Friday Free-for-all! March 10 2017

It’s the end of another beautiful work week and that means it’s time for another Friday Free-for-all! This is our standard issue end-of-the-week news round up and open topic discussion thread for the weekend.

Here are a few recent links to kick off the chat:

First time buyer loan problems
China capital outflows reverse
Early signs of financial crisis
Interest rate hikes
Laneway Stratas
Elections BC probe fundraising
Squeeze profits from customers

So what are you seeing out there? Post your news links, thoughts and anecdotes here and have an excellent weekend!

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Dan
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This city,province,country,is fukd (2’d)! The end soon!
Dan

patriotz
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Overweight real estate and underweight income, couple needs to diversify before retirement hits

Yet another BC boomer couple betting on RE. And – surprise, surprise:

They defer house property taxes via a B.C. program that charges persons over 55 simple interest of 0.7 per cent per year repayable when the house is sold.

Just me
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Just me

Thanks Christy. Welfare for homeowners.

Dave
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Thanks for the reminder. I’m going to switch my municipal taxes over… don’t hate the playa…

fomostyle
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fomostyle

Ahhh. You’re a boomer…

Dave
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Nope. Gen X.

Dave
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Hey VCI Admin, how do I email you? I’d like to post a commentary for next .Monday.

Hyper-mega-Bull
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VCI Admin, i would also like to post market commentary monday. if Dave agrees can you include this picture with his post?

https://media.giphy.com/media/26xBEamXwaMSUbV72/giphy.gif

thanks.

history
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here is my comment for this hour, on this day

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C40zc70VcAARILa.jpg

the above link takes you to an Analysis of Bitcoin transaction fees. It is why the global pig middlemen that profit grossly from exploiting The Queens usurous debt backed labour money, are so worried, and fighting a currency war.

Dave
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But… the transaction costs of switching from cash to Bitcoin and vice versa are significant. Isn’t it about a 5% round trip? I think that’s what I paid.

I wonder what percent of Bitcoin transactions are Chinese money fleeing. It’s a great way around the $10,000 cap of cash.

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“How Canada’s big banks pumped up the housing bubble”, Macleans

http://www.macleans.ca/economy/economicanalysis/how-canadas-big-banks-pumped-up-the-housing-bubble/

“The banks earn big profits off soaring house prices, knowing that taxpayers will clean up the mess if the bubble pops. That has to change.”

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Of course banks want to pump the housing bubble: banks are in the debt creation business. They love higher prices, higher debt loads, and a bunch of debt slaves. As long as you pay them the interest on their newly created debt, they’re happy.
Now get back to work Canadians you’ve got mortgage payments to make!

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KickThemOut
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Those two needs to get into a white knuckled, no holds barred fight and just get it over already….geez…it’s what 50 years now? You can tell both of them are just horny for round 2 and the build-up is killing them both. Everyone should just stand aside and let those duke it out once and all, release all that pent up energy.

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That is one of the worst ideas I’ve ever heard. The world has caught glimpses of what North Korea has done to its own people, imagine what would happen to the South Koreans if they were invaded.

Combat roach
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Dark ages over there at North. They have no electricity since the Soviet Union fell apart. People are forced to collect their shit and report weekly to authorities to be used as fertilizer to support agriculture. Both China and Rusia take advantage of their situation and charge them top $ for things they desperately need but can’t produce. Tragic, poor NK people.

history
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a crisis is a terrible thing to waste. Both sides have been holding the Korea joker in their deck since PROC raised their flag, Oct 1, 3:01 pm, 1949, Peking.

Shut It Down Already
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Shut It Down Already

China provides the majority of food aid.

KickThemOut
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South Korea has the 2nd most advanced military after Japan in Asia ex-Indian subcontinent. Their military is trained professionally and at least well fed, unlike the North Korea army that subsist on a diet of beans & rice if they are lucky. Kim Jung-un(?) is the only fatty in North Korea.

KickThemOut
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Those lazy ass sluts used International Women’s Day as an excuse to get a paid day off, while the rest of us have to pick up their slack. Gosh….

