. For over 100 years housing has seen periods of sharp run-ups followed by steep declines. Most recently Vancouver… Read more »
patient renter
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patient renter
4 years 6 months ago

lovin’ those numbers today!

VMD
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4 years 6 months ago

first 3 days of March 2012 vs 2011:

Year Sales List  Ratio
2012  404   902  34.9
2011  578  1034  55.9
Diff -30%  -13%  -21% 
Makaya
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Makaya
4 years 6 months ago

@VMD: we aren’t seeing increase in listings yet, so the panic on the sellers’ side has not yet set in, but with such low sales numbers, the buyers are getting scarce…

Navin R. Johnson
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Navin R. Johnson
4 years 6 months ago

absolutely fabulous numbers today! I can’t believe the run….

gordholio
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4 years 6 months ago

Just posted 10 reasons housing WILL crash at Mr. Realtor’s site:

http://www.hellovancity.com/2012/01/29/5-reasons-why-the-housing-market-wont-crash-real-estate-news-in-vancouver-january-2012/

Gotta fight ’em in the trenches.

jumpin in
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jumpin in
4 years 6 months ago

Well done!
I really liked this one:
“One of the first signs of a crash are realtors saying the market won’t crash.”

jumpin in
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jumpin in
4 years 6 months ago

It is getting better by the hour 🙂
http://www.vancouversun.com/business/House+prices+expected+ease+this+year/6251737/story.html
House prices expected to ease this year

http://www.news1130.com/news/local/article/337770–bc-home-sales-not-expected-to-repeat-2011
BC home sales not expected to repeat 2011
CREA predicts slight drop in prices

jumpin in
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jumpin in
4 years 6 months ago
jumpin in
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jumpin in
4 years 6 months ago

And the award for the best pumping quote goes to:

Gregory Klump, CREA’s chief economist, said the main reason for B.C.’s forecast price decline is because multi-million-dollar sales activity in West Vancouver, Vancouver’s westside and Richmond in early 2011 caused both the provincial and national average prices to temporarily spike, a phenomenon that’s not expected to repeat itself this year.

Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/business/prices+drop+sharply+this+year+report/6254346/story.html#ixzz1oJ0QGhRE

good-format
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good-format
4 years 6 months ago
Copied from PaulB’s number http://www.laurenandpaul.ca Date Listing Price(+-) Sold Inv Inv(+-) Feb 28 294 120 179 15,012 81 Feb 29 239 112 145 14,907 -105 Mar 01 313 94 123 14,912 5 Mar 02 251 97 163 14,919 7 Mar 05 338 134 118 15,069 150 Total-C 902 325 404 162 5 day-avg 287 111 146 54 Total-Est 6,355 2,441 3,170 16,095 1,188
jumpin in
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jumpin in
4 years 6 months ago

Sorry for the spam, but it feels so good 😉

Some of the big banks are suggesting Ottawa also consider implementing “measured actions” for the housing market, such as reducing the maximum amortization period for mortgages back to 25 years, and consider increasing the minimum down payment, possibly to 10 per cent.


“There’s a general feeling that more than just the condo market, the Canadian housing market, is starting to get a little bit overdone in terms of price momentum,” Shenfeld said.

Read more: http://www.canada.com/business/Flaherty+economists+warn+overheating+housing+market/6252767/story.html#ixzz1oJ2RtTiZ

Read more: http://www.canada.com/business/Flaherty+economists+warn+overheating+housing+market/6252767/story.html#ixzz1oJ27KIs2

Disbelief
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Disbelief
4 years 6 months ago

The Government is a big part of the blame just like it is here in the US a la Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. If the Feds hadn’t been screwing with the lending practices we certainly wouldn’t be in the bubble that Vancouver is in. Unfortunately tax payers who had nothing to do with it wil be on the hook for it post crash. Too bad the rich Asians will be long gone. On that leaky boat that they came here on.

VMD
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4 years 6 months ago

@jumpin in:
Good work jumpin in, you are keeping me busy tonight occupying the chinese RE forums. It’s kinda difficult for the realtors/pumpers to argue against their own RE associations, the finance minister, the bosses of TD/CIBC banks : )

jesse
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4 years 6 months ago

118. srsly? Come on Vancouver IT’S MARCH.

VMD
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4 years 6 months ago
@jumpin in: To quote the first paragraph of the article: “The federal government and some of the country’s leading economists remain worried about Canada’s housing market and rising household debt and are cautioning Canadians against borrowing too much. However, they are a little more optimistic about the overall state of the Canadian economy than they were just last fall, and now project stronger-than-expected growth in 2012. I’m getting the feeling that Flaherty is setting up the stage for the next round of mortgage tightening.. There had been(valid) concerns that a housing downturn will impact the country’s economy (to the tune… Read more »
logic
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logic
4 years 6 months ago

I do hope so. Mortgage tightening suits me, and will slash to “I can afford the monthly” crowd out of the market.

