Friday Free-for-all! November 3rd 2017

It’s Friday! Are you feeling free?

It time for our regular end of the week news round up and open topic discussion thread for the weekend.

So what are you seeing out there? Post your news links, thoughts and anecdotes in the comments section of and have a superb weekend!

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BubbleTea
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BubbleTea

Where is “I am Linda”? This time, we need her to confront Horgan and the NDP about housing.

southseacompany
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southseacompany

Peoples are so predictable;

“Toronto, Vancouver see home-sales rush ahead of new stress-test rules”, Globe & Mail

https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/real-estate/toronto/toronto-home-sales-see-sharp-rebound-after-short-slump/article36806253/?ref=http://www.theglobeandmail.com&

“Home sales climbed in October in both Toronto and Vancouver as buyers moved to lock in purchases in Canada’s most expensive cities before new mortgage stress-testing rules take effect in January.”

KickThemOut
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KickThemOut
Drop
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Drop

They like the skilled Chinese tech workers treudau is going to flood the city with. Wonder if they gays will play the victim card when they are priced out by 4 Chinese programmers sharing a one bedroom. You know the same way those grandma are bitching about non Chinese moving into China Town.

KickThemOut
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KickThemOut

Oh look, locust not contend with messing with North America, they are messing with Australia too. Australian border services nap the biggest drug busts in its history.

https://globalnews.ca/news/3841691/quebec-woman-sentenced-to-7-5-years-for-role-in-australian-cocaine-smuggling/

Abdul Lahazi
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Abdul Lahazi

You already posted this same link on the last thread. Nice try Loser but you will never measure up.

Combat roach
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Combat roach

Ehhh, spaceshit and his apprehension of sarcasm. Either they build monster mansions, artificial islands, produce drugs, try to be fashionable, buy pianos, collect salt, cheat, falsify or use sarcasm, it must be always exaggerated, overdone and in poor taste. There is no hope to change that.

best place on earth
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best place on earth

here is a link about non-locust – just to balance it out

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-women-australia-cocaine-sentence-1.4385564
“A Quebec woman who pleaded guilty to smuggling more than 30 kilograms of cocaine into Australia last year was sentenced to 7½ years in prison on Friday.”

Combat roach
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Combat roach

Is this some online contest between you and space? Like “who is the dumbest” or some weird back-home version of the master-mind game?

history
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history

How many houses does Sotheby list in vancouver?

http://slopeofhope.com/2017/11/big-reversal-in-sothebys.html#comments

bullwhip29
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bullwhip29

Richmond farmer opens B&B to subsidize blueberry losses
http://www.richmond-news.com/news/weekly-feature/richmond-farmer-opens-b-b-to-subsidize-blueberry-losses-1.23083762

>>> for your amusement… 😉

bullwhip29
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bullwhip29
Just me
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Just me

From the article:

“Farm owner Jian He told the Richmond News that the three rooms, all of which have farm views, in his 12-bedroom house have been granted permits by the city. But he would like to rent out almost all of the rooms.”

Was that land reserved to run hotel businesses?

Abdul Lahazi
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Abdul Lahazi

and because a blueberry farmer needs a 12 bedroom house why …

history
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history

Why live in a room at this guys house, paying off his RE gambling habit, when you can live in a van for free?

Protest with your feet on the gas (or electric) peddle.. dont waste your time with politics

Combat roach
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Combat roach

Later on, barns could get converted to Birth Hospitals (possibly partially subsidized by the local taxpayer) with full maternity services exclusive only to Mandarin-speaking pregnant clientele with “fully-licensed” staff on premises and helicopters for emergencies and late bookings. For family members, friends and chaperones accompanying women in labor, besides hotel (B&B) also provided should be a casino and small luxury shopping mall (including car dealership) hence they can have less stressful and more productive experience while waiting for delivery. Of course, all of that comes with the blessing of the city council and local politicians because at the end it all helps the local economy and nicely welcomes future citizens. Guests could be also offered to collect blueberries for free if there are still any of them left. However, those farms are just perfect for emerging businesses.

Lost...but not leased
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Lost...but not leased

Maybe start a rumour that Chinese women who appear pregnant may actually be smuggling in bulk shipments of Fentanyl….

Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

Birth & Breakfast places have been popping up all over Richmond for a long time, but using farms is the latest unique locust idea to transform our country into a playground for mainland crooks.

How about B&B changing to B&B&B?

Birth, breakfast and blueberries. Only in Richmond, you say?

Pity.

Lost...but not leased
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Lost...but not leased
The apparent scoop is this guy was renting out every room and got caught, so he tried the legal route via a City permit. Now thathe has a permit..how is one gonna prove that he isn’t back to renting the rest of the house? Regardless, the whole story stinks. The guy was some sort of small businessman, so he retires and buys a huge house for $4 million and farm? Who retires and buys a large home…don’t people want to downsize to say at minimum a smaller house if not a condo? If he can afford a $4 million house why worry about farm revenue (and Farm Status).In my experience only old school Chinese born here are into farming. He is giving the impression that he needs blueberry revenue or he will lose his house…so desperate for B & B… Read more »
KickThemOut
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KickThemOut
So I was at the info session for the Marpole temporary housing project to support it as it is such an important project for most needy of people in this city who are in real danger of being frozen to death. Surprise, surprise, 95% of the people attending are all either yellow or brown skins, and hoping home made sign for protest. During Q&A, the amount of vitriol directed at this project is simply astounding. Off course, there is the requisite lip service about wanting to help the poor & homeless but in the end it’s all about why is the city putting homeless here?! OMG, the crocodile tears about safety concerns and needles, and what kickback Onni is getting, or how much the non-profit housing society is set to make. OMG….you can see that this is about one thing… Read more »
Oracle
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Oracle

Refrain from using the terms ” yellow or brown skins”.

Ask yourself what background are the politicians who are making the laws and policies for everything to occur. Then direct your anger at them. Surely you’re not that dumb not to see this.

Lost...but not leased
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Lost...but not leased

I had mentioned a while back that COV Council had created a bylaw allowing them to place these ” temporary”shelters literally anywhere…..these are exempt from zoning bylaws. Ironically, it takes years for condos to receive permits ?

IMHO, people deserve to have input re: such changes. These Vision @ssholes should volunteer their neighbourhoods,…
I’ve had experience with this type of ambush housing…what often happens is the real dregs and scum start to hang around, and it literally took a swat team to evict them..good riddance.

PS: Don’t comment if you haven’t had the experience of how good intentions can go bad fast.

KickThemOut
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KickThemOut

People are at risk of dying from this early winter and here you are in your little cocoon, totally uncaring about the least fortunate members of our society. How dare you call yourself a Canadian?! In Canada we help people when they are down, not kick them for the hell of it.

You are a disgusting, sorry excuse for a human being. I hope you experience some of what these poor people experiences everyday and see how you like it.

Lost...but not leased
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Lost...but not leased
A developer bought a number of houses in our area, and all the owners and tenants moved out. Then we noticed people living in these vacant homes. Upon inquiry, we found out that there was some program whereby recovering drug addicts were allowed to literally squat in the homes. Turned into a gong show, as all sorts of riff raff started hanging around. The area started to look like worst part of Surrey. One of the f*ckers sicked 2 pit bulls on me, just missed getting bit…New faces came and went..The constant traffic made it clear the drugs were being dealt. All this was going on near a public school. I called up the developer…and I think he freaked out aka LIABILITY. Finally the NEIGHBOURHOOD had enough of this gong show, and about 20 City Bylaw officers and police monitored… Read more »
patriotz
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” Vision and NDP are great at criticizing, but useless on solutions, other than heavy handed ones that smack of class warfare. ”

Isn’t rich people buying houses and leaving them empty class warfare? If the rich are waging class warfare on everyone else, why shouldn’t the victims fight back?

KickThemOut
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KickThemOut

Which is why bears fully support squatters in locust mansions, occupied or not, doing whatever they like until locust sells to bears. Then the squatters can move into shelters in areas dominated by locusts and brown skins so they can know the damage they done to society with their housing obession and repay their debt to society.

Lost...but not leased
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Lost...but not leased
People of all classes exist at the discretion of the given Gov’t. Our Gov’ts have effectively sold us out to a class , calibre , and volume of wealthy foreigners that could not have acquired so much wealth to the same degree if established within Canada. Thus we locals are, at minimum 2nd class to start. The class warfare exists because Gov’t , by default and/or design have either allowed /encouraged or facilitated it. Or, more succinctly…they let the offshore wealthy in, likely fully aware of the costs and consequences to the locals beyond the benefits…ie they knew full well these immigrants and their myriad designations will not integrate, they will conquer and colonize, have no respect for our laws, cultures and customs , continually displace the rest of us, and import their numerous corrupt practices. The party of the… Read more »
KickThemOut
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KickThemOut

You are using squatters as a comparison? We are talking about city build housing, run by professional non-profit society with experience who will screen tenants with 24hr staff, support, and services. All tenants will sign an agreement too. This is about helping people will freeze to death. Notice all bears are fully supportive of this kind of initiative, want city to expand this program, even if it is next to them. They aren’t scared of some stupid superstition fear of ghost. For you to oppose this on some unproven fears over lives of most needy shows plenty of your true colors.

Lost...but not leased
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Lost...but not leased

OMG…..
What are VISIONS criteria on who gets to live there…WHO or what oversees it…obviously VISION has no intent on giving the public any input till after the fact.

You don’t have a monopoly on virtue, but stupidity and kneejerk comments are another matter. Sounds like you haven’t experienced anything close to what our neighbourhood did…so your comments ring hollow.

Bestplaceonearth
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Bestplaceonearth

And what fucking color are you racist pig? Where do you or your parents live? Let ambush a shelter near your house and see how you feel. You must be enjoying needles and human feces very much.

KickThemOut
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KickThemOut

Your true color shows. You would rather have people freeze to death rather than extending them a helping hand. You should go see the work that is being done and how appreciate the people are who now finally has a place to call home. There will be 24hr services and staff at site, including room cleaning, nutrition, employment guidance, etc. Real Canadians are supporting this, including a woman in wheelchair who came all the way from Surrey to tell about social housing experience in her area.

Btw, we are not discriminating all Chinese and Indian people in the world, just the ones from China and India, 2 biggest shit holes in the world as bears on this blog states. Also, Chinese is not a race remember?

bestplaceonearth
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bestplaceonearth

then i ask you again, why not make a suggestion to have one next to where you live, or next to where your parents live.

KickThemOut
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KickThemOut

Every bear fully supports having this project anywhere there is under used land, even if it is in their landlords backyard. What are you doing to help the homeless and most needy?

KickThemOut
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KickThemOut

There are dozens of temporary housing projects around GVRD and community of real Canadians have welcome them and integrated them into the community.

Not a single bear on this blog would oppose this kind of project in their neighborhood or next door.

Just me
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Just me
Based on figures from Zolo’s, the past couple of weeks have registered a noticeable pick up in both volumes and prices of transactions involving SFHs in Vancouver. Here are some possible explanations: (1) there has been a relaxation of capital controls in China, or Chinese mainlanders have figured out new ways to get around capital controls (a related question is what happens now that the Chinese Communist Party Congress and the coronation of Xi Jinping are done: what is the future of capital controls….). (2) There is a rush to beat the OSFI deadlines for increased regulation of the mortgage margins. Both locals and mainlanders are leveraging as much as possible while they can? (3) Both local and foreign “investors” are suddenly realizing that the NDP is no threat to the housing market. Many who were on the sidelines have… Read more »
Lost...but not leased
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Lost...but not leased

It should be clear by now that there is ZERO intent to stem the tide of foreign money buying up BC and increasingly adding to the colony status.

Any taxes etc. have been designed to FAIL, combined with the RELENTLESS effort by these locusts to either find loopholes or ignore them outright

Shut It Down Already
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Shut It Down Already

Another racist steps forward!

Abdul Lahazi
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Abdul Lahazi

Yes don’t debate just play the “race card”. It’s just that easy.

Just me
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Just me

You keep confusing race with behaviour.
Criticizing people because of what they do is legit.

Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

Criticizing a toxic and diseased culture like communist china or radical islam is necessary.

Keeping them out is the next step once we deal with the politically correct trash among us.

ostritch
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ostritch

Hey morons. It’s a global problem this spread of hot money. You guys are acting like dumb monkies in a cage clubbing each other over the head while the zoo burns.

Shut It Down Already
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Shut It Down Already

The “foreign buyers” part of 2 and 3 contradict your previous theories about there being a rush after the New Year when capital limits reset. Maybe it’s mostly locals, eh?

Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

“or Chinese mainlanders have figured out new ways to get around capital controls ”

I wonder why an imaginary currency like Bitcoin is going parabolic?

Shut It Down Already
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Shut It Down Already

Except it’s spectacularly difficult to turn Bitcoin back into cash right now. Other than that you’re as insightful as ever.

Just me
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Just me

Chinese mainlanders dabble in the difficult, barely legal, inappropriate and plain risky. That is a way of life. Move money, lose some in the process, park it in Vancouver real estate and wait till the value grows so you can leverage and buy more.

That property is never going to see the market again. It is called hoarding and is also part of the mindset.

KickThemOut
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KickThemOut

Add technology to the long list of items you are totally clueless about.

patriotz
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Bitcoin in itself doesn’t get money out of anywhere. It’s just a token for a transaction. Someone has to be willing to sell it for currency A and then someone has to be willing to buy it for currency B to convert A to B. That’s not inherently different from an ordinary currency exchange.

Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

“That’s not inherently different from an ordinary currency exchange.”

Except for being able to bypass banks and government oversight, but other than that it’s not much different.

Just me
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Just me

I completely agree with the view that the sudden run-up in Bitcoin values is intimately related to the need of transferring money out of Mainland China.
It is well known that most active exchanges are in fact in Mainland China.
My question is whether Xi Jinping and co. are willingly leaving this loophole open for people, or whether they will crack down on it. If they do, expect some volatility in bitcoin.
I am rather confident that significant amounts of bitcoin are recycled and laundered in the Vancouver RE market. it is just a matter of time for mainstream press to start documenting the new scams.

Lost...but not leased
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Lost...but not leased

Good point…
Many are starting to put Bitcoin under much needed scrutiny.

Some brag about the gains they made, and the degree of liquidity and conversion to other currency blah blah blah.
Its no different than other FIAT currency….what is its backing…a hope and many prayers?!?

I hadn’t thought about the Chinese…silly me…but it’s almost a sure bet they are in deep with BitCoin and on a large scale …..as what areas aren’t they full – on infiltrating ?

Oracle
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Oracle

Future of Vancouver?

Even a $3 million Kits detached seems great! But expect mainlanders to be majority in area.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-01/sprawling-luxury-home-on-hong-kong-s-peak-sells-for-149-million

Shut It Down Already
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Shut It Down Already

What finally made you decide to stop pretending to be from India?

Oracle
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Oracle

7 upvotes?

Whatever you say Einsteins.

Kim
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Kim

Somebody posted this link to a Chinese Aibnb type site -not entirely sure as don’t know the language, but it does have complete addresses etc. I wonder if the City of Vancouver is going after these places too? Is there a place to report illegal rentals in Vancouver?
http://www.jtlg.ca/

KickThemOut
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KickThemOut

Yes there is but I guess you are too lazy to do a simple Google search. Bears always want other people to do their work for them. No wonder they are such big losers right now and blame everyone but themselves.

Abdul Lahazi
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Abdul Lahazi

You crack me up. Accusing others of doing what you do the most of. You Loser who will ask a question but can’t be bothered to actually Google the info himself; or just reads the headline and draws a conclusion when the article actually says the opposite … Look in your own mirror you LOSER.

Shut It Down Already
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Shut It Down Already

The article says the opposite because he’s being sarcastic, dumbass.

Abdul Lahazi
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Abdul Lahazi

Apparently the BC Parliament building is for sales to the Chinese…

http://www.jtlg.ca/viewproperty.php?pid=27&cid=11

Lost...but not leased
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Lost...but not leased

I thought they already bought it…?!?

Just me
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Just me

Douglas Todd: Immigration cuts not seen as racist by most, global survey shows.

http://vancouversun.com/opinion/columnists/douglas-todd-most-dont-consider-immigration-cuts-to-be-racist-global-survey-finds

Few topics can combine to ignite such anger, contempt and division.

It was not always this way. The belief that it is racist to want to reduce immigration has only been a significant viewpoint since the 1960s for some in the West. It’s still not a common belief among people in Asia.

patriotz
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Maybe the belief is significant today because in the past people simply didn’t have a problem with racist policies. For example, the ban on Chinese immigration to Canada in the early part of the 20th century, while it remained wide open for everyone else, was objectively racist but popular.

Just me
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Just me

While limit yourself to the past? I would start by looking at today’s racial attitudes in the biggest country in Asia.

patriotz
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No need to start now, I’ve made a number of postings about Chinese racial attitudes. But I think Canada should use a higher standard of comparison than that.

Back to immigration, I don’t see anything wrong with advocating lower levels, I’ve said parents and grandparents should be eliminated from family class.

Lost...but not Leased
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Lost...but not Leased

IMHO, they will never eliminate parents, grandparents etc from family class. This was asshole Pierre Trudeau’s hidden agenda via increased immigration and multiculturalism.

He first promoted French in majority English Canada as the first wedge…then brought in Non Caucasians, who were also able to sponsor family members.

The real agenda was to develop a pool of ignorant voters who would ally themselves with their benefactor.

Combat roach
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Combat roach

If the same ban could have happens this time it would be not only popular but critically practical in saving Canada as a independent and sovereign country.

YVR
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YVR

“For example, the ban on Chinese immigration to Canada in the early part of the 20th century, while it remained wide open for everyone else”

I guess the difference back then was lots of people wanted to come here. We could be choosy and bring in people who wanted to be productive. The good old days.

Lost...but not leased
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Lost...but not leased
Might be a good idea to do some research of WHY things happened within context of certain times in history. Sick of the whining of Non Caucasians about how their ancestors were discriminated against…waaah wahh wahhhhh.(.as whose ancestors haven’t been discriminated at one time in history ?) The robber barons brought in Chinese as cheap labour for such projects as the trans- Canada railway……this upset Canadian citizens whose jobs and wages were being seriously undercut. The Chinese who did come here to North America did so by choice…they decided that their lot in life was much better HERE than in China …….REGARDLESS OF THE POLITICAL CLIMATE……racist or not…..given what European immigrants had FIRST set in motion….end of discussion. Same with that F*cking tiresome…”Komagata Maru”….the ship was on the Gov’t radar screen because it had NOT followed procedures and protocol, it… Read more »
Oracle
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Oracle

Medium term forecast:

1. Vancouver population will grow about 60,000 per year going forward.

2. Many local workers who rent will soon move south of Fraser and commute. But they will find out that their commute will be 4 hours a day in a few years.

3. The window of opportunity to buy may have been last winter after the FBT by Liberals. Market on a tear since NDP.

4. The visible minorities will command a bigger majority. Richmond schools are already at 80%. Soon they will have own councils and things are going to change rapidly.

5. As whites rush to leave, they will push up values even higher in okanagan and island.

Abdul Lahazi
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Abdul Lahazi

Can you give this topic a rest? You are relentless.
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Lost...but not leased
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Lost...but not leased

I had to laugh at stats re Richmond is now 52% Chinese. IMHO this stat is so far behind reality. it is pathetic..perhaps the statisticians were forced to admit is over 50% in some subjective politically correct methodology.

Richmond was 52 % Chinese years ago.

I drive around Richmond and its becomes “Spot the Caucasian”.
Its like some horror sci-fi movie like they were abducted by aliens or rounded up in some prison camp.

Drive or walk around City Center…Canada Line…..or observe public schools from K- 12..and Spot the Caucasian….its get rather unsettling what has occurred.

Thanks Gov’t…ya $%#@ *&^ $%^ ..the true racists. If the role was reversed, you would have UN sanctions.

Combat roach
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Combat roach

Right on, “quiet and peaceful” ethnic cleansing generously supported by authorities and enforced racial demagoguery. Morbid social experiment and othing but disaster, tragedy and shame.

Shut It Down Already
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Shut It Down Already

Can you give this topic a rest? You are relentless.

Lost...but not leased
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Lost...but not leased

Sorry..the topic won’t rest, its only getting worse…so why should we…?

The next phase of colonization is more war zone stories about how THEY won’t hire Caucasians… and stories like WE don’t belong here in this increasingly conquered Chinese colony.

Who will be the lucky “last”Caucasian to turn out the lights???? …..that time is quickly approaching.

Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

You don’t have to say sorry to that sell out piece of shit.

He deserves a rope, not an apology.

Shut It Down Already
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Shut It Down Already

Do you even remember the last time you were relevant here?

Abdul Lahazi
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Abdul Lahazi

Mirror, meet SIDA.

Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

Rearrange the letters in SIDA, you get a nasty disease.

Combat roach
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Combat roach

No, don’t need to rearrange letters at all.

https://sh.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIDA

Shut It Down Already
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Shut It Down Already

Admin, do you employ the same childcare service as the White House?

Just me
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Just me

Actual, in French AIDS is spelled exactly like SIDA. I always thought it was an appropriate coincidence. That disease turns the immune defences against the good antibodies, and it removes their ability to fight infections. A bit like our own SIDA, always trying to stop people from raising valid concerns about the behaviour of some recent arrivals to Canada.
Stop people from objecting to that behaviour by accusing them of racism and turning them against each other. While the criminals keep going at it undisturbed.

Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

A disease that attacks a body’s good defences to prevent it from protecting against hostile invaders.

Yep, that’s scumbag sida. And Garth Turner, and Justin the Turd.

Lost...but not leased
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Lost...but not leased

The French are next in line, once we clean house …..mais oui

Shut It Down Already
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Shut It Down Already

I’ll stop accusing you of racism when you stop using racial slurs whilst trying to claim that you’re “raising valid concerns”, retard.

Lost...but not leased
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Lost...but not leased

Cultural Marxist MoFo Retard ?

or how many guesses do I get..?

Shut It Down Already
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Shut It Down Already

Next time at least wait a few days before reusing one of your replies, Mr Inaginative.

Abdul Lahazi
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Abdul Lahazi

copy from me much ?

ostritch
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ostritch

And you Too. All the bears here helped this happen

ostritch
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ostritch

And you denied it too.

ostritch
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ostritch

It’s your fault because you denied HAM for years.

Raincity
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Raincity

Bosa Waterfront in downtown is swamped with Asian buyers. Snapping up office space, which will be rented out to local businesses, at rents that can be jacked up. Clever way of getting away from the real estate controversy. And, another clever way of laundering money.
Wake up people! We are being taken advantage off! Does anyone care!!!!

Abdul Lahazi
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Abdul Lahazi

Repost.

patriotz
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The most office space that is built, the less rents can be “jacked up”. And foreign owners of office space will have to accept the market rent just like local owners. Don’t forget the property tax rates which are 5x that of residential.

Raincity
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Raincity

Since the office spaces are strata, like condos, they will probably leave them empty, another way to hide their money, without worrying about empty house tax.

Just me
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Just me

British Columbia Premier John Horgan opened his New Democratic Party’s convention on Saturday with an exuberant cheer to celebrate the party’s rise to power after 16 years of Liberal governments, but he quickly turned to serious issues ahead.

http://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/horgan-tells-celebratory-b-c-ndp-convention-delegates-tough-decisions-ahead

But not a pip about housing. I guess it is not among the serious issues ahead.

history
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history

We all know Winning in life is thru managing minimum payments on enormous amounts of debt.

Here assembled are the Debt Pigs

Queue Black Sabbath

Lost...but not leased
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Lost...but not leased

Translation:

Horgan and company will kill 2 (*** non -endangered*** ) birds with one stone by designing either a dam comprised of shipping containers converted to social housing …………or proceed with a Joint Venture with Concord Pacific to integrate subsidized condo units within the Site C dam structure.

After the obligatory circle jerk with the Green Party….they will renew lease on shit- eating grins, but well camouflaged via their heads up their collective asses…all ordered and audited by actual glorious leader Geoff Meggs.

PS: Stay Tuned NDP fans..don’t turn that dial….. much .more disappointment and disillusionment to follow.

YVR
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YVR

“But not a pip about housing. I guess it is not among the serious issues ahead.”

The NDP have already solved housing. They have ordered the shipping containers for the homeless and budgeted the extra funding for the residential tenancy office. What more do you want? We have been told those are massive NDP accomplishments by Selaena and Carol. Eby even mentioned them in his news letter. The NDP are done with housing.

Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

Site C is the most immediate issue that needs to be addressed.

Billions of our taxpayer dollars are at stake.

Well, for those of us who pay taxes…locusts don’t need to be concerned about this.

Just me
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Just me

As usual, I hope you are right. I have not lost all hope in the NDP. But it is becoming harder and harder to rationalize their behaviour about housing.
Frankly, every time they mix the housing issue with homelessness, I feel like punching them.

Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

I would like to see how you would deal with the incredible fucking cesspool left behind by the Libs if you had to come in and clean it up.

Would you wonder why a bunch of knuckle draggers were bleating like retards about how you hadn’t fixed everything yet?

The partisans on this board remind me of the CNN twats who do nothing but attack the president.

YVR
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YVR

So the best way to deal with the “incredible fucking cesspool” it is to do nothing?

Shut It Down Already
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Shut It Down Already

Well, they could start with following through with their campaign promises, eh hyper-partisan moron?

YVR
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YVR

“Site C is the most immediate issue that needs to be addressed.”

I bet Site C goes through. Either that or Horgan flushes $4 billion down the toilet. That is 8 times the fast ferry debacle. At least we got 3 cents on the dollar for those at auction. We get nothing for the $4 billion if Site C is cancelled. Canceling Site C would be the end of the NDP if they are not done already.

Abdul Lahazi
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Abdul Lahazi

Site C is a Liberal legacy and you can thank them for the loss. It was unneeded and unwanted from the start.

YVR
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YVR

It will be a Liberal legacy if it goes forward. An NDP legacy if is is stopped and we are saddled with $4 billion of debt plus interest for nothing. That will come back to haunt the NDP for eternity ever time someone cites the provincial debt which will be massive at the end of the NDP term. As far as unwanted, the majority of BC still think the dam should go forward. Global reported last night the NDP caucus is split on whether to go forward. If canceled the NDP are done. Lets hope they cancel.

https://energeticcity.ca/2017/10/angus-reid-poll-shows-plurality-b-c-residents-favour-continuing-site-c/

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My guess is they will try some sort of mothball option….freeze it so it may continue sometime in the future. We are billions n the hole now..we can’t afford to complete it in the present time.

The only reason the NDP would continue is if they have no choice via costly lawsuits etc., and to what degree their union supporters are pushing it.

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I was there lots was said on measures to cool the market…it’s coming

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Too late,
Housing has had its soul destroyed… a wasteland of debt

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In February? I have this nightmare that come February they will simply bring in a couple of toothless measures, nothing of consequence.
Then we can kiss goodbye to ever seeing house prices within the realm of realistic prices for locals.

They need to draw a line in the sand and stop the flows of money from China. Anything short of that will be perceived like betrayal from 90% of their voters. Especially in the Metro Van.

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Grow para bolas

Man up

You cry incessantly branch hacker!

Juvenile political commentary

Trees, trees, trees.. no forest

Drama queen

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Re NDP….

This may be good….For probably the first time in history..they may actually be forced to make a solid pragmatic decision that transcends cheap partisan politics(as opposed to NDP 1.0 (circa 1972) and NDP 2.O (circa 1990’s )full of stupid “PET PROJECT” tricks.

Re: housing…we are entering Winter….you would think at minimum they would have addressed social housing for the most vulnerable? However, I have this feeling that “certain groups’ (ie Developers and Foreign buyers) are lobbying in NIMBY fashion.

IMHO, they are toast if they haven’t been decisive when their 1st anniversary come around, ……..people’s patience is wearing thin.

I voted for NDP once…
Regardless, they do have the chance to move into the existing void of “mainstream centrist” position..maybe that’s what they are jockeying for.

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Incidentally, cooling the market should not be the objective. Lower prices should be the clear and unambiguous target.

We should not try to have low price growth. We should target negative growth.

If the NDP comes out with nonsense about preserving the equity of homeowners, they are doomed at the polls.

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Because homeowners aren’t the majority of voters? Is that why they’re doomed?

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Homeowners are not the majority of their voters. And definitely not in metro Vancouver.
If they lose Vancouver, they lose the elections. Simple math.

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The homeownership rate in Metro is 65%.

Can you win Metro if 65% of the voters are pissed that their home equity drops?

The tide is against us.

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Where did you get that figure? It sounds higher than the ones I have seen based on Census. In Vancouver proper renters are a majority (52% or so).
Regardless, among homeowners, the vast majority will vote BC Libs. Those votes are locked in. The NDP will not win those any time soon.

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Actually, I found some recent data.

http://www.metrovancouver.org/services/regional-planning/PlanningPublications/MV_Housing_Data_Book.pdf

In 2011 the rate was 65%: page 95. I suppose it went down since.
The ownership rate drops dramatically in the areas that elected the NDP (just see the breakdowns). Areas in the suburbs have higher ownership rates and elected BC Libs MLAs.

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And the overall Canada rate is 70% – highest ever.

Back in the 80s the Metro’s HO rate was around 55% and rose to a peak of 65% during the bubble.

Home prices don’t go up when most people don’t buy homes – they go up when most people do buy homes.

People aren’t being priced out – they are pricing themselves in.

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I repeat. The bulk of NDP voters in metro Vancouver are not homeowners. In fact, they voted NDP in expectation they would induce a reduction (yes, a drop!) in house prices.
The NDP will lose many Vancouver risings if it diesn’t Keep its end of the deal. And if that happens, they will lose power.

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I’d love to see the poll that backs up your claim that most people voted NDP due to expectation of lower house prices. That sounds more like projection to me.

Also, there’s a whole province outside Vancouver in case you’d forgotten.

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Ya and how many seats did the NDP win outside of the lower mainland?

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Projection? In Vancouver there is rage. If you run against it, you lose.
Christy C,ark knows that well by now.

How many seats in the interior must the NDP gain to offset big losses in Vancouver? No chance.

Losing Vancouver is not an option for them. It would be political suicide.

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Yes. but the % that ARE homeowners will get pissed if the NDP do anything to significantly drops home prices. And if that happens they will lose power.

Damned if you do – damned if you don’t. Quite the tightrope to walk.

Which is why most politicians have preferred to ignore the elephant in the room.

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Again, the small share of homeowners who voted for the NDP in Vancouver metro are those who are either reasonable (they understand this cannot go on forever without major consequences) or worried ( about their kids not being able to afford to live in Vancouver). These guys will be ok with lower prices.

Those homeowners who get angry with lower prices are not NDP voters to start with. They vote for the BC Liberals. Vote is fragmented across housing ownership lines in Metro Vancouver.

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Yes, Liberal voters are greedy pigs, like the party their voting for.

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I could not put it in better English than that.

YVR
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I guess NDP voters would be greedy pigs as well since the NDP have kept all the same housing polices. Either that or they are dumb and naive not realizing they were lied to.

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So people wanting to keep their own home prices high are greedy pigs.

People who want other people’s homes price to drop like a stone, so they can buy for pennies on the dollar when those homeowners go bankrupt are SAINTS??

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IMHO, no Gov’t would dare to create scenarios to lower house prices..that would become an uncontrollable juggernaut. The measures to achieve this would be very draconian..ie brutal.

Also..not all NDP supporters are hard core left wingers…many are of the right of center persuasion. These may be THE most vocal critics of lower home prices. Do people think union members are so benevolent as to sell their homes at a discount ?

High home prices are a legacy that compounds through successive provincial and federal gov’ts since Expo 86.

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Actually, any government would. If their re-election depended on it.
The NDP will not get back in power if house prices are higher than now in. 3 years time.

You can bank on it.

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Rediculous

Was at Convention as well….February budget. Heard it directly from both Minster of Finance and Minister of Housing.

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Perhaps my vote will pay off after all…?

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That’s because he’s now faced with reality also known as paying for things. Where Is the money? China. Russia. India. Maybe one day America again but we don’t allow American overinvestment, remember? We like our sovereignty. Har d har har. Joke is on us. They don’t call us dumb Canucks for nothin’.

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Li’s tower sale points to China turning money tap back on

Read more at: https://www.dealstreetasia.com/stories/satsun-lis-tower-sale-points-china-turning-money-tap-back-85656/

Crossing fingers that this is not correct. Otherwise we are in trouble again in Vancouver. The only ones to celebrate will be retiring homeowners, developers and people like Bob Ronnie.

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Crossing fingers?

You dont try and create a cross, you take note of them when they occur, draw your squares and oppositions, and act accordingly.

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Should historic racism against Chinese-Canadians be enough to kill new Chinatown condo?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/should-historic-racism-against-chinese-canadians-be-enough-to-kill-new-chinatown-condo-1.4386459

>>> expect the FBT to become the new focal point of the “racism” conversation…

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Trudeau’s chief fundraiser linked to Cayman Islands tax scheme
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/stephen-bronfman-trudeau-paradise-papers-1.4382511

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“Tax avoidance, tax evasion is something we take very seriously.” That is what Mr. Trudeau, Canada’s Prime Minister said.

I am silent. Dead silent.

The people of Canada voted for you, Mr. Trudeau. They trusted you.

I am not interested in hearing an answer from you Mr. Trudeau, it does not mean anything, anymore.

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Karma is a bitch..

Trudeau’s mother was a bitch brood mare for the NWO.

Capisce???

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Margaret wasn’t a bitch, she was a whore. And a junkie. And a lunatic.

But I’m sure Justin came away from all that very well adjusted.

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Thanks for clarifying that….and pulling no punches lol

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Also:

Margaret’s maiden name was SINCLAIR….a major ancient lineage…if one follows bloodlines of the elites.

In addition, I submit to people that Pierre Trudeau did not knock her up..Justin’s daddy is Fidel Castro…..simply compare photos.

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Nothing is gonna happen….
A while back on one of those 60 Minutes type shows KPMG was exposed for creating a tax shelter in one of those tropical locales.They structured it as a charity but one that funds could be taken out.

Nobody went to jail….seems re CRA there are different rules for rich tax cheats.

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http://www.smh.com.au/world/in-china-the-war-on-coal-just-got-serious-20171011-gyyvi6.html

The Vcr Chinese experience results in the reaction against polluters back home. This is WHY the local politicians are Quiet all these years. If you bring over a Critical Mass of Chinese, it provides the Numbers to influence the established corruption.

