Friday Free-for-all-fail!

Remember Friday?

That’s the day when we post our regular end of the week news round up and open topic discussion thread for the weekend – our so called ‘Friday free-for-all!’

Slipped in there with 20 minutes to spare!

What? You’ve never forgotten to update a blog with a regular feature you’ve been running for years?

Here’s a few links to kick off the chat:

IMF spotlight on booms and busts
Who wants a depreciation report?
Steele on whose side?
Definitely not Poloz fault
Dutch disease.. is that bad?

So what are you seeing out there? Post your news links, thoughts and anecdotes here and have an excellent weekend!

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Uncle Tom
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Uncle Tom

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/ken-denike-sophia-woo-expelled-from-npa-caucus-over-lgbtq-stance-1.2675495

So apparently some realtors are calling for the school board to delay implementation of the new transgender policy as they think foreigners won’t come to study here. WOW. Regardless of how you feel about this issue, it’s ridiculous that these trustees would bow down to the wishes of realtors. Disgusting.

Romeo Jordan
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Romeo Jordan

Why r we letting these people into our country?

Lifetime Renter
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Lifetime Renter
In response to Chip’s post 103 in the last thread: “Lifetime renter, So Asians don’t do well in school, whether it’s in Asia or in the West, because China still has rural migrant workers.” You completely missed my point. You are the one reducing the problems of the Canadian school system to a lack of something you call “Asian values” without spelling out what that means. Does Asian values include regions where, if you are unfortunate enough to be born with a womb, you will have little or no access to education? The same if you are the child of a worker or farmer. Or China where education means endless rote learning, including rote learning of the ‘truth’ as determined by their brutal and corrupt rulers. An ‘education’ designed to quash any spark of independent, critical thinking and ensure unquestioning… Read more »
Romeo Jordan
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Romeo Jordan

I am getting the impression that the machine is turning away from HAM buying and will continue to increasingly discourage HAM, which is slowly turning the tide towards an epic meltdown that will be in part blamed in the HAM factor.

They r counting the votes and realize there is an ups well that wants the leeches gone.

Fuck ya.

Barb Rennie
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Barb Rennie

Romeo Jordan says:
“I am getting the impression that the machine is turning away from HAM buying and will continue to increasingly discourage HAM”

Where do you “get this impression” from you tard? If it from the our government promoting another IIP program in Asian? Or from the thousands of temporary school and work visas? Or is it from Vancouver’s mayor speaking chinese?

Bo Xilai
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Bo Xilai

#1, Uncle Tom

I always had the impression the NPA and Vision’s most ferocious fight was to see who could lick the realty industry’s boots the most enthusiastically… Every realtor, real estate developer and marketer’s boot was guaranteed to be kissed enthusiastically by Vancouver’s municipal politicians.

johnyboy
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johnyboy

Ken Denike, Sophia Woo you should be ashamed of yourselves. At least say you are ethically or religiously against the change but to say:

At the news conference Denike and Woo told reporters that realtors are concerned about the policy’s potential negative impact on the enrolment of international students as well as public school students on Vancouver’s west side.

Who gives a $hit what realtors think about this proposal. Is our city sooo beholden to the real estate industry that all public policy has to be rubber stamped by them.

This is beyond bizarre.

PBS
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PBS

@1

Money is power.

Closing our eyes and pertending that foreign money isn’t rescaling the city in a bad way is naive. Pertending it isn’t going to get worse is naive.

They won’t win this roud, but their money and influence is only growing and their intentions are clear.

The next time a customer at McDonald’s demands the staff speak mandarin they just may be taken seriously.

The Solution
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The Solution

In reference to the NPA comments regarding foreigners reluctance to invest because of LGBT issues – the solution to stem the tide is obvious!

Have a pride parade every weekend up and down every HAM filled neighbourhood until they move their closed-minded ignorant asses someplace else.

