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eastender
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eastender

When adding a bedroom does not help: 808 MARINE DRIVE GIBSONS
Nov2015-Apr2016 $1,450,000 MLS # R2009820, 4 bedroom SFH
It’s 5 bedrooms now, and the market is hot, let’s double the price for this 102-year home!
2017-11-05 $3,288,000 MLS # R2217983
2018-01-28 $2,995,000 MLS # R2217983
2018-04-22 $2,499,000 MLS # R2217983
2018-07-01 $1,875,000 MLS # R2284141
2018-08-05 $1,795,000 MLS # R2295054
2018-08-19 $1,550,000 MLS # R2298569
2018-09-23 $1,449,000 MLS # R2298569
2018-10-14 $1,399,000 MLS # R2298569
2018-11-24 $1,349,000 MLS # R2324924
2018-12-06 $1,249,000 MLS # R2324924

8s suddenly stopped working, 9s to the rescue: 1143 E 13TH AVENUE VANCOUVER
May-Sep 2018 $1,888,000 MLS # R2263283, R2272052, R2303083
2018-09-16 $1,838,000 MLS # R2303083
2018-09-23 $1,798,000 MLS # R2303083
2018-10-07 $1,698,000 MLS # R2303083
2018-10-14 $1,599,000 MLS # R2303083
2018-12-06 $1,499,000 MLS # R2316506

For other examples of creative pricing, see daily reports at http://yvrpulse.com, “Price drops” section

paulb
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http://www.clivestevepaul.com

Bag it and tag it
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Bag it and tag it

Yikes…December could end up being the worst sales month on record as a % of total units.

Hyper-mega-Bull
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Hyper-mega-Bull

where is the demonstration calling for freeing spy princess going to be held?

the richmond court house that’s going to have her bail hearing or at the US consulate?

Hyper-mega-Bull
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Hyper-mega-Bull

china’s spy king and princess: following the law costs money so don’t do it.

“The US has very strict compliance policies, but American companies are used to it,” Ren said. “Nobody dares to flout the law, it has become a habit, and they can still achieve high speeds. Our company has not yet formed this habit, that is why communication costs are too high.”

https://www.scmp.com/tech/article/2176655/detained-huawei-cfo-sabrina-meng-wanzhou-told-staff-one-may-accept-risk

DaMann
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DaMann

And people want trade agreements with China? Haha. They never play by the rules. Yet Trudeau still has hi nose so far up their asses

Simple Solution
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Simple Solution

“rules” and “laws” are for others….

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

Such as those fine folk in the lobster industry.

MAKE TRUDEAU A DRAMA TEACHER AGAIN
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MAKE TRUDEAU A DRAMA TEACHER AGAIN

So you have a problem with blue collar workers eh? Elitist Tratior Pig.

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

Dumbass, it was already mentioned how they are circumventing the tariffs. I guess you only care about cheaters when they don’t look like you?

Do you think you might ever have a counter argument any time in the near future? Or is insults more your thing?

MAKE TRUDEAU A DRAMA TEACHER AGAIN
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MAKE TRUDEAU A DRAMA TEACHER AGAIN

I would say calling you an Elitist Traitor Pig would be a compliment compared to what you are usually called on the blog.

You’re welcome.

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

Why not tell us more about the range your landlord bought for you using the extra cash you throw at him each month on account of the amazing deal you negotiated for five years, genius?

Zzzzzzzzzz.

MAKE TRUDEAU A DRAMA TEACHER AGAIN
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MAKE TRUDEAU A DRAMA TEACHER AGAIN

Well since you asked so nicely. Our house was used in a movie shoot on Tuesday of this week.

We were out of the house on Monday while they prepped. Tuesday while they shot and we went back in on Wednesday at 5 after they put it all back the way it was and cleaned it.

We were put up in the Sutton Hotel for 2 nights and given $12,000 for the 3 days as well as $300 per day for food.

