Vancouver ain’t what it used to was going to be

Two former city planners who were fired by councils over differences of opinion are in the Vancouver Sun complaining about a lack of planning.

That would be a lack of planning for future city growth.

They are joined in their concern by a third former city planner who retired in 2006.

“I come back to Vancouver and more and more I worry that here we have become incredibly complacent about the future we are going to face,” said Beasley. “To me there is no question. I don’t feel vague about it, I don’t think it is unknowable, we are going to have a big affordability problem in this city. That affordability could in fact be the defining reality and image in this city by 2050. It is already becoming the alternate image of this city that goes along with the beauty and all that.”

He said the region needs a “brand new” metropolitan plan, “a plan that thinks about the issues of the future, a plan that is not shy, a plan that does not have parameters and you can’t talk about this and you can’t talk about that. And until we get that plan, we are not going to solve the problems of the inner city, the affordability, our heritage program, our culture, whether we have enough office space. We just are not going to solve it unless we get a much broader concept of our metropolitan core and we get a plan for it.”

Toderian said in his term as planning director he tried to start a new citywide plan but could not get past “obsolete” local neighbourhood plans that have only made the problem worse.

Can you plan a great city, or can a great city just happen in a pretty place?

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@107 Anonymous: Sure, your solution of funneling ever more money into TranLink has been a roaring success so far.
User based fees are depressingly common knowledge, vigorously debated longer than you’ve been alive. That ‘your moderators’ see it as novel and clever supports my suspicion.

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@patriotz: …..If insurance rates would be lower without ICBC the Socreds/Liberals would have gotten rid of it decades ago. It would be an extremely popular move. Isn’t that obvious? ….

You’re overlooking the documented fact that the Provincial Government regularly skims profits off the top of ICBC. If thy were to git rid of it, they’d be giving up a cash source – not a good incentive to get rid of it.

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@Anonymous: ….Think of high ICBC rates (are they high compared to elsewhere?) as a vehicle levy designed to discourage driving…..

You mean like how I, who cycle to work, and put about 4k km’s per year on my car, pay the same insurance as some guy driving in every day from south Surrey and who puts 25k km’s on every year?

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@Anon:

No, the auto insurance rates in BC suck because we have government bureaucrats controlling the insurance “market”.

Here in Ottawa I pay only about 20% less for auto insurance despite the city having far better drivers, a much lower accident rate, and far less auto theft.

If insurance rates would be lower without ICBC the Socreds/Liberals would have gotten rid of it decades ago. It would be an extremely popular move. Isn’t that obvious?

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@Aleks:
“The clearest sign to me that Vancouver the provincial government has no plan is the Canada Line. ”

It was their decision.

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@Anon: Think of high ICBC rates (are they high compared to elsewhere?) as a vehicle levy designed to discourage driving. It also reduces taxes from other means; if you lower ICBC rates look for higher taxes elsewhere.

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That condo index that was running a couple of years ago gave me an idea for a new “Mondo Condo” report. 7 of the top 11 condo’s with the most units for sale were built within the past year – that can’t be healthy especially if you are one of the flippers!

http://vancouverpricedrop.wordpress.com/2012/07/17/mondo-condo-listings-july-17-2012/

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@Vote Down The Facts:

No, the auto insurance rates in BC suck because we have government bureaucrats controlling the insurance “market”. If we had a real market rates would fall in half.

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Boogeybear Says: This means increasing property taxes as property values fall.

This is the solution IMHO. Prop taxes need to be up around 3%.

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@UnagiDon: “In contrast, a friend in the UK pays 300 GBP (<$450) per year for her car insurance. Is such a low rate available anywhere in BC for anyone? I doubt it."

Such low rates are unavailable because people in BC drive like shit. It's the only place I've ever driven where you can be the only car on the road for miles except the asshole who has decided to take up residence in your blind spot.

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Today’s Sales 135
Post-July 9 sales in this total 21

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@Anonymous: walking speed is 5-6 km/h, which would mean a 2.5 hour commute. Cycling on the other hand ….

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@admin:

Just replace the “B” that you’re using to get bold text with the word “blockquote”

Thanks!

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@admin:

I would love to see it.

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New Listings 307
Back On Market Listings 17
Price Changes 220
Sold Listings 197

All Lower Mainland

26 of the 197 were after July 9th

SALES
28 townhouse
3 manufactured houses
85 houses
3 duplex
78 apartments

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@G: The site was rebuilt at the beginning of this year and the tracker was a casualty. Is there much demand to get it working again?

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@Dr. Nick Riviera: Just replace the “B” that you’re using to get bold text with the word “blockquote”

Here’s a little more info:
http://vancouverpeak.com/wp_super_faq/how-do-i-format-my-comments-with-html/

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SUBNOTE

Oh, and my reference to ‘you’ is not directed to the Dr or anyone else, done in pure context.

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@Dr. Nick Riviera:

I agree all’s well here with Riviera 🙂

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Condo Unit Listing Tracker

I saw there was a link for this, but it doesn’t work now?
http://vancouvercondo.info/2010/05/downtown-condo-unit-list-tracker-index.html

Anyone?

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@Dr. Nick Riviera: Actually Dr., ya missed my jocularity, my fault. I’m in the process of returning to BC after a couple of weeks in La Belle Province. I’m scared. I am really, really scared. Why am I scared, you might ask? Well, I am seriously afraid someone will spew ‘the best place on earth’ to me and I could conceivably choke on my tongue in a fit of laughter. I am not a Francophone, my French is minimal. I just spent a couple of weeks with friendly, open, cultured people in amazing cities of significant history. I won’t even get into the food. French cuisine over pulled pork in a converted plumbers truck. Mansions in Old QC for a million and a half vs a moldy shack in Burnaby. Roads that move!!! People who understand the basic concept of… Read more »
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@chilled: We are getting along. Friendly disagreement is all.

Argh!! Someone tell me how to use the quote function!!! Its driving me crazy!!!! (although I’ve figured out how to bold though)

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As the late Rodney King would say;

“can’t we…..all get along?”

Navin R. Johnson
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@Dr. Nick Riviera:

I also went to Oregon this summer and I do agree with that assessment. Still spent a pile.

What I found interesting is that a person can bring back a lot more now vs. a couple years ago. Did the Feds. do that to make Canadian retailers close to the border lower their prices to keep up with south of the border competition. In other words, erase the gouging happening north of the border despite the dollars being on par?

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@Navin R. Johnson: Well, people certainly like to complain about inflation , taxes, and “how hard it is to make ends meet” blah blah blah. They complain about it, and yet still seem to have no problem driving their $50k financed SUV to the US and picking up a $600 ipad or iphone for their kids, with corresponding $70/month bill, who will tote that i-whatever on a school trip to France for the summer or maybe some expensive hockey camp etc. so they can Facetime or whatever these little shits are doing nowadays, not really giving a fuck about the Louvre anyway, they would rather just update their facebook entries etc. You get what I’m saying — spend spend spend. Or maybe they will be “prudent” and buy the daughter lululemon pants and an LV bag so she fits in… Read more »