Romeo Jordan
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Romeo Jordan

Barb Rennie (Beatch),

It’s from CMHC releasing some foreign buying data, the banks saying we don’t have this data don’t blame us but maybe start to spoon feed it to the media so we can blame them. It is from osfi review of lending to “new canadians” standard different from us who have to show income verification – watch and wait, more new rules and regulations to come.

For now, go back to the hole you crawled out from
I will tell you when it is time to come out.

Do it.

T
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T

@10 any links?

I’d love for this to be true.

Re: NPA & LBGT
On the bright side the NPA has kicked out 2 admittied real estate shills. Although this might be because they blew their cover.

patriotz
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@11:

The NPA has never tried to cover its shilling for the RE industry. Take a look at their platform in the last civic election.

What they had a problem with is 1) Two of their elected members appearing intolerant of the LGBT community (social conservatism by politicians is a loser in Vancouver and they’ve long known it) and 2) The same members making the Chinese community appear intolerant (actually true but it’s bad optics).

patriotz
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Romeo Jordan
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Romeo Jordan

$1.55 gas is not going to encourage the great unwashed to go out and buy pre-sale condos and upgrade from a condo (condo prices are going down) to a sfh.

The shitstorm which is now only subtly underway, will gather momentum and intensity.

Believe it. Fact.

George
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George
@Lifetime Renter #3 “I see the teachers’ strike as a push back against that program.” I couldn’t agree with you more. That’s why I support the teachers. The teachers are on strike to help improve the education system for our kids. CTV news had a report about parents in Langley crossing the teachers’ picket line so they could go into the school and teach their own kids. One parent said she supports the teachers, but she supports her kids more. She said this isn’t about the teachers, it’s about the kids. What a misguided fool that parent is. If you support your kids and want them to have an excellent education, they you would support the teachers too. Those two are not mutually exclusive. The schools don’t have enough money to give the kids the education they deserve. When I… Read more »
George
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George

I also agree with those of you posting here about the ridiculousness of school trustees advocating on behalf of the real estate industry.

This one will have the politically correct left wing twisted in knots. The left says we cannot criticize our immigration policies that encourage very wealthy immigrants to come here and buy up real estate because that would be racist. The left also says we should tolerate transgendered people. The problem is many of the wealthy immigrants are themselves intolerant of transgendered people. So what is the position of the politically correct left on that? Are we supposed to tolerate the intolerance of rich Chinese immigrants? Is it racist to be intolerant of the intolerance of rich Chinese immigrants? What are the limits of tolerance? This is exposing a major failure of multiculturalism.

T
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T

@George

As far as I know, being LGBT is not against the cultural values of any nationality. It is against some religions but the lefties stood up to the Christians, so there’s no problems with them standing up against the Muslims and Buddhists.

Asia does not discriminate against LGBT. China and the Muslim countries may have a problem, but that in no way is a cultural practice.

This isn’t a failure of multiculturalism, it is a failure of entitled immigrants pulling out the race card.

George
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George

@ T #17

Your comment is so wrong and full of ignorance that it is disturbing. Levels of acceptance of LGBT is very much a cultural issue that varies from country to country and even within the same country over time. It’s not all about religion. Many refugees enter Canada on the basis of discrimination in their home country for being gay.

“Asia does not discriminate against LGBT.”

This is from the wikipedia page on “Homosexuality in China”:

“However, despite these changes, no civil rights law exists to address discrimination or harassment on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity. The media tends to censor positive depictions of gay couples in films and television shows and households headed by same-sex couples are not permitted to adopt children and do not have the same privileges as heterosexual married couples.”