Well, at least my ears get a rest from listening to their loud fake cute voices yapping in that grunt they call a language, and their pathetic English that I can’t tell if it is even English or Klingon have the time. How did these people graduate from UBC & SFU? Is there an alternate express program for the foreign students that have more $$$$$ than brain cells?

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Put your troll head back into your little fudge hole and don’t reproduce bitch!

Combat roach
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Perhaps you change the approach to the current situation at your work and instead take advantage of it, assuming those individuals are decently looking and perhaps interested in exploring possibilities?

KickThemOut
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Only with the boss since he has the power to fire them for incompetence which is pretty easy as they are incompetent. For the rest of us wage slaves, not so much.

But I do get free eye candy, yes.

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You have to excuse space, he’s always been a complete douche towards women.

Obviously the repeated rejection of his advances is at the root of his misogyny.

fomostyle
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fomostyle

Pope. Kill this ^ troll IP pls.

Newcomer
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Newcomer

Seconded. Way over the top.

Banned Oracle
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STFU Newcomer. Now are you indirectly benefiting or affiliated with relatives who launder money from China and buy BC homes?

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He’s already been booted once, now he’s back with a new name.

Krusty
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Krusty

Jeezus, what a bunch of losers.
Plain and simple. Buy or don’t. Your decision.
Too funny grown up men crying and whining on a daily basis here…should rename this blog “The gathering of losers”

KickThemOut
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They missed the 2006 bubble prices, the 2008 crash price, the 2010 bubble price, and 2014 before it really went crazy prices. If they can’t afford the 2008 crash price, what makes you think they can’t afford the current price? Even if their income is doubled?

bullwhip29
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hello, i needed to chime in for a brief moment…thought this was worth mentioning Elections BC hands political donations investigation to RCMP http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/elections-bc-hands-political-donations-investigation-to-rcmp-1.4019600 as an added (possible) twist to this whole story is the fact that the RCMP just named a new commanding office just days ago. one can only wonder if any higher power influenced either the outright change and/or the decision to appoint this specific person to take over the top position. without knowing anything specific i will take a guess that this “investigation” will at the very least drag on for many months (beyond election day) as the powers that be insist that all parties activities (not just the Libs) should be reviewed. not surprisingly, the MSM have been quite silent on the whole matter and seem to be more than willing to blabber on and on… Read more »
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Doomcouver
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I love it when lobbyists go to jail. I hope the RCMP have enough dirt on these scumbags to put them away.

Just me
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Just me

The current BC government must be one of the most corrupt local governments within North America. They have no shame to bribe, cheat, corrupt and generally make transfers to the rich homeowners.

Combat roach
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Not the “one of the most corrupt” but most corrupt government inNorth America. CC and BC government are political corruption’s poster child of this part of the world.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/13/world/canada/british-columbia-christy-clark.html?_r=0

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It’s more third world than the actual third world.

Massive corruption, graft, kickbacks, bribes and extortion.

Anybody who votes Liberal again is either a retard or a greedy homeowner.

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BubbleTea
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Globe: Investigation of political donations in B.C. referred to RCMP.
If the RCMP have balls, Krusty, you’re going to jail!
https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/investigation-of-political-donations-in-bc-referred-to-rcmp/article34266086/?ref=http://www.theglobeandmail.com&service=mobile

Screwed
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Screwed

They don’t.

Just me
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Just me

One can only dream.
But it does make you think: a poor guy who is caught stealing a 200 dollar TV is probably more likely to pay for his/her misdeed than a person like Christy, who pockets 50k from donors every month.

Whistler or Bust?
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Whistler or Bust?

5 yr. GOC Bond at a multi-year high. Lowest 5 yr. fixed from a major is now 2.89%.

I thinking within a few months sub 3% 5 yr’s will be history. Not sure if this will have any effect on Vancouver RE but it can’t be good for it.

Newcomer
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Newcomer

I sure hope so! This whole money-has-no-value thing makes it hard to get excited about earning it or saving it.

history
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history

its not about value, stupid. It’s about borrowing 10, and paying back 11. It cant be done. The criminal lenders are trying to hide it though. Insolvency scam allows a Forgiveness factor. Unfortunately this penalizes the people who Do pay their debts. Look around, and we talk about it here, the favoritism shown to the walking dead money borrowers, especially RE and its by-products.