VMD
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4 years 6 months ago

The MISH article re: “See What $890,000 Buys In A Housing Bubble And After The Bubble Pops” had been re-published in Business Insider, and had made top-in-24-hours in digg.com

Canadian RE is truly world-class ; )

http://digg.com/newsbar/topnews/see_what_890_000_buys_in_a_housing_bubble_and_after_the_bubble_pops

fixie guy
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fixie guy
4 years 6 months ago

28 VMD Says: “There had been(valid) concerns that a housing downturn will impact the country’s economy (to the tune of every 10% drop in house price resulting in 1% drop in GDP).”

Shows the insanity of their economic policies. The real concern is they made our GDP that dependent on real estate.

patriotz
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4 years 6 months ago

@gordholio:
All the comments seem to have been removed.

All his points are nonsense, but the easiest one to pick apart is the “US is non-recourse” big lie. Only 1/4 of states, and not in all circumstances in those (i.e. all refis, HELOC’s, 2nds are recourse in California). Florida is full recourse.

Extremely rich Van house owner.
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Where is your Condo?
Another fake story from the Moon to support their doom day scenario.

vangrl
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vangrl
4 years 6 months ago

“@gordholio:
All the comments seem to have been removed.”

Can’t believe he removed the comments. last time I looked they were all tasteful and certainly didn’t warrant being removed!

http://www.hellovancity.com/2012/01/29/5-reasons-why-the-housing-market-wont-crash-real-estate-news-in-vancouver-january-2012/

mattymatt123
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mattymatt123
4 years 6 months ago

Finally!!! It looks as thou RE Armageddon is starting…

gordholio
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4 years 6 months ago

The comments magically reappeared! How did that happen? *cough*

Too bad they’re formatteed so poorly. Stupid cut and paste.

On another note, I see the Calgary Herald headline writer is extremely CREAtive:

http://www.calgaryherald.com/business/real-estate/Canadian+consumers+remain+bullish+real+estate+market/5717797/story.html

Mr Know It All
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Mr Know It All
4 years 6 months ago

Was picking up my wife at her friend’s condo.

Looked at the registry of names(you know…with the plastic letters).

12 were listed as “OCCUPIED”Hmmmm aka No one lives there?

Newer projects are all electronic screens..so harder to ID

Mortgageslave
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Mortgageslave
4 years 6 months ago

Once you make an offer on a house and sign the papers. Can you back out a day or two later or is there any recourse if you do? I can fill in the details in a bit just need to have a discussion with a friend who just signed his life away last night.

Bailing in BC
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Bailing in BC
4 years 6 months ago

@Mortgageslave:

Has the offer been accepted?

Is it subject to anything? Inspection or fiancing? If it is it could be pretty easy to get out of.

Is your friend having second thoughts or is it just you? If he’s happy about what he’s doing it will be pretty hard to change his tack.

Mortgageslave
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Mortgageslave
4 years 6 months ago

I asked him if he’s excited and he said “kind of nervous”. I would be too if I bought a 2500sq foot half duplex in Pitt Meadows for 500k.

Bailing in BC
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Bailing in BC
4 years 6 months ago
I think I just found it on the mls. Looks like it’s pretty close to some major rail yards. Seems nicer than the other duplexes in that price range. Good luck with your friend, now could be the exact wrong time to buy. Before you go too hard on him make sure that there is a loophole out. No one wants to hear that they have done something stupid when it’s too late. I’d start with this Sun article. http://www.vancouversun.com/business/prices+drop+sharply+this+year+report/6254346/story.html#ixzz1oIzv9rtr When the message comes from the msm and crea it’s hard to ignore, and if prices drop 4% he’s lost… Read more »
SunBlaster
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SunBlaster
4 years 6 months ago

@ Mortgageslave

Don’t bother helping your friend with advise, it won’t work. If he bough a Half Duplex in PittMedows for $500K he needs A PROFESSIONAL HELP!

vangrl
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vangrl
4 years 6 months ago
Kind of irritating that Garth never admits that he’s wrong or that his timing is terrible. The quote below is a commenter on his blog (not me) “Garth, Generally I agree with your views and have learned much from your blogs. However, the crazy RE agent you quoted above wasn’t far off the truth in one part of his rant – “…how about the people that listened to your ******** for the last 4 years and missed out on MASSIVE opportunities?” Anyone who sold real estate a few years ago, in order to escape the downturn you’ve been predicting, acted… Read more »
Fraud investor
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Fraud investor
4 years 6 months ago

Canadian house bubble trouble, it’s an interesting analysis article to read.

http://canadabubble.com/bubble-watch/2324-canadian-bubble-trouble.html

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