The income is tax free as we do not do this for more than 14 days per year.

Reason number 45 I love being a renter!

Thanks Landlord and thanks ETP for asking!

I was going to share my good fortune with the group but it seemed like bragging.

Oracle
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Oracle

40% of ballots returned as of this morning. A little over 30hours to go.

Any predictions people? This is what we’ve been talking about for a year now.

Last year, we were talking about B20 at this time and how that’s going to end everything. How time flies.

Oracle
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Oracle
So can we all agree here that a referendum loss is a confidence vote for the Greens and NDP? People aren’t really happy with what has transpired these last 2 years. Broken promises and massive delays. Guess the voters have spoken. I’m assuming all the Green voters from the last election voted FPTP. Their 18% of the vote last election translates into 11/40 ballots received so far. Thus they need 9/29 remaining to get PR to pass. Who would these 9 come from? I’d say add another 2 because of Greens who voted strategically NDP last election to get Christy out. So now we have 13/40. Where does the remaining 7 come from? All depends on: 1) strength of the liberal vote 2) strength of the NDP vote. This is key. How many of these people voted will determine the… Read more »
Dave
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Heh?

Simple Solution
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Simple Solution

I thought I was the only one who didnt understand the ramblings of the oracle

Iracle
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Iracle

Lol. The 40 number refers to the 40% of ballots received if converted to a non percent number. That is the baseline.

40.

To get PR to pass, you need to get 20/40 (50% of vote).

My methodology is obviously not simple but easily understandable once one realizes that 40 is the baseline that represents 100%.

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

There was never a reason to move away from percentages. Your “methodology” is stupid.

Oracle
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Oracle

Not as smart as you think you are. If you were intelligent enough, you would have figured out why.

Simple Solution
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Simple Solution

also known as “curve fitting”

Hyper-mega-Bull
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Hyper-mega-Bull

Skip the delivery: Surrey School District cracking down on online lunch orders

https://globalnews.ca/news/4734570/skip-the-delivery-surrey-school-district-cracking-down-on-online-lunch-orders/

bullwhip29
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bullwhip29

Get your “Vancouver Special” necklaces before they are gone forever….
https://tinyurl.com/y8vqhfdd

>>> clearly this vendor is a bit off the mark with the price though… $58…like really? why not the obvious go-to price of $88 and not the most “unlucky” combination of numbers you could come up with?

Hyper-mega-Bull
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Hyper-mega-Bull

looks like she used a low end 3D printer from a public library for that.

bullwhip29
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bullwhip29
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bullwhip29

MACLEAN’S: Chief of Defence Staff Jonathan Vance on what China is doing to Canada
https://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/chief-of-defence-staff-jonathan-vance-on-what-china-is-doing-to-canada/

bullwhip29
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bullwhip29

The City of Victoria is looking at implementing a tiny house pilot project that would allow residents to rent their yards to tiny home dwellers with a $500 rent cap
https://www.bclocalnews.com/news/the-city-of-victoria-considers-a-500-rent-cap-for-tiny-homes/

Dave
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I’m sure homeowners are going to line up to have a weirdo living in the driveway for $500 a month. We’re run by idiots.

bullwhip29
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bullwhip29

inevitably this will bylaw will be twisted and contorted in ways the powers that be didn’t see coming. picture “farms” with rows of these mini housing units all lined up. the operator could then charge extra on top of the $500 for optional “services” like housekeeping, “physiotherapy” and “medical” treatments, room service and various other organized social activities…just sayin’…

Dave
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Our governments can’t get anything done or accomplished because they trip over themselves and their own rules. For example, a proposed housing rental project in Vancouver is scaled back from 6 to 4 stories because the design panel thinks it won’t look nice or fit with the neighbourhood. Every single housing development or project faces similar issues. Burnaby for example, doesn’t have much low income housing because they wouldn’t relax the minimum size of a condo, nor reduce the parking requirements.