chip
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chip
Lifetime, Let’s break down your argument. Suicide, propaganda, earthquakes, capitalism evil, and BC unions leading the fight. Good grief. And yet, Asia is on the rise (after embracing capitalism), half of Silicon Valley are immigrants from the East, Canadian test scores are sliding with every PISA survey, and Canadian math profs are signing petitions because high school grads are hopeless. And you really have no idea about education in Asia. It’s not rote learning. That’s why the top IB schools are in Asia, and my kids math exams are all problem solving all the time. No two questions are the same. When my son returned to Canada from Singapore he skipped a grade, and still found it too easy. After two years in Canada we returned to Singapore, and they wanted to put him back a year because he was… Read more »
George
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George
T said: “Asia does not discriminate against LGBT.” Singapore is in Asia, right? In Singapore, gay sex is illegal and may be punished with caning. From sgwiki: In the early and mid-1990s, the police conducted undercover sting operations using handsome agents provocateurs in certain places such as Katong Park, the reclaimed land at Tanjong Rhu and even at East Coast Park where gay men were known to cruise or solicit for sex. From 1990-94, 50 homosexuals were charged under section 354. The usual punishment in 1993 was 2 to 6 months’ imprisonment plus caning, usually 3 strokes… In the by-now infamous Club One-Seven incident, 3 undercover policemen entered a gay sauna on 23 July 2001 at about 1855 hours, climbed over a cubicle and arrested 2 men who were having sex in it. They were charged under section 20 of… Read more »
Yunak
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Yunak

Those retrograde and primitive HAM forces supported by local greedy but shortsighted quasi-politicians are setting up this society for disaster. Beside that I am seriously impressed how far impudence of those mind-screwed bastards like Jane Wang can go as they probably think this the same Chinese village where they came from and where they ruled.

http://blogs.vancouversun.com/2014/06/14/npa-turfs-two-school-trustees-after-they-link-real-estate-with-lgbgt-rights/

George
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George
@ T # 17 T said: “It is against some religions but the lefties stood up to the Christians, so there’s no problems with them standing up against the Muslims and Buddhists.” The left says it’s okay to criticize Christianity, butit’s not okay to criticize Islam. I’ve actually had left wing university professors rail against the sexism of Christian society and then argue that the Muslim practice of requiring women to wear burqas is not sexist. Their arguement is women have more freedom when they wear burqas because then they are not seen as sexual objects. Then there is the case of the York University male student who is Muslim who asked his professor to be excused from an assignment that involved group work with other females students because it contradicted his religion. The professor refused the request (rightly so,… Read more »
T
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T

Hey George,

Why don’t you do the same search for Thailand, Vietnam, Laos, Combodia, Korea, and Japan? Re-read my words, they were :
“Asia does not discriminate against LGBT”
“China and the Muslim countries may have a problem”

Is this a strawman argument you’re trying to pull? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

I’ll admit the LGBT rights aren’t all on par in those countries, but they aren’t beaten, stoned, or jailed for kissing in public.

” This is from the wikipedia page on “Homosexuality in China”:

“The media tends to censor positive depictions of gay couples in films and television shows and households headed by same-sex couples are not permitted to adopt children and do not have the same privileges as heterosexual married couples.” ”

I believe that is the same for for most of the US states.

George
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George

T is trying to argue that the anti-transgender stance of many of the parents in Vancouver has nothing to do with Chinese cultural beliefs. The problem with that argument is that many of the parents opposed to the transgender policy are citing their Chinese cultural beliefs as the reason why they are against the policy. From the SCMP:

“”I think this goes to Chinese family values,” said Chang on Monday. “Many [opponents of the plan] are Christian, but many are not, and so this is about family values, and the ability of parents to parent their children and not have that disturbed by the school system.”

http://www.scmp.com/news/world/article/1517362/school-transgender-policy-angers-vancouvers-chinese-christians

T
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T

Well I’m not Chinese so I can’t speak on their cultural beliefs.

That wiki article you cited on “homesuality in china” has brief on ancient china. It also mentioned that it was only frowned upon in the PRC’s version of China and was also recently legalized.

Those people are just parents being parents, no parents want to see their kid transgendered. The educated accept it, the ignorant shun it.

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