BubbleTea
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BubbleTea

Macleans: How Canada’s big banks pumped up the housing bubble
The banks earn big profits off soaring house prices, knowing that taxpayers will clean up the mess if the bubble pops. That has to change.
http://www.macleans.ca/economy/economicanalysis/how-canadas-big-banks-pumped-up-the-housing-bubble/

Just me
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Just me

“B.C. Liberals must reform campaign finance rules, says former chief of staff”

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/martyn-brown-campaign-reforms-1.4019134

“There are so many huge flaws with the current system that everybody and his dog but the Liberals say is bad, outdated, and needs to be replaced,” he said.

history
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history

Here’s a bubble not mentioned

Leisure Travel

peak spending on leisure travel, yknow, endless trips to Cuba, Hawaii, Cabo, blah. blah, Peru is on my bucket list… and blah, blah. blah, snorkling with whales, paddleboarding in Valarta.. the rescendo is deafening. When is Peak leisure travel spending? age 54. Global peak fertility in The West? 1962.

And how is it all paid?

with countless trips to the Heloc broker.

the bubble is in leisure travel, not homes. People got it backwards. MSM spooks know it, so they feed the sheep with endless Globe, MacLeans, and CBC RE prop… hacking at the branches, leaving the roots untouched.

Just me
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Just me

One thing is true: this city is split in two groups. Homeowners who made out like bandits and use their equity to spend the winter in sunny places; everyone else (including many nominally highly paid professionals/doctors) who keep working and running the city in the hope of ever affording a place that is not a shoebox.

Bear Vancouverite
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Bear Vancouverite

You are a high earner, are you telling me you take no vacations and can’t afford them?

Just me
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Just me

Sadly, I cannot semiretire and move to Florida for half of the year.

Just me
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Just me

“Douglas Todd: A smarter tax would ease Vancouver’s housing crisis”

http://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/douglas-todd-a-smarter-tax-would-ease-vancouvers-housing-crisis

From the article:

Clearly, the 15 per cent surtax on foreign buyers has been helpful, but it’s not enough to significantly cool the fiery market. This week Sotheby’s Realty said the surtax would soon stop being an impediment to offshore investors.

And Premier Christy Clark has already relaxed surtax, allowing a potential 170,000 international students and other non-permanent residents in B.C. to serve as proxies for non-resident buyers who don’t pay Canadian income taxes.

The B.C. Liberals also announced interest-free mortgages for first-time buyers, which realtor Steve Saretsky says has incited bidding wars on condos. That’s sunny news for the real estate industry, which in a decade donated $12 million to the party.

KickThemOut
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KickThemOut

Can we ban this f*ing Bullshit29 troll like we did with space889? For heavens sake, this is a real estate blog, not a let’s trash BC Libs so they don’t get elected site. If you hate the BC Libs, fine! Go to a political blog. Don’t spam the blog with your off topic personal pet peeves and endless links.

stick to RE and what influences it, not your hate for BC Libs. They aren’t the main problem. It’s the HAM and dirty money and low interest rate. Get rid of those, and RE prices will fall, even with the most corrupt and incompetent gov’t.

patriotz
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“It’s the HAM and dirty money and low interest rate. Get rid of those”

Has it not occurred to you that ONLY government can do anything about those? Do you think if we pray hard enough God will stop them? BC has a chance in May to choose between a government that is bought and paid for by the RE industry, and one that has proposed some modest measures in the right direction. Relevant enough for you?

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Space, how did you get around the IP ban?

Are you using a VPN or the neighbors computer?

paulb
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New
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Price Change
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TI:8167

http://www.clivestevepaul.com

Hyper-mega-Bull
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Hyper-mega-Bull

“Awful Park – Racist Patrons and Performances!” 1 of 5 bubbles
Review of Hong Kong Disneyland

https://www.tripadvisor.ca/ShowUserReviews-g294217-d543602-r465928751-Hong_Kong_Disneyland-Hong_Kong.html

Van real estate buff
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Mar 10, 2017 Daily Video Review of Vancouver Real Estate Housing Bubble Newshttps://youtu.be/mrNf8FAjV_w

southseacompany
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“Tri-City home prices drop in the last year”, Tri-City News

http://www.tricitynews.com/news/tri-city-home-prices-drop-in-the-last-year-1.11468360

“Homeowners in the Tri-Cities who bought during last year’s real estate frenzy have likely seen the value of their houses decrease.”

“Over the last six months, the benchmark prices for all residential property in Coquitlam fell 4.3% to $748,100 while Port Coquitlam saw a decrease of 2.4% to $588,400 and Port Moody fell 0.5% to $770,000, according to data from the Real Estate Board of Greater Vancouver (REBGV).”

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“U.S. added 235,000 jobs in February, making Fed rate hike likely”, CBC

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/us-employment-february-1.4019246

“U.S. employers added a robust 235,000 jobs in February and raised pay at a healthy pace, making it all but certain that the Federal Reserve will raise short-term interest rates next week.”

fomostyle
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Oh good. More affordable units under construction in Vancouver (eye roll). Studios starting at $1.158,000!

https://www.buzzbuzzhome.com/ca/alberni-by-kengo-kuma

No Money Down
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No Money Down

Realtor Flyer in my mailbox yesterday (Cambie)

“Detached home sales (3) were really down for February 2017 when compared to the same month last year (18).

“..2 sales were below their 2016 tax assessment values and one was above.

Average Sale
Feb 2017 $2.35M
Feb 2016 $2.78M

“The detached market remains slower than last year, but hopefully after the recent changes to the foreign buyer’s tax as well as the snow melting the market will really pick up…

Just me
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Any news who will be allowed to buy under the reformed foreign buyers tax? If they let students in, we are back to square one.

Voting for Christy Clark is voting for higher prices.

Banned Oracle
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Students are in. They have automatic work permits. Thats the new IIP program x 10…hence the spike in prices the last 2 years.

C’mon, we should even be debating this anymore.

Ulsterman
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A friend from Northern Ireland just posted a link to a luxury home in a central, and highly desirable neighborhood of Belfast. It is asking £800k or C$1,280,000. When i showed him an East van dump on a 33 foot lot selling for more, he simply couldn’t believe it could be true. I don’t need to post the Vancouver shit-box link because you know there are so many out there like it, but here’s the Belfast house link – hopefully the site lets me post the link.

https://www.propertypal.com/18-cherryvalley-knock-belfast/446568/video

Hyper-mega-Bull
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and the the two prices make perfect sense because there is no international money flooding into belfast and n. ireland has the lowest immigration rates in the uk.

might as well post a mansion in nova scotia.

Burnaby
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The two prices do not make “perfect sense” rather it points out the distortions in the markets caused by illegal offshore cash.

Hyper-mega-Bull
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Hyper-mega-Bull

If a price is justified by demand, as you just admitted, it makes perfect sense.

patriotz
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Immigration and foreign money inflows are not a justification for inflated prices, because governments have the power to keep prices under control regardless of these factors.

Just me
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Just me

Agreed. As Douglas Todd summarized nicely, we are not short of valid tax options to limit the influence of “RE investors” in our market.
What we lack is a political will to do so.

Funkeymonkey
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Funkeymonkey

Belfast is no Nova Scotia!
Hey let’s compare Vancouver to San Francisco

Ulsterman
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Belfast isn’t London, that’s for sure, but other than that you couldn’t be more wrong HMB. This March 3, 2017 article describes Belfast nicely. Also, let’s not pretend that the flood of money into Vancouver somehow makes it cool or cosmopolitan. The “international” money is Chinese money, and there’s very little that’s cool or cosmopolitan about China.

“Why Belfast Is the Emerging Capital of Cool”

http://travelinsider.qantas.com.au/europe/northern-ireland/belfast/why-belfast-is-one-of-europes-hottest-travel-destinations

So no, may as well NOT post a mansion in Nova Scotia

Hyper-mega-Bull
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Good for Belfast. No one is saying Chinese money is improving Vancouver. We are saying it is here and more is coming so act accordingly. Don’t stick your head in the sand.

Ulsterman
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“lowest immigration rates in the uk” One of the great delights of returning home to visit family and friends is that Belfast has improved immeasurably in terms of technology, entertainment, sophisticated restaurants, and restoration of historic areas, at YET, the people are just the same. I guess I’m a bad person for being happy about this, but i do like the fact that over there the people have a common culture.

HMB life’s complicated, so please don’t suggest that i go back if Belfast’s THAT good – Vancouver has it’s advantages too. Local people here should be able to enjoy the mountains, beaches, and seawall like many previous generations have done without needing a lottery win to live where they grew up.

Newcomer
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It makes you a bit of a hypocrite. You come here and dilute our culture, even though you see that as a negative thing to do. You are also being changed by our culture as a result of being here and then dragging that change back to Belfast. It would be more consistent if you just stayed where you were born.

Ulsterman
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Not really, my European ancestors created the Canadian culture. I came here and spoke the official language, adapted my vocabulary to Canadian norms, and participated in Canadian customs and traditions. I didn’t ask Canada to modify anything to accommodate my needs. I do not know any other Irish people in Vancouver – all my friends are born and bred Canadians. I will go to Irish pubs but in no way seek them out. I haven’t been to an Irish restaurant since i got here – i assume there aren’t any. So I don’t think i’ve diluted Canadian culture at all. I do see it as a negative when people come here and don’t learn English or speak it at home with their kids. They hang out almost exclusively with their own people. Hold strata meeting in their own language. Set… Read more »
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I cannot agree. I have many Irish friends and relatives and the culture is just not the same as the Candian culture. For example, if you had grown up here, you would not feel comfortable expressing the xenophobic, Anglocentric sentiment that you are espousing. That’s just not part of Canadian culture, but it is part of Northan Irish culture. And it’s fine. Canada is richer for your different perspective. If you have kids, they will see it and, if you stay long enough, you may see it too.

Burnaby
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Burnaby

What a beautiful and tastefully designed and furnished house on a fantastic piece of property. Then look at the garbage in Vancouver for much more money. Also, no “wok kitchens” or “feng shui” offset sidewalk silliness or baroque ugly and tasteless furniture there that’s for sure.

MarKoz
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What a gorgeous house!

Ulsterman
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To add to my previous post, just look at the quality of the realtor’s listing. Professional video, lots of detail, well-written description. They’ll be lucky to make 1% in fees. The buyer won’t even retain a realtor. They’ll look it up on this device known as “the internet” and if they are interested they’ll contact the selling agent. Voila! For a modest fee, the legalities will be handled by a “professional” – otherwise known as a solicitor.

Hyper-mega-Bull
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Hyper-mega-Bull

how much exactly do you think ‘lots of detail’ and a ‘well-written description’ ads to the cost of a listing?

professional video is cheaper than it has ever been which is why agents use it more and more.

real expenses professional staging if they choose to do that.

Ulsterman
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No cost at all obviously. I was taking a swipe at our “professional realtors” who put up 4 grainy, poorly-framed photos and a semi-literate paragraph of abbreviations. They make a far larger percentage of a far larger sales prices than realtors in the UK, and their website listings are significantly inferior.

Burnaby
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Craigslist has the same basic mapping feature now that Realtor.ca has whereby a property can be located on a map of the local area and then zoomed in for the details. This is IMO the last thing that using a realtor was needed for; to get your house on the MLS website. If I can post it myself on Craigslist, then why would I bother to hire a realtor for 5-6-7% MLS commission? I think there has got to be a breaking point soon with the stranglehold that realtors have on the market once people realize a realtor is not needed in most cases.

specuskeptic
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I think this can be expanded a bit. If the business model being used relies on information asymmetry, its days are numbered. (RE industry among others) I’m referring to googleable type information and not skill sets. There are some property transfer laws/procedures and taxes and whatnot that need to be handled, but a lawyer for an afternoon is probably a lot cheaper than 5-7% of a home’s value.