If government got the hell out of the way, we could solve the housing crisis in no time.

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

Good for Burnaby. Those 800sqft 3 bedroom condos in Vancouver are going to require conversion to 1 and 2 bed condos when all this nonsense is over.

bullwhip29
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bullwhip29

Get your “Vancouver Special” necklaces before they are gone forever….
https://patsykayjewelry.com/shop-jewelry-online/vancouver-is-special-house-necklace

>>> clearly this vendor is a bit off the mark with the price though… $58…like really? why not the obvious go-to price of $88 and not the most “unlucky” combination of numbers you could come up with?

bullwhip29
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bullwhip29
bullwhip29
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bullwhip29

Richmond Hill, Vancouver among Canadian cities taking a stand against real estate’s unlucky numbers
https://www.thestar.com/business/2018/12/06/richmond-hill-vancouver-among-canadian-cities-taking-a-stand-against-real-estates-unlucky-numbers.html

kabloona
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kabloona

“It’s an open secret among real estate agents that in certain communities, condo units on the fourth floor can take longer to sell…..
….In some Asian cultures, including Mak’s, the number four is shunned as unlucky because the pronunciations closely resemble the word for death in Mandarin and Cantonese.

Mak, the founding president of the Vancouver chapter of the Asian Real Estate Association of America, says for many of her clients, this cultural preference is real, and plays a large part in driving their real estate decisions.

So much so that many municipalities across the country have specifically addressed the issue of tetraphobia, the fear of the number four, or the more commonly found triskaidekaphobia, the fear of number 13….”

A-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!!!!

Joe Money
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Joe Money

How about a referendum to change Vancouver’s name to “4444”.

Bag it and tag it
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Bag it and tag it

China RE Huawei arrest: “”The Chinese side firmly opposes and strongly protests over such kind of actions which seriously harmed the human rights of the victim.””
hahaha..

bullwhip29
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bullwhip29

decision time for Trudeau. no tip-toeing around this mess. either let her go and declare war against the US or piss the Chinese off.

I also wonder if Trump will somehow blame Canada for this should the situation really go off the rails. and maybe then, he’ll play the hero card once again as he brings the two parties to the bargaining table…

Dave
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China as a brand has declined a lot in 2018. It’s not just Vancouver, but you see that sentiment all over North America. People are starting to ask if our previous belief that opening trade with China would bring them into the World community. It’s not really working. They have propped up North Korea, been a military antagonist, stolen from our corporations, treat many of their citizens poorly and dump fentanyl amongst many other issues. This change is sentiment can quickly grow to a point where popular opinion is to get tough on China.

Ves
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Ves

Dave,
That is not correct analysis in sense it does not look at the root cause. The root cause is financial globalisation is sinking and many people are beginning to save their personal interests without any care for others. An that includes not just China but UK leaving EU, fall of NAFTA, US tariffs on Canadian steel and softwood, abolition of free market in Canadian energy sector (State buying TransCanada, AB interfering with oil production of private oil companies).

Dave
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Sure, that’s the broader macro political trend going on in the World right now. But up to a year ago, China wasn’t something people gave much thought to. They are now. China as a brand is sinking fast. I doubt their government is very good at tracking trends of sentiment and the implications it can carry, so they might not even be aware this is happening. More likely, they think, “We’ve been acting like this for the past 20 years and nobody paid any notice to it, so why would we change? Stealing IP and poisoning the World has worked just fine for us, so why stop now?” I really doubt they can see this because that’s just how trends and change always works. Nobody sees change coming and by the time they do, it’s too late. So what are… Read more »
Ves
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Ves

Dave,
Capitalism is not a political project, it is simply a system of logic designed for creating profit. It was US that allowed capitalism to run wild. The logic of the US multinationals was to increase their profits by delocalising production to China. But what happened in just 25 years? Western middle classes began to disappear as result. People are marching in Paris not in Moscow & Beijing. And Canada, due to abusive financialization of their economy, ended up blowing a house bubble and making unbearable life for their own citizens, gutting productive and industrialised economy, and put themselves in unattainable position of selling the most toxic and expensive oil for just $14 a barrel to their only client.

