Your car insurance is going up.

BC Drivers pay some of the highest car insurance rates in the country while receiving the lowest payouts, and yet somehow ICBC is out of money.

A recent report from Ernst & Young painted a dire picture at the Crown corporation, concluding that rates must increase by 30 per cent by 2019 to cover costs. A separate forecast released last November by ICBC indicated rates would need to increase by 42 per cent over the next five years to make up for expenses.

McCandless pointed to a footnote in the ICBC report that an additional $1.5 billion is required in “capital from other sources” between 2017 and 2020. He calculated the cumulative rate hike to be closer to 117 per cent over four years.

ICBC says the problem stems from an increase in car accidents, other people blame politics.

Eby and other ICBC supporters single out the actions of former Liberal premier Gordon Campbell as marking the beginning of the corporation’s troubles.

Campbell required ICBC to keep much higher amounts of backup capital. The resulting stockpile proved irresistible to politicians in 2010 following the global financial meltdown, critics say, when the government began siphoning hundreds of millions of dollars of “excess capital” almost every year.

In all, the Liberals withdrew $1.2 billion from the lucrative optional side of ICBC’s business, and also transferred $1.4 billion to offset deficits on the compulsory side providing basic coverage beginning in 2012.

“The reason we’re in a bind right now is that there’s no more money left in the optional piggy bank,” said retired civil servant Rick McCandless, who has written extensively on ICBC.

“The music has stopped. You can’t play the game anymore. Somebody has to make some hard decisions. And that somebody is government.”

At least we have affordable housing!

Read the full article here.

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stagnate
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stagnate

fake economy, everyone and their dog is looking for a quick buck from bubble real estate pricing and bogus car injury claims. come on ndp we need a return to the deadbeat nineties!

Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

This province is a sewer on so many levels.

Best place on earth? Not when it has the worst people.

Oracle
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Oracle
ICBC makes its stakeholders lots of money $$$! Friend of mine recently (few months ago) had his body shop accredited “ICBC accredited body shop”. He basically called it a licence to print money. Went and bough a Ferrari (kid you not) and upgraded his home ($2 million). They pay soooo much out to these body shops….pay to play? as you can’t easily get accreditation. But when you do, $$$$. Why does it cost $1200 to repair a bumper and repaint it??? Pay to play!!! He even makes money off the rental car thing when ICBC ‘gives’ a 4 day rental for repairs but the repair is done in 2 days. Other 2 day rental is pure profit. Also, to sell auto insurance, you need to buy a Autoplan franchise for $1.3 million…going rate now. Artificially restricted to keep licence value… Read more »
KickThemOut
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KickThemOut

Exactly…and what you said is only scratching the surface paint. ICBC problems are not actual real problems that can’t be solved. Only problem is there is so much $$$ in it for everyone that no one wants to change anything to fix it. And they say there is no corruption in Canada. Yes there isn’t because it’s all legal now, as long as you are an insider.

Yikes
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Yikes

Icbc needs to eliminate autoplan brokers…. renew online yourself and save millions…. I call bs on the autobody being lucrative….only the big guys like Craftsman making it

Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

Well this is a watershed moment.

Nobody has ever called bullshit on one of Oracle’s claims, they’re well respected and most would say ironclad.

Yikes
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Yikes

I’ve been in body shop biz for 30 yrs Oracle yanking on chains

Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

Yes, Oracle has yanked so many chains he looks like a plantation slave with epilepsy.

Oh darn…….. I just offended multiple groups again.

When will I learn to think and speak correctly like Master want’s me to?

Oracle
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Oracle

Conflict of interest there?

The Lawyers say they don’t make much from ICBC.

The Doctors say they don’t make much from ICBC.

The Physiotherapists say…

The Autoplay brokers say…

What do you say Yikes??

BubbleTea
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My car’s gotten hit by newly arrived Norwegians twice this year. The main-level suite I am living in got hit by another Norwegians claiming he stepped on the wrong paddle. These Norwegians are turning our street into a demolition derby.

KickThemOut
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KickThemOut

Private kitchens and food distributors in Richmond. Positive development of sharing economy or more cheating and scumming business? Notice that people interviewed in the article admits what they are doing is unlicensed and illegal.

http://www.richmond-news.com/news/trunk-trade-unlicensed-food-market-quietly-growing-in-richmond-1.21805131

bullwhip29
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just more heads i win, tails you lose BS whereby illegal business owner pockets a whack of tax free cash (at legit store’s expense) and reaps all the benefits until such time as one of their customers starts to feel a funny sensation in their gut and is rushed to the hospital where they inevitably receive the best in care on the taxpayers dime

KickThemOut
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KickThemOut

So Eby rails against Liberal abuse of ICBC honeypot and yet he’s not discontinuing the practice and the hikes are going ahead. Anyone still think NDP are different? That they just need more time? That they are for the regular working stiff?

If you honestly believe that, you need to give your brain a thorough wash and then go blow it out.

ICBC funding “problems” are fucking easy to solve by any competent small biz owners if there is any actual will power to fix it.

history
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history

i think Eby and Horgan have cut a deal with legal profession. ICBC mess is a kitty raid by lawyers. Lawyers say ‘hey, what are we gonna do now?, we need work”. Horgan gets a call from the forestry boys, and hustles lawyer army to fight TradeWar lumber duties. Lawyers are happy. Dippers fix ICBC by re-employing mortgage brokers as insolvency clerks.

Oracle
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Oracle

What ICBC needs is competition. We know that won’t happen.

What they going to do is cap payouts for all small injury claims. Basically policy holder loses while paying same premiums.

Body shop/ medical/health/lawyers laughing all the way to the bank.

Blame the general population. They are clueless. Maybe they deserve it ??

history
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history

are you suggesting ICBC toilets are too clean?

patriotz
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Oracle
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Oracle

Was waiting for you to post that. Yup. We must downplay immigration at all cost. /S

bullwhip29
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bullwhip29

your home, condo and rental insurance is going up too…

and many insurance companies are refusing to provide coverage on high risk vacation properties particularly if they are left vacant for much of the year and/or if it is a stand alone policy and client isn’t willing to move all their business under one roof. as for all the pseudo landlords claiming principal residence status out there who figure cutting corners on insurance is a prudent business strategy and failing to declare this or that regarding what is in effect a rental business are in for a world of hurt should “something” happen on said property and insurance co cites some hard to read clause in the fine print which gets them off the hook

CRA221
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CRA221

NDP to end Grizzly Hunt
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/plan-to-end-grizzly-trophy-hunting-in-bc-announced-1.4247060

I’m sure many Mainlanders will be very unhappy about this.

YVR
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YVR

Nice to see the NDP have time for more policy announcements. Still crickets on those housing policies. Didn’t they just get the Grizzly bear file? Don’t they need to study it? How come they don’t need to be back in the legislature to announce this one?

Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

This one doesn’t take much time to figure out, unlike the housing mess left behind by the trained monkey.

YVR
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YVR

They seemed to have it figured out prior to the election including tabling actual legislation. Did their dog eat that legislation on the 2% foreign speculators tax?

Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

Prior to the election they didn’t know who would head the ministry as they had to see who won their ridings.

The new minister does need time to review everything on the table.

Patience, little one. Patience.

Shut It Down Already
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Shut It Down Already

Yes, they’re diligently reading it all…….

Haha!

Whistler or Bust?
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Whistler or Bust?

Yep – same old NDP. They are so busy with their heads in the trough to do any real work. Hopefully a new Gov’t within a year before this children can do any real damage.

Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

Yep – same old NDP ….tell you whut…

Are you in your 80’s?

Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

Oracle
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Oracle

Well the NDP better get busy on housing then. Their silence is pissing off a lot of their supporters.

Dave
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This is quite possibly the dumbest wildlife management policy in the last 100 years. Not keeping the hide of a dead animal is wasting a resource. Humans have been doing that for 100,000 years. It’s contrary to native and hunting cultures. It’s offensive and it’s purely political. Wildlife management should be done using science, not politics.

Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

I believe they get their gall bladders from poached black bears, not grizzlies.

history
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history

it took a few days to connect the dots, but the end of the BC griz hunt is connected to the pop in the USA hunting and fishing retail bubble.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-15/dicks-ceo-retail-industry-panic-mode

The premise is that there are hundreds of bubbles, growing, popping, all the time. One bubble that snuck by most people because it wasnt diseminated in the MSM, was the Van Isle RE marijuana bubble, 2012. But Harper knew very well, and made a visit to Van Isle back then to mention this cryptically.

Now we see the recreational hunting – fishing bubble pop.

history
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history

There is also a connection to the BC wildfires. The goo banned recreational ATVs, correct? This info tracks back through the tourism industry, and next thing you know, no hunters hunting Griz. So you’re a smart little MSM clown and snivel servant, what do you do? Cancel the hunt, and say its for moral reasons. This shit happens all the time. Classic domino modelling effect popping the Recreational Sport Fishing and Hunting bubble.

Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

Eminem Lists Suburban Michigan Estate for 42% of What He Paid 14 Years Ago

https://www.yahoo.com/music/eminem-lists-suburban-michigan-estate-42-paid-14-181108739.html

The gated and largely wooded 5.69-acre spread, about 30 miles due north of downtown Detroit near the end of a long cul-de-sac where it backs up to the Stony Creek Metropark Golf Course, is anchored by a sprawling stone-faced mansion of no discernible architectural vernacular that measures in, per online marketing materials, at around 17,500-square-feet with five en suite bedrooms and a total of seven full and three half bathrooms.

YVR
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YVR

$1.9 million US for 17,500 square feet house plus guest house on 5.69 acres.

Why would anyone buy that. For the same price you could get you a prime 1970s Fraser Street area Van special on a 33′ lot with a legal suite.

tom
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tom

As much as we don’t like it there’s a market for it, cuz of the low interest rates still. Until fewer people can afford it the prices will continue to go up.

Oracle
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Oracle

Low interest rates?? LMAO

Dude, we beyond that here. Its Foreign $$$$$$$$.

Shut It Down Already
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Shut It Down Already

$1.9 million US for 17,500 square feet house plus guest house on 5.69 acres IN DETROIT.

I wonder what the price/rent and price/income ratios are?

Whistler or Bust?
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Whistler or Bust?

Yet another example of how F#CKED Vancouver RE is.

best place on earth
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best place on earth

then why are people not moving there in drove?

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http://www.clivestevepaul.com

history
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history
. It’s a “you can’t handle the truth” economy Greedometer update Aug 14/2017 https://www.greedometer.com/release-dudley-3/ ‘Dudley was asked he if saw any asset bubbles. He commented “I think there are areas where you could sort of say, boy, asset prices might be somewhat overvalued in certain areas. But this is totally different than — not 2007. The housing market was up dramatically. It’s a hugely big market in terms of dollar value.” OK, {Greedometer dude} cannot let that stand –and {has} no idea why the A.P. reporter did. ‘Housing bubble: in 2006-2007, mean U.S. real house prices had blown out to be the largest divergence above mean U.S. real income ever. Well, hang on. That property bubble is now 2nd place. 2015-2017 sees the new largest spread ever between house prices and income. Dudley -as NY Fed Prez- must know this.… Read more »
Ulsterman
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I just returned from two weeks in Belfast, Northern Ireland. My takeaway was that almost everything there was so much cheaper than here. The restaurants were always packed in Belfast because i’m assuming people have plenty of disposable money. Wages are about the same. Houses about 70% less, good cell plans from C$10/month, TV/Internet packages far less, gas is more (C$1.80/litre) but everyone drives smaller cars and they’re frequently 2-3 times as efficient as our big trucks and SUV’s, electricity more expensive, eating out/drinking out much cheaper, food at supermarkets is half the price – they have the big German co.’s like Aldi and Lidl offering their own brands at shockingly cheap prices. Insurance is bought online through a site like gocompare.com. Dozens of competing quotes – the entire process done in minutes. My sister and her hubby are early… Read more »
Dave
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Get used to it because consumers are getting more and more squeezed in Canada and especially BC. Gas taxes are next then property taxes, income taxes, corporate taxes, wine, beer, and on and on.

Shut It Down Already
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Shut It Down Already

That’s what you voted for, Dave.

Dave
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I didn’t vote NDP, Green or Liberal. I voted for the None of the Above Party.

We would be getting squeezed no matter who won. I have been posting about my expectation of a ‘squeeze’ for about a year now on here.

Shut It Down Already
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Shut It Down Already

You said you favoured the “burn it down” option. Well, you got it.

Dave
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I did get what I want, which was to not endorse any of these clowns. We would be getting squeezed no matter who won. The Liberals less so for sure, but a squeeze none the less. People are maxed out in debt and rates are going to creep up all the while government increases taxes and our purchasing power (the dollar) degrades. Look at the price of a bottle of wine or a case of beer for example in BC compared to Washington or California. Now imagine it getting worse. Look at where commercial lease rates have been going and municipal taxes. So many small businesses are set to shut down in Vancouver. They are going to have to pass on that huge amount of inflation to the consumer in order to get by. And most won’t be able to… Read more »
KickThemOut
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KickThemOut

Almost all hair salons on Cambie between Broadway and King Edward are charging $50 for men’s haircut to start. Add in some shampoo & wash and such, tips + taxes, easily $100 and they are all thriving!

Virtually all cool hip “better than Starbucks” coffee places are charging $7 to $9 dollars for fancy locally sourced, made in store muffins.

Dave
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Ha, I guess my point has already been realized then. I pay $20 for my haircut at a barber in Burnaby and I don’t buy muffins so I don’t relate to their price. I look at some businesses and I know what they pay for their lease, taxes and utilities. When I sit and watch how many customers, they get, it doesn’t make a lot of sense to me and I think a lot of small businesses are struggling. I think you’ll see more and more boomers retire from their business and have nobody to sell it to because in a World with Amazon, it doesn’t make a lot of sense. I was going to say we’re headed for Tokyo prices, except with the Vancouver rain and rude people. Before spouting off, I looked up the numbers for goods and… Read more »
KickThemOut
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KickThemOut

Tokyo are pretty damn cheap for a lot of stuff….much more so than here especially after you consider that service level, attitude & professionalism is way way way about Vancouver’s. For most part, Vancouver’s service level is absolutely amateurish and downright rude on par with HK. The only reason you paid tips is to avoid being embarrassed and harassed by the service people.

Owen
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Owen

I hope that’s not true. If someone told me a muffin cost $9, I might involuntarily slap them in the face.

Abdul Lahazi
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Abdul Lahazi

Most markets in BC and Canada in general are rigged and manipulated. Everything from electricity to dairy and insurance and wireless plans are controlled by the gov’t or various marketing boards. The worst for manipulation, obviously, is real estate.

KickThemOut
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KickThemOut

Cactus Club is packed every day in Vancouver…..

history
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history

which says what to us?

There’s a series of big pool parties at the top of a skyscrapper in HK this summer. You know anyone?
http://www.w-hongkong.com/2017poolparty

KickThemOut
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KickThemOut

That Ulsterman’s conclusions are basically wrong….you don’t need low housing prices for what’s he saw in Belfast. Vancouver is already that and much more.

history
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history

the two of you have made me think a little outside the box today, as i enjoy my vacation. Help wanted signs pop up like daisies…

Is there a connection between late sixties seventies Cultural Revolution in China, and the Irish conflict? A constrained population, a missed generation, that explosively Spends forth, 30-40-50 years later? Is bubble response the Irish tax haven, and other special considerations in response to historical imbalance?

What does HK get or Vancouver get when Wicked Witch heloc starts to melt?

not much or nothin… it’s been good for too long for the same group(s)

Bear Vancouverite
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Bear Vancouverite
Ulsterman, I’m one of the members here who respect your posts and appreciate this update, but I should mention that you’ve posted pretty much the exact same post in the past (perhaps multiple times) after coming back from Ireland. The fact is that while it’s true that Vancouver is vastly overpriced, you can’t compare to Belfast. Ireland already had it’s bubble pop, and it wasn’t propped up at all by the current wave of foreign investors and speculators. I consider the period from 2012-2017 RE bubble 2.0 driven by yet even lower rates and foreign investment. The conditions that created the runup after 2014 largely remain unchanged (only 1 rate drop reversal has occurred so far). I caution anyone reading this type of experience from assuming Vancouver has to follow the same trajectory, because what Ulsterman describes is basically exactly… Read more »
Ulsterman
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Bear V: I find i’m motivated to post after escaping for a while from the echo chamber of Vancouver real estate – that’s very true, and you are correct to point out that i suffer from Groundhog Day syndrome each time i return. However i think you’ve misinterpreted the nature of my post. I mentioned real estate being cheaper only as part of a much larger and i hope, on-topic theme – things (car insurance as per the title) being very expensive here compared to other places. I want to know why everything is so much cheaper in a country (UK) that traditionally was MORE expensive than Canada when i first moved here 18 years ago. I have long given up ever expecting there to be a correction/crash of any significance. Prices have gone up so much in the past… Read more »
Yikes
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Yikes

Oracle gets paid to inflict fear into VCI readers…nothing more than fake news. He a lonely puppet, I feel your pain

Shut It Down Already
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Shut It Down Already

No, but he pretends to be a minority because he thinks that makes it acceptable for him to be a xenophobic moron. He’s mistaken.

Oracle
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Oracle

Playing the race card are we?

Good Grief to the rest of the posts below.

Shut It Down Already
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Shut It Down Already

You’ve been caught before, remember?

Funkeymonkey
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Funkeymonkey

I’ve said it before I am sure he gets paid.

Bear Vancouverite
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Bear Vancouverite

The idea that anyone would hire Oracle to do anything, even packing groceries at a discount store, is pretty far fetched.

Oh NO
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Oh NO

67 cent hamburgers at Mc dicks tomorrow to celebrate 50 yrs…… Oracle and his home family will be standing in line

Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

Fuck me, it’ll be like the “Great Road Salt Giveaway” 2.0

patriotz
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” I am sure he gets paid”

Nobody cares enough about the readers of this forum to pay anyone to post on it. Don’t flatter yourself.

Oracle
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Oracle

No, confuse them even more. Just say i get paid to persuade the 15 people who visit this site. LOL

Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

Are you counting space and his sock puppet as 1 people or 2?

Sockpuppet lives matter!

southseacompany
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southseacompany

“How Canada’s housing boom is aggravating income inequality”, Canadian Business

http://www.canadianbusiness.com/economy/how-canadas-housing-boom-is-aggravating-income-inequality/

“Canada’s political class has doubled down on preserving middle-class house prices at any cost, but it’s stranding a generation in the process”

“Trudeau and his ministers know the urban middle- and upper-middle-class Canadians that form the core of their political constituency are sensitive about housing. At a semi-private speech in Montreal this spring, Finance Minister Bill Morneau said that as a member of Parliament and a Cabinet minister, he felt Canadians were “counting on you to ensure their home keeps its value.””

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Abdul Lahazi
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Abdul Lahazi

Apparently Amazon has issued a recall on some eclipse glasses too:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/amazon-recalls-potentially-hazardous-solar-eclipse-glasses/

my guess is these are all cheapo Chineze fakes.

KickThemOut
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KickThemOut

Buy Canadian! Canadian manufacturers never have recalls for quality problems.

Abdul Lahazi
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Abdul Lahazi

This is more than just a “quality problem”.
The Chineeze would never purposely make a cheap knockoff product that would injure or kill people would they?

Shut It Down Already
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Shut It Down Already

Are you suggesting Canadians wouldn’t?

KickThemOut
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KickThemOut

Oracle: “Do you search the internet for stuff like this? You are simply a racist. “

kabloona
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kabloona

“Average sales price of Canadian home declines compared to previous year for 1st time since 2013”

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/crea-home-sales-july-1.4247625

BubbleTea
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BubbleTea

Bearish Investor on China Says the Yuan Could Sink 70% Over Next 12 Months
https://www.bloomberg.com//news/articles/2017-08-14/hedge-fund-betting-on-70-yuan-crash-digs-in-as-currency-rallies
Imagine what this could mean for Vancouver real estates!

KickThemOut
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KickThemOut

Imagine the club US & Trump can wield with just a 25% drop in the Yuan vs USD. Add in currency manipulator to the trade sanctions Trump already started. We might get the flash & spark between the two Koreas yet.

Dave
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The Chinese will back down and deal with North Korea if Congress let’s Trump negotiate the way he is going, which is the right way. I don’t expect we’ll get to the point of trade sanctions or currency manipulation for that reason.

KickThemOut
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KickThemOut
With what? NK don’t listen to China and you think China is going to send its army in NK to do a regime change? An army where not every soldier has a gun? An army whose equipment are synonymous with cheap products that break down at first opportunity? An army where its elite units are armed with crossbows? An army composed of only sons who are more important to the family to carry on the family name? An army of spoiled brats who can’t even stand for 2 hours outside without rioting? Seriously? You think China is going to send the army in and show the world just how bad it is? As I said, South Korea can basically roll-up NK in a week, or less with help from Japan navy / marines & elite forces, and US air cover… Read more »
Dave
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The second the Chinese close the border and we put a naval embargo on North Korea is the second the regime falls. If the Chinese cut them off, then they’ll make a deal to get rid of their weapons.

patriotz
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The problem is the Chinese don’t want the regime to fall. You can also kiss any Chinese co-operation goodbye if the Americans (no “we”, nobody else will participate, least of all the South Koreans), attempt a naval blockade.

Dave
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Exactly, hence why a deal with all parties can be made. North Korea and China would be more than happy if the US did another 8 years of nothing. Trump rightly sees that as stupid and he’ll punish China if they don’t crack the whip, which they eventually will for the reason you state, but more so because of trade. The imbalance with the US is so large that the US has a credible threat of economic sanctions.

By the time the US would impose a blockade, we’re already well into a trade war.

But again, none of that will happen because behind the scenes, China will take care of the problem.

Bear Vancouverite
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Bear Vancouverite

BubbleTea, what do you think this would mean for Vancouver RE exactly? We already know that Mainland investors want to get their money out of China and invest in our properties for fear of a drop in the Yuan. Won’t the risk of this 70% drop just drive them even more desparately to buy our properties?

BubbleTea
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BubbleTea

The money had left China already and China just build a wall against capital flight. For the few that could get the money out, lets see how much they can buy with a worthless yuan.

KickThemOut
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KickThemOut

Now we know why China bought the half complete Russian carrier hulk and parading it around so proudly…it can finally copy US movies and show a navy fleet halfway around the world.

The latest movie sensation sweep in China that mainlanders “employees” can’t stop yapping and mimicking about. Which movie do you think it copies most from? Commando? Hart’s War? Delta Force? Rambo?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkqGiPB2D8M

Dave
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Tropic Thunder.

Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

The chinese were the first to say “never go full retard”.

Dave
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Translates to “never go mongloid”.

KickThemOut
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KickThemOut

Tear of the Sun….probably almost exact plot line….doctor needs rescue in Africa from rebels / civil war.

KickThemOut
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KickThemOut

Right up the alley of most RE bears.

Far-right extremist groups on the rise in Canada, expert says

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/far-right-extremist-groups-on-the-rise-in-canada-expert-says-1.3546672

Dave
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CTV is fake news.

Shut It Down Already
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Shut It Down Already

Such a lazy argument. I wonder where you got it from?

Dave
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Because CTV are dirtbags and make fake news. Hence CTV fake news.

It’s not lazy, it’s the truth. Watch their news yourself and figure that out. I didn’t click that link because they don’t have any credibility to me. Fake news. Trust me on this.

Shut It Down Already
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Shut It Down Already

I somehow imagine there’s no source on that topic you would accept. If I’m wrong about that, let me know.

Dave
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CTV runs a story like that because they know the public is all hyped up because of the crazy stuff in the US. Fear sells. As an example, see Garth Turner. It’s classic media 101. Next week, it will be something else. Sorry, not buying into it. Fake news.

I don’t know why people watch this stuff. A really good life hack is to go on a media diet. Just turn it all off for a few months. You won’t miss a thing of importance.

Shut It Down Already
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Shut It Down Already

So pick a source.

Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

As repulsive as CNN is, if I don’t check in on them from time to time I won’t know what the enemy is up to.

I certainly don’t watch them to get any facts.

history
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history

so if im posting from McDuck wifi, a Bell Media connection, and comment negatively about an opinion in a CTV piece, owned by Bell Media company,…. you’re pretty creative, what should happen next?

Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

These groups aren’t on the rise, they’ve always been there. They’re just being more vocal.

They’re also a ridiculously tiny fringe group but the media is playing it up like they’re about to take over the country, even invoking the word “terrorists”.

Fucking CTV is useless, they’ve always been fear-mongers.

history
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history

we should probably look at Warren Kinsella new book, he’s as big a hater as they come.

history
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history

warren’s website
http://warrenkinsella.com/2017/07/so-canada-eh/

maybe someone can invite him to post here? spin some stories. He’s real good at it. His power years was before the Internet. Sowing division never really went out of style. Divide and Conquer is an important tool in The MSM and Spook Sniveller toolbox. We got a heavy dose of it the last few days.

Hey Warren, im debt free.. fck you!

KickThemOut
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KickThemOut

Well you are the expert on this as you probably head a few of them. 🙂

Hyper-mega-Bull
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Hyper-mega-Bull

guys, when’s the crash going to happen? ( or are we crashing right now?)

Hyper-mega-Bull
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Hyper-mega-Bull

i wonder how many kids will go blind looking at the eclipse through chinese made counterfeit glasses.

Oracle
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Oracle

Garth thinks house prices are falling like crazy in Vancouver. Read his latest post.

LMAO.

How can someone propagate lies like that?

Shut It Down Already
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Shut It Down Already

Maybe he checks the numbers on zolo.ca?

Confucius
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Confucius

“How can someone propagate lies like that?”

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha. You’re the best troll ever. Classic.

Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

I read it, didn’t see any such claim made.

This part was bizarre though:

“That twenty-four grand is considered income in Devon’s hands, and lumped on top of his regular, working-dude wages. If he earns the average (about $80,000) his marginal tax rate is 31.5%”

The average person in Toronto makes $80,000?

Shut It Down Already
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Shut It Down Already

He likely knows his age, and possibly other information that he chose not to publish (profession?) which means Devon not simply an “average” earner.

Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

Detached inventory on the west side is piling up fast.

Today, 18 listed, 1 sold. This is becoming typical activity.

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http://www.clivestevepaul.com

Screwed
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Screwed

Can’t believe my eyes

Dave
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Ya, sub 100 is a good bearish number.

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interesting hate speech from Urban Dictionary ‘Langford’, Premier Horgan’s riding. To be fair, many of these definitions are written during the high velocity mortgage refi years, But you can see the dislike towards the working classes, presumably written by todays Heloc classes, i dunno. There are no soup kitchens or homeless shelters in Langford, now called Westshore. The shithole has become Victoria. Just to point out how things can change very quickly.

File under Real’tard, ‘location, location, location’

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Langford

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