Shut It Down Already
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It’d be crazy not to use a realtor when selling. Sure, when buying go solo if you really want.

Hyper-mega-Bull
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Woman smuggled rare species parts through YVR

Xiu Mei Cui pleaded guilty to importing items made from African and Asian elephants, lions and white rhinoceros

http://www.richmond-news.com/news/woman-smuggled-rare-species-parts-through-yvr-1.11476459

Newcomer
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Did they find any real estate in her bags?

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Most likely the illegal profits from this grotesque trade in endangered animal species would have ended up buying local real estate.

You’re really not a “big picture” kind of person yet you see fit to tell others what’s acceptable discussion according to your narrow views.

Newcomer
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So your theory is that smuggling endangered animals is a Vancouver RE price driver? That’s a pretty big picture you are seeing.

And yes, I find it acceptable to call people on promoting hate against identifiable minority groups. In fact, I find it a moral requirement of being a decent Canadian. Silence is assent.

Just me
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If a large number of people from a specific group commit fraud and launder money, shall we just pretend they are not from that group?
Is crime OK if it is committed by a sufficiently large group from a single minority?

Shut It Down Already
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Clueless. You are truly clueless.

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“So your theory is that smuggling endangered animals is a Vancouver RE price driver? ”

Didn’t say it was a “price driver”, liar.

You are some piece of work.

Newcomer
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If it’s not a price driver, how is it relevant to this blog? Your argument was, “Most likely the illegal profits from this grotesque trade in endangered animal species would have ended up buying local real estate.

You’re really not a “big picture” kind of person….” You were arguing that it was germane because it impacted real estate in a major way, which is to say, that it was a driver. For example, but you wouldn’t post stories about someone working a desk job in Burnaby, even though the proceeds might go into real estate.

I would have thought you could follow a conversation, and yet you forgot what you argued just one line earlier. You show a clear pattern of high/low irregular cognitive capacity. This is another indicator of substance abuse.

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You are not too far off the mark.
I would quite comfortable betting some money that the seller of such good would have used the illicit proceeds to buy some “investment” properties.

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The apologists for large scale criminal behaviour by an “identifiable minority” don’t see it that way.

They would rather protect this group – the crooks know it and take advantage of it.

Newcomer
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That’s a downside of having principles but in the overall, principles are what has created the civilization you are so afraid of seeing overwhelmed. I would urge you to be the civilization you want to protect.

Shut It Down Already
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There’s no “minority group” to protect here. It was an individual and your toxic imagination is running wild again.

Newcomer
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Everyone is an individual, but HMB posted about this individual because she has a Chinese name, as confirmed by Meth and the other guy. Try to keep up man, it makes it more fun.

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I posted about this because it further demonstrates that Vancouver is in the sinosphere.

Given the weather creation in China, it’s huge population and Vancouver’s position as the most Chinese city in n. America the implications for real estate should be obvious.

Have u been living under a rock for the past decade and a half?

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Right. That is, you were promoting hate against an identifiable minority group. I get it. We all get it. But looks like Shut It Down was sleeping at the wheel.

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I actually hate the local apologists, traitors and protectors of the offshore crooks destroying our city more than I hate the offshore crooks destroying our city.

You and shut it down are no different than the politicians and real estate industry vermin who play the race card to shut people up.

Bear Vancouverite
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Bear Vancouverite

“You and shut it down are no different than the politicians and real estate industry vermin who play the race card to shut people up.”

Except that Newcomer is against speculation of housing, wants prices to come down, is considering voting the NDP, and wants to punish speculators who leave houses empty. The only thing he tries to shut you up for are the constant calls to nuke China, and the desire to put bullets in people.

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“the constant calls to nuke China”?

Oh no, it’s far too late to do that now.

What I’ve said is that china should have been nuked in the 50’s.

If you can find an instance where I said china should be nuked presently I’d love to see it.

Egad
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Egad

If you hate the truth, its your own problem.

Newcomer
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Newcomer

Indeed. I recognize that my inability to stand by in the face of evil is entirely my own problem.

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