Dave
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You seemingly disagree with my views, but haven’t explained why.

Ves
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Ves

It’s not that I disagree or agree with you. I just look at the facts.
Was the global financial system based in the United States faced its first crisis in 2008? Yes.
Was the revolt of the Western middle and working classes against the globalised upper class began two years ago with US elections? Yes.
Did the revolt continued with elections in Italy, Brexit, and demonstrations in France? Yes.

These are the seeds of current political climate, but you overlook them. And it appears that ruling class has its solution to divide the world into two distinct zones. In plain language, one zone will use Apple products and other zone will use Huawei products.

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

Half the world’s population lives in extreme poverty. I doubt phone brands are high on their list of priorities.

Ves
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Ves

Phone brands are just metaphor. Its about realignment of global trade between world elites. Globalisation is out. Protectionism and Tariffs are in. But if west does not return to productive capitalism middle classes will disappear and with them current political system.

Dave
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Why would you say that I overlook them? It has nothing to do with the case I was making which is that China is declining as a brand, and that China is risking a lot by continuing all the BS.

I disagree the ruling class has caused China’s decline. China is responsible for that. Trump is the only leader who has taken a stand against China. If anything the anger is bottom up, not top down. Our leaders will follow the trend, not start it.

Ves
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Ves

China brand will be irrelevant in Apple zone (North America) , and US brand will be irrelevant in Huawei zone (EuroAsia) in the very near future. World will split in two economic zones. That is where we are heading.

Royce McC
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Royce McC

Isolation from the First World order may emerge. But we all need access to certain resources found in different parts of the world. China’s strategic investment in some parts of Africa (for example) will make it hard for them to be ignored.

SilentBob
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SilentBob

The tide turned with Trump’s election; we’re always a few years behind the curve. Fun anecdote: of the people I talk to, those most mistrustful of the Chinese are themselves Chinese. Food for thought.

Dave
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Maybe Trump’s long game is the end result of pushing China out of the World economy. Maybe he doesn’t really want a trade deal and he’ll just antagonize them along the way.

I think we’re one event away from a Pearl Harbor type moment. If China does something that has a negative outcome for America, then you’ll see the public rally around them as Enemy Number 1. When America wakes up, watch the hell out.

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

History has shown that America cannot cope without an adversary to demonize and use as a tool unify the people. As soon as one enemy’s threat diminishes they go looking for another one. It’s quite fascinating behavior.

Simple Solution
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Simple Solution

I wonder if the “victim” has a Canadian passport….

Laibach
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Laibach

Of course she has Canadian passport. Somehow all those sketchy individuals have one in a spare pocket.

patriotz
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“Of course she has Canadian passport.”

And your evidence for this is…. well nothing. It is a fact that Meng has never lived in Canada though.

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

Laibach posts only toxic opinions and fairytales. He’s not good at facts. Or math.

Laibach
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Laibach

You are seriously screwed up. Get some counseling, it will do good for you.

“The Foreign Ministry did not comment on whether Meng entered Canada with a Chinese or Canadian passport.”

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-huawei-arrest-cfo-1.4934269

YVR
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YVR

Garth reporting the feds will dip their hand in the housing market a loosen credit starting soon.

So the pressure is on to have the qualifying rate (now at the bank offer +2%) capped at a lower level, and not float up with future rate hikes. I hear this is exactly what will happen in 2019. By the way, don’t be shocked if Ottawa – going into an election year – also allows 30-year amortizations again (with CMHC coverage), plus mortgage insurance for properties selling over $1 million. You can draw your own conclusions. Maybe someday we’ll elect people with spines.

https://www.greaterfool.ca/2018/12/05/careful-10/

patriotz
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Andrew Scheer is publicly opposed to the stress test and Canada-wide efforts to moderate the housing market in general. Look what he said in the Okanagan, one of the most overpriced areas in Canada:

“The problem, I believe, is that we have a government that believes that there’s a national housing market,” he said. “There’s not a national housing market, there’s dozens of local markets… yet when they (the government) make changes to the CMHC it applies all across the country.”
https://okanaganedge.net/2018/04/05/scheer-talks-business-housing/

YVR
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YVR

Andrew Sheer is 100% correct. They should be putting tougher measures in places like Vancouver compared to most other areas. Either way Turd is in charge and so far it has been a disaster.

patriotz
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“They should be putting tougher measures in places like Vancouver compared to most other areas.”

How about the Okanagan, which is just as overpriced considering the size of its cities?

Joe Money
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Joe Money

He’s right. The gov should stop manipulating the housing market through the CMHC – up or down.

patriotz
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“The gov should stop manipulating the housing market through the CMHC – up or down.”

But that’s not what Scheer said at all. He said: “Speaking to media after a question-and-answer session, Scheer said changing the CMHC to “be more responsive to local regions” is one way to address the issue, but didn’t give additional details on what those changes might look like.”

The existence of CMHC is itself manipulation of the market – up – and the way to end that manipulation is to get rid of it. The RE industry and its apologists – and frankly I think Scheer qualifies quite well – only see manipulation when credit availability is reduced.

Joe Money
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Joe Money

In that case, your right and you should have run for leader of the Conservative Party.

Stratahacker
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Stratahacker

Dear lying Patridiot,

Somehow that quote does not say what you claim it says .

YVR
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YVR

Patriditz is such a tool. One of the last people still in love with Trudeau.

kabloona
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kabloona

Garth also guaranteed higher interest rates than 1.75% by now…

His record of accurate predictions sucks, quite frankly….

YVR
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YVR

Guaranteed? Forecasting things like interest rates is an educated guess. Having said that Garth has been right in the past year on interest rates.

Inside information the government is working on a policy change is different. Garth has been accurate on this type of information in the past. Your boy Turd is in trouble and desperate. Next time vote for someone with a spine (and a brain).

kabloona
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kabloona

Nah, Garth pretty much *guaranteed* them going up more than this….and Poloz has proved him wrong on more than one occasion….

His basic argument went something like: American economy booming, inflation rising rapidly in the US, labour market tightening….therefore Fed will normalize rates by 2019.

Now even Powell seems to be backing off….

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

Only an idiot wouldn’t update their thinking in light of new information.

Unlike the clowns here who simply ignore all the data they disapprove of.

Selective Memory
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Selective Memory

Someone like Harper, say? Zero down, 40 year amortizations — a spineful politician indeed.

YVR
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YVR

I will take housing prices under Harper any day. They have tripled since the zero down 40 amortizations were retracted by Harper which makes bringing them back 3 times as absurd. Only a tool like Trudeau would consider such a thing.

Stratahacker
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Stratahacker

Harper rules, lefty maggots drool.

paulb
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New
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TI:12444

http://www.clivestevepaul.com

bullwhip29
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bullwhip29

Massive, corrupt B.C. cannabis, crypto, mining and energy shares scheme alleged by BCSC
https://www.vancourier.com/massive-corrupt-b-c-cannabis-crypto-mining-and-energy-shares-scheme-alleged-by-bcsc-1.23520420

Bag it and tag it
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Bag it and tag it

Murray Pezzim would be proud.

kabloona
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kabloona

Now, there’s a name from the past….. 😉

bullwhip29
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bullwhip29

this was the best part…

Another big player listed as a respondent is Justin Edgar Liu…

Liu is listed as residing at a palatial mansion on Groveland Road in West Vancouver, the same reported address of his mother May Joan Liu (Yee), an infamous penny stock player at the Vancouver Stock Exchange

Justin Liu operates cannabis stores, like his mother. May Joan Liu is director of WeeMedical Dispensary Society, which has run afoul with numerous municipalities (Delta, Richmond and Prince George among others), also for illegally operating a business.

bullwhip29
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bullwhip29

i also wonder what Pattison thinks of having these fine folks as neighbors?

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MAKE TRUDEAU A DRAMA TEACHER AGAIN!
This from the Okanagan Real Estate Board. Good for a chuckle. I’m amazed they would actually write something like this. Influencing market demand can be tricky and with two levels of government continuing to tinker independent of each other. Outcomes could quickly shift from balanced conditions that favour both buyers and sellers to a situation that could precipitate a market slide, which would benefit no one. “While one might anticipate that a sharp shift towards a strong buyers’ market might be positive, the reality is that the BC economy is so tied to real estate values that these conditions could result in job losses, mortgage foreclosures, and the like,” contends Beer, asserting “It’s never ideal when markets take steep shifts in either direction and government can do a lot to lessen the peaks and valleys, including a focus on not… Read more »
Joe Money
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Joe Money

” Economies grow because of hard work and innovation.. not because of some magical asset inflation”, Mark Carney, 2013

We here in BC like to rely on magic.

DaMann
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DaMann

I honestly don’t know how these people can write this shit with a straight face.

And if your only real economy is RE then you/we are all idiots.

Let me paraphrase for him ” Fuck the entire next generation who are completely priced out, just so long as I make money and I already bought mine”

Oracle
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Oracle

That’s how it is in india. Priced out workers without land long time ago.

Since then the land class has deliberately kept the working class a subservient. Meaning keeping policies in place that maintains the class structure. Because of such, the land class people’s kids enjor da life.

The working class parents are told to make their kids go to school, work hard and you will get everything.

Same thing is happening here.

Being the good guy won’t help. You got to fight this evilness with evilness. Otherwise you will lose.

Canada is for Canadians
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Canada is for Canadians

We don’t live in India.

patriotz
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Sounds just like David Lereah of the NAR circa 2007. “A market slide, which would benefit no one” – no one except buyers, of course.

bullwhip29
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Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

“The Chinese side firmly opposes to and strongly protests over such kind of actions which seriously harmed the human rights of the victim,”

Hahahaha! Shut up, clowns.

Doomcouver
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Doomcouver

Yes, only China should be able to harm the human rights of the Chinese. Stop appropriating Chinese culture Canada!

Canada is for Canadians
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Canada is for Canadians

more on this:

http://www.investmentwatchblog.com/massive-futures-dump-tomorrow-could-be-ugly/

>>> it could be a plot to derail the US / China trade talks…

Laibach
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Laibach

Is this even legal? Sabrina is actualy arested on Chinese theritory.

“The chief financial officer for China’s global tech giant, Huawei Technologies, has been arrested in Richmond and is facing extradition to the U.S.”

https://www.richmond-news.com/news/update-chinese-tech-giant-huawei-tells-the-news-how-cfo-was-arrested-while-changing-flights-at-yvr-1.23520521

YVR
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YVR

You have to love Trump. Turd cannot protect Canada so Trump steps in.

kabloona
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kabloona

I see what you did there…..

😉

Laibach
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Laibach

China’s embassy in Canada said that it resolutely opposes the arrest of Meng, saying in a statement on its website that it demanded her immediate release.

US authorities have been investigating Huawei since at least 2016 for allegedly shipping US-origin products to Iran and other countries in violation of US export and sanctions laws, sources told Reuters in April.

Bag it and tag it
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Bag it and tag it

And yet they want us to arrest a long list of Chinese criminals and send them back…difference here is that this criminal is in cahoots with the Chinese government orchistrating possibly the largest surveillance scheme in the history of our planet.

patriotz
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The usual BS from the Chinese. These are the same people who are holding American citizens hostage without charge,

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

America held Chinese citizens without charge for years in Guantanamo.

patriotz
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“America held Chinese citizens without charge for years in Guantanamo.”

They (i.e. Uighurs) were all eventually relocated to 3rd countries, because none of them wanted to return to China, where they would have faced far worse. That’s a pretty big difference. That’s not meant as a defense of the Guantanamo incarcerations in general.

Specuskeptic
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There’s no double standard in this case, SIDA. Guantanamo is doubtless problematic regarding human rights. However, as a free individual espousing political beliefs that may be in contrast to the government, where is it safer to do that, the US or China? Therein lies the false equivalency of the point I think you’re trying to make.

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

No, that’s just you moving the goalposts.

Specuskeptic
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No, that’s you with a false equivalency.

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

Incorrect. What on earth do political beliefs which may be critical of the government have to do with the topic? Nothing, you just threw those in so you could move the goalposts.

Specuskeptic
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“What on earth do political beliefs which may be critical of the government have to do with the topic?”

Your assertion was (by implication) that the Chinese imprisonment of those Americans was equalled by or is somehow comparable to US imprisonment of Chinese in Guantanamo. With that very narrow criteria, you implied that the US was no better/worse than China by some kind of measure. I countered with my example. Am I misinterpreting what you meant by “America held Chinese citizens without charge for years in Guantanamo.”? Why were you pointing it out in the first place other than to create an equivalence?

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

Some kind of measure? The measure was whether they imprison people without trial, but we can extend that to using torture or cruel and unusual punishments if you like?

Specuskeptic
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“The measure was whether they imprison people without trial, but we can extend that to using torture or cruel and unusual punishments if you like?”

I bet China imprisons more people without trial than the US does. Call it a hunch.

Canada is for Canadians
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Canada is for Canadians

Lock her up …

bullwhip29
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bullwhip29

imho this move ratchets up the china/us tensions bigly. very fitting this arrest occurred at what many deem to be ground zero for all the chinese corruption and bs. stock futures tanking once again. charts are busted with death crosses and bear flags all over the place. Cdn investors were granted a free gift today as US mkts were paused for the funeral. i wonder how many were awake to recognize this for what it was and wail out stocks that were inexplicably bid up when the TSX opened today.

bullwhip29
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bullwhip29

Why Maine lobster fisherman are using Canada to escape the tariff trap
https://globalnews.ca/news/4732478/trump-tariffs-lobsters/

>>> the going rate for one of those east coast lobster rolls (a hotdog bun with maybe 4oz meat) is now $19 US / $25 CAD…tremendous…another industry ruined forever. on a more local front, those “princess” pizzas from Steveston Pizza run $40 a pop now (up from $26) and the shop now asks if you want chopsticks with it too…

Oracle
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Inflation is up all over Greater Vancouver also. KFC burgers such as Big Crunch $9 at tsawassen mall.

Record immigration leading to record lease prices means prices go up. Plenty of satellite families and union pay people buying.

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

You’re now blaming immigrants for the price of junk food? Hahahahaha!!

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

So both sides are essentially committing fraud?

Oracle
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Oracle

40% of ballots in with 2 days left. Looks like we will finish with around 42%.

The low turnout favours the current system. Reason is the NDP didn’t contact their lectionaries list members. The other parties did.

So the BC Liberals are heading into election mode. Icbc and ridesharing will be at the top of their agenda. And they will probably win.

What a monumental failure by the NDP and Greens. Just like I predicted, NDP never really wanted this.

Dave
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I say 90% chance of a Spring election. If PR fails, NDP wants to go. If PR passes, NDP wants to go. If Plecas steps down, the government falls. If Liberals win Nanaimo, government falls.

I think the NDP would rather go earlier than later. The economy definitely isn’t going to get better 3 years from now.

Oracle
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Oracle

Less than 48 hrs to go. Let’s see if there is a last minute rush of ballots. Doesn’t look likