Friday free-for-all! December 14th, 2018

It’s the end of another week and perilously close to the end of another year. Let’s do another open topic discussion thread for the weekend!

Here are a few recent links to kick off the chat:

Home prices are economically justified
No major price drops for 2019
Welcome to the 1980s
Detached prices descending rapidly
Victoria mayor concerned about casino laundering
economic outlook dims

So what are you seeing out there? Post your news links, thoughts and anecdotes in the comments below and have a fantastic weekend!

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Best place on meth
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“My feeling is that the Chinese-Canadian community is divided,” said Guo Ding, a commentator and producer at OMNI BC Mandarin News.
“One group of people, they criticize Canada, they say, ‘Well, America is just closely linked,’ ” he said. “Another group, they think we have to respect the law because Canada is a country of law.”
Those opinions also tend to fall along regional lines, he said, with those from mainland China supporting Meng and those from Hong Kong or Taiwan supporting her extradition.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canada/chinese-canadians-have-varying-reactions-to-canada-s-handling-of-huawei-case-1.4218542

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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/us-politics/article-us-vows-to-help-return-of-canadians-held-in-unlawful-detention-in/

“…Jorge Guajardo, who was Mexico’s ambassador to China from 2007 to 2013, said Ottawa should go further than that by stopping or slowing down the processing of travel visas for Chinese citizens wishing to come to Canada. Such a move would put pressure on Beijing through wealthy Chinese citizens who regularly travel to Canada.

“China is playing in a way that is unconventional, and I strongly believe requires a commensurate response,” Mr. Guajardo said. “Canada can stand up to China. I think Canadians under-appreciate how much Canada is desired as a destination by the Chinese elite.”

😉

Screwed
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Screwed

Turd will never do this.

YVR
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You’re right. Turd is too weak. Plus he admires communists so why would he prevent them from coming here.

crabman
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UK just did a good!

“Under new legislation, law enforcement agencies can seek the orders from a court when they have “reasonable grounds to suspect” that a person lacks enough legal income to explain a large purchase — and has ties to a foreign public official or possible links to crime. If recipients of the orders can’t show that they used legitimate income, the court may allow the government to seize the property.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/to-combat-dirty-money-britain-asks-how-did-you-pay-for-that-mansion/2018/12/14/33062c5e-ec38-11e8-baac-2a674e91502b_story.html

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“But it is fraught, forcing wealthy individuals to demonstrate that they bought property with lawfully earned funds — a departure from legal precedent that required the state to prove the use of illicit money.

“It is quite a dramatic move to put a burden on somebody to explain the legitimacy of their income, versus the reverse burden, which would normally be on the state to show income or property had been unlawfully obtained. ”

Brilliant. If we had that here, thousands of homes would be seized as 90% of mainlanders would not be able to show the money they paid with was legitimately earned.

YVR
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“It is quite a dramatic move to put a burden on somebody to explain the legitimacy of their income, versus the reverse burden, which would normally be on the state to show income or property had been unlawfully obtained. ”

It is done all the time here for drug dealers. It would be near impossible for a foreign country to prove income or property had been unlawfully obtained in China. If someone has legitimate income in China it should be easy for them to prove. And then they should pay income taxes on that income in the state they are buying the house.

Laibach
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It is huge shame that Canada finds itself struggling in the travesty involving shitty scumbags on the international political scene.

“There’s a very clear freeze on the Chinese side,” he said. “It’s not going to be business as usual. It’s not going to be compartmentalized, to use that wonderful phrase. It’s going to be front and centre of Canadian-Chinese relations until we resolve it and until she is released into the hands of the Chinese authorities.”

https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/business/canada-will-be-on-the-losing-end-over-huawei-arrest-professor-1.4219927

Oracle
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Oracle

No they wouldn’t

Cancel all foreign student visas and 10 year visas. .

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““It was as if… China had arrested the daughter or the widow of Steve Jobs from the Apple corporation.”

Why do these clowns keep trying to compare thieving, cheating crooks to genius US inventors?

And why are the locusts so fucking proud of this criminal organization, even the local locusts here in Vancouver?

YVR
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No it would be more like them arresting Hillary Clinton which they should have done.