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Trump Is About To Crush Home Prices In Counties That Voted For Hillary

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-05/trump-about-crush-home-prices-counties-voted-hillary

Oh, please do.

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These are great proposals. Especially the one about taxation of capital gains for first residences: adding a cap is a no brainer.
I would vote for them if given a choice.

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The new tax bill also is not allowing the state tax deduction against federal taxes which primary impacts (increases net taxes) for those same states. LOL

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This will be a killer to high tax marxist states like California, NY and Illinois…..soon to be bankrupt.

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Bankruptcies of various US cities is increasing.
Hartford, the capital of Connecticut is one of them.

Why? its the pensions of Civil Servants with defined benefits. The taxpayers simply cannot afford these gold plated plans.

IMHO, I see no reason why this same problem won’t occur here in Canada. They must be keeping the lid on it, but for how long?

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Here’s two very good reasons:
1. The big metros in Canada are all amalgamated, except for Vancouver, where the core city is affluent. That’s unlike the US where you have poor core cities losing population and tax base like Hartford or Detroit.
2. Pensions of municipal employees in BC and Ontario at least (not sure about the rest) are managed by and are obligations of the provincial government.

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BC’s Municipal Pension Plan has assets of $46 billion, and a funding ratio of 104%; in simplest terms, it has more money than it needs to fund its future liabilities. This is near the bottom of the list of matters for Carole James to worry about at night.

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Give it a rest, you idiot. This plan has as much chance as TrumpCare. And, unlike Ontario, California has a budget surplus.

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Go Trump Go..yeah baby….
Love him or hate him…he is the long overdue enema for the status quo.
That b#tch Hillary deserves a lot of payback…

The vast majority of US homes are below the $250,000 mark…Hilary supporters seem to be those rich condescending Hollywood hypocrite rapist/molester types. Watch them squawk..oink oink pass the vaseline

patriotz
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If you look at it by congressional district many of those most affected vote Republican.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/03/us/politics/republican-tax-plan-state-and-local-deduction.html

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Can local city or municipal governments move against the housing bubble? It have been argued here that only the provincial or federal governments can act to cool the housing market. I disagree because the city can determine the tax rate that it charges for properties depending on their usage. There are two main types of taxes on properties, business tax and residential tax . Businesses pay much higher property tax than residences. This is set at the city and municipal level so the provincial government does not affect the rate or even the definition of a business. Undoubtedly, real estate is a big business in Vancouver. Prices are out of control due to hoarding and flipping of real estate. This practice looks like a business to me. Were the city to change their definition of the type of property that… Read more »
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Good point.

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This is essentially the empty home tax in Vancouver. The empty home tax equals the business tax rate. All cities and municipalities have the power to do this.

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Yes all levels of government have measures they could enact to make housing cheaper. By and large however, they don’t want to do that. The inaction won’t change the outcome, it will just make the wealth consolidation bigger at the top when the bubble pops.

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Yes, that’s a brilliant idea! You should form a party and run on that platform. Win for sure. Actually, I would suggest you go one step further and basically eliminate residential tax and only has business residential tax. It would help solve the housing problem in a cinch and all bears can scoop in get a bargain basement priced properties.

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I like your idea but I would rather just make it a major issue in the next civic election. The Green party is starting to move into the civic election sphere and perhaps they could make this a major issue. Turnout for civic elections is very small so you do not need to sway that many people and a lot of areas in Vancouver are full of renters. Being a major platform plank would align them with the provincial party. Weaver will be campaigning for PR so he could also campaign for the civic wing of the party at the same time.

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Agreed, good points…but in these pissing matches we always seem to let Gov’t off the hook.

Gov’t’s already extort plenty of fees taxes and other revenues . It is Gov’t that has allowed the foreign locust swarms to infiltrate literally every nook and cranny of our society. Taxing the locusts accomplishes nothing, as the Gov’t who allowed/encouraged the mess is simply rewarded with more revenue to piss away.

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Happy 100th birthday to communism!!

A big hat tip to Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot for their incredible ideas to make everyone poor and the 65 million people killed for this noble cause.

Although the popularity of communism has been slipping lately, there are people in Ottawa and California who are doing their best to keep it alive.

http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article182789821.html

YVR
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You forgot to mention the NDP!

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I thought Mao killed 65 million+ by himself?

We should get rid of anything that’s remotely communism, starting with communist in disguise NDP, followed by state managed healthcare.

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You have no idea WTF you are talking about. No one in California or Ontario are talking about a government takeover of the means of production. I used to like your humourus posts, but looks like you are spending too much time on ZeroHedge and Fox News.

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Most people don’t have a clue about what Communism is. Its a plan to ultimately subject the world’s population to One World Gov’t using both military and economic warfare. Various differences that historically have defined us will be either diluted out, bred out or simply eliminated

Whose in charge???….its the elites and their cronies

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in this world of over inflated assets, this is ground zero. if credit bubble in china implodes, 2008 will look like a G rated movie trailer

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