StupidityCheck
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StupidityCheck

Six years of GOP investigations… no crimes found. The only ones getting “locked up” work for the tRump crime family.

YVR
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YVR

It’s coming. Once the new AG is confirmed Hillary and the rest of the corrupt Obama cabinet are going to jail. All the things they have tried and failed to get Trump with will come back to haunt them.

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

Is that a prediction?

SilentBob
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Best news I’ve heard all week. Lets hope the extradition drags out for decades.

Canada is for Canadians
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Canada is for Canadians

Nearly 4 in 10 in Metro Vancouver see real estate industry as ‘extremely corrupt’

https://globalnews.ca/news/4765441/4-in-10-metro-vancouver-real-estate-corrupt/?utm_source=Article&utm_medium=MostPopular&utm_campaign=2014

>>> so the other 6 out of 10 view the industry as just “corrupt” not “extremely corrupt”.

Joe Money
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“In fact, a full 37 per cent of Greater Vancouver respondents described the sector as “extremely corrupt.””

Which means that 63% don’t. About the same percent that are home-owners. No surprise here.

realist
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realist

This is an encouraging report, as it indicates that Metro Vancouver residents are coming to understand their present circumstances.

Laibach
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Laibach

Yap, great stuff. A good clean up was long overdue.

“Existing Chinese migrants could “reconsider their overall commitment to a Canada move for the extended family, as well as encouraging potential new China migrants to consider shifting migration patterns to more friendly climates,” the report stated.”

https://m.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/12/14/huawei-cfo-arrest-vancouver-housing_a_23618338/

Slava
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Slava

Please do. No one is interested in you being here. Just leave already.
Why not stay in glorious China?

Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

Again, this arrest is a blessing, a godsend a huge gift to our city and our country.

I hope they all pack up and leave out of fear.

YVR
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YVR

I personally think this arrest could throw more cold water on HAM in Vancouver than anything we have seen yet. It would be nice to see her assets seized as well to really make this something these crooks will pay attention to.

kabloona
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kabloona

In Vancouver, it really *IS*always about the Housing Market….

🙂

Future headline from Vancouver Sun:

“Massive asteroid to strike earth causing extinction-level event; Vancouver realtors expect slight pull-back in sales.”

Bubble
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A 35% cut, but still too expensive?
6012 CHANCELLOR BOULEVARD, Vancouver (a duplex near UBC)
http://www.realtylink.org/prop_search/Detail.cfm?MLS=R2315423&REBoards=All&From=MLS
History:
Date / Note
2018-Oct-12 Listed $1,888,000
2018-Oct-08 Expired $2,888,000
2018-May-07 Listed for sale
2018-May-01 Expired $2,990,000
2017-Aug-11 Listed for sale
2017-Aug-11 Terminated $3,288,000
2017-Jun-23 Listed for sale
2016-Aug-10 Expired $2,598,000
2016-May-05 Listed for sale
2016-Jan-05 Terminated $2,150,000
2015-Feb-24 Sold $1,738,000

Laibach
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Laibach

Fucks not only got a playland for their shit here but they also got an honorable status of protected rare species.

“A Central Lonsdale townhouse owner has again been ordered by the courts to stop advertising her home as a hostel. But a B.C. Supreme Court judge stopped short of forcing the sale of Emily Yu’s home following allegations she continues to accept overnight guests in violation of court orders.”

https://www.nsnews.com/news/court-won-t-force-sale-of-illegal-north-van-hostel-townhouse-yet-1.23535925

Laibach
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Laibach

Funny how vermin always, but always has a health issue before justice, what a fucked existence is that?

“He attributed Yu’s mistake to cognitive difficulties stemming from past concussions.“

Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

I wonder if those concussions were a result of pissing off everyone she ever came into contact with her entire life?

Laibach
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Laibach
Oracle
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Oracle

Take a look at this. Vancouver and other west coast cities. Great visual.

https://pudding.cool/2018/12/3d-cities-story/

paulb
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New
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http://www.clivestevepaul.com

Hyper-mega-Bull
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the hostage takings in china are nothing new and shouldn’t surprise anyone. US has suffered from this for a long time. but it doesn’t stop them from getting tough with china. Beijing Is Holding U.S. Citizens ‘Hostage’ in China Exit bans are a new tool in China’s global coercion campaign. In its ongoing campaign to extend its reach beyond its borders, the Chinese government has found a new form of leverage: American citizens in China. Last year, Beijing prevented several U.S. citizens from leaving China, including a pregnant woman, according to email correspondence obtained by The Daily Beast. The total number of so-called exit bans placed on U.S. citizens in China is unknown, but at least two dozen cases have occurred within the past two years, according to one analyst’s estimate. https://www.thedailybeast.com/beijing-is-holding-us-citizens-hostage-in-china this is a country that treats political dissidents… Read more »
Cana is for Canadians
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Cana is for Canadians

China is a totalitarian regime and people need to remember that.

stagnate
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stagnate

time for trudeau to go. the country is in a no win situation now; no one really cares about phone execs and whether they might be doing some deals with Iran. Canadians expect their police and court resources to be allocated to safety things, like maybe the bevy of unsolved murders out there.

Hyper-mega-Bull
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Hyper-mega-Bull

you want to break our extradition treaty with US because of threats from the criminal gang that runs china?

pathetic.

stagnate
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stagnate

you’re too intelligent for nonsense like that. the u.s. expected to be ignored but since we played along they now have a bargaining leverage chip in trade talks.

Hyper-mega-Bull
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Hyper-mega-Bull

the US now has leverage because there is evidence that huawei broke the law and a huawei executive stupidly decided to travel to canada which follows the law.

Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

Huawei is a criminal enterprise, they should be banned from all countries. Even their phones should be banned.

That scummy bunch of chinese gangsters destroyed Nortel by hacking into them for years, stealing their technology and then selling it as their own around the world for half the price.

I would turn over little Meng-Meng to the US pronto and hope she gets life in prison.

Then start rounding up the rest of these crooks on Canadian soil.

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

I’m sure the US expected Canada to uphold the treaties they’re legally obliged to uphold.

Harry Wang
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Harry Wang

The Chinese promise, they don’t deliver: Gordon Chang

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaC6gqI2Toc

KickKickThemOutOut
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KickKickThemOutOut

Impossible to take this pimp serious when he is consistently and tirelessly predicting the collapse of China for the last 20+ years while China is stronger and stronger.

Hyper-mega-Bull
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Hyper-mega-Bull
Hyper-mega-Bull
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Hyper-mega-Bull

China’s Economy Slows Sharply, in Challenge for Xi Jinping

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/14/business/china-economy-xi-jinping.html

Doomcouver
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Doomcouver

Imagine if Trump is the one to pop the China bubble. Great president or greatest president?

Selective Memory
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Selective Memory

Another Great Depression? Or Greatest Depression?

StupidityCheck
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StupidityCheck

Stupid comment or stupidest comment?

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

He’s definitely the greatest liar.

March: The president has no knowledge of any payments.
April: You’ll have to ask Michael Cohen why he gave her money.
May: OK, I reimbursed him.
July: They faked the recordings!
August: OK, I paid but that’s not a crime!
December: Obama did it, too! Witch hunt!

But he’s anti-immigration so his dumbass base still backs him.

xyz
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xyz

“But he’s anti-immigration…”

There you go again…telling everyone else here that they supposedly fall short of truth while you spout nonsense…Trump (and many presidents before him) allow over 1 million legal immigrants into the US each year…and that isn’t about to change.

According to the 2016
Yearbook of Immigration Statistics, the United States admitted 1.18 million legal immigrants in 2016

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_States

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

Trump wasn’t president in 2016, dipshit. But he did support a 2017 bill to reduce legal immigration by 50% (the Reforming American Immigration for. Strong Economy Act).

See also his “public charge” stands.

Slava
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Slava

Dipshit, please tell us how much immigration China allows?

YVR
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YVR

Of course your statement is fake news. Trump supported a revised version of the bill which would not cut overall immigration but would make it similar to Canada where a point system is used rather than a lottery. In fact under Trump no country in the world has allowed more immigration than the US. Trump just wants to make sensible changes that were all supported by Schumer, Obama and Clinton in the past but now because Trump supports them the far left must oppose them and call them racist.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1073327086037741568

patriotz
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“Trump supported a revised version of the bill”

Which didn’t get passed due to inadequate support from his own party. It would have changed the source breakdown considerably, with fewer immigrants from Latin America and more from Asia. Another feature which seems to be borrowed from Canada is that it would have allowed US citizens to bring in their parents on non-immigrant visas.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/1720

Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

Ironic that a compulsive liar accuses others of lying.

SAD!

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

Accuses? It’s now accepted fact that he lied.

YVR
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YVR

Accepted fact by who? The far left who have no ideas other than to oppose Trumps policies no matter what it is? It is irrelevant anyway. The fact that that is all you can bring up proves how great his presidency is. Nobody cares if he paid two women who were extorting him for a sexual encounter that happened 10 years ago. It is irrelevant to the presidency and his election platform. Trump has kept his election promises people care about. On the other hand Obama kept few of his election promises. Now Obamacare has been ruled unconstitutional Trump has erased the last of the black stains of the Obama presidency. Another election promise kept by Trump.

Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

I don’t recall Obama making any serious election promises.

“Hope and change” is not a platform.

YVR
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YVR
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Best place on meth

No, what I mean is that a compulsive liar has no business pointing out the lies of others and should shut their fucking mouth.

But that only applies if the compulsive liar has a sense of shame, which you and your fellow countrymen certainly do not.

KickThemOut
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KickThemOut

First it was baby formula, now it’s baby powder. Absolutely disgusting that shithole of a country China knows no limit of debauchery. Surprising there are any baby left alive in China.
https://business.financialpost.com/news/retail-marketing/jj-shares-drop-on-report-company-knew-of-asbestos-in-baby-powder

KickKickThemOutOut
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KickKickThemOutOut

OMG I don’t know Johnson & Johnson is a Chinese company. Thanks for letting me know.

Party on
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Party on

The borrowing and spending binge by Canadian households, businesses and governments (all levels) continues unabated.

At the end of September, 2018 the total debt outstanding in Canada (bottom line of the Statistics Canada credit market summary data table) was $7.953 trillion. At the end of September, 2017 the total debt outstanding was $7.577 trillion. In the 1 year period from the end of September, 2017 to the end of September, 2018 it increased by $376 billion. This is an increase of 4.9%.

https://owecanada.blogspot.com/2018/12/canadian-total-household-business-and.html

Canada is for Canadians
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Canada is for Canadians

Canada caught between 2 powers, feeling alone in the world

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/canada-caught-between-2-powers-feeling-alone-in-the-world-1.4217803

>>> I can’t imagine a worse handling of these issues and it shows how politically naive Trudeau and the Liberals really are. The Conservatives were right when they said Trudeau is just not ready.

xyz
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xyz

“feeling alone in the world”

Get real.

Like Canada has never had someone arrested somewhere else in the world on our behalf and extradited here.

Happens all the time all over the world.

xhistory
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xhistory

Keep your head up, Canada. Right now it’s as low as it gets for us.

realist
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realist

I can only hope that you are correct.

xhistory
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xhistory

Im using the Horoscope of Canada in making this assertion, and noting the position of Saturn… the planet of Reality.

KickThemOut
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KickThemOut

Should have never granted bail and instead have an expedited extradition hearing.

patriotz
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The same thing happened when Harper was PM. Canada arrested an accused Chinese spy for extradition to the US and a Canadian couple in China were held, the husband for 2 years. You cannot please both China and the US. It doesn’t matter who you are or how “ready” you are.

https://globalnews.ca/news/4757271/michael-kovrig-arrest-china-garratt-spying-charges/

YVR
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YVR

The difference is Harper didn’t wet his pants and then beg the Chinese for forgiveness.

Canada is for Canadians
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Canada is for Canadians

and also just because it happened previously, does that make it better this time? Trudeau didn’t learn from that previous instance? Canada has been played like an old fiddle.

patriotz
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“Trudeau didn’t learn from that previous instance? ”

What should he have learned? Should he have tipped off Meng before her flight?

franko
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franko

He probably tried.

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

You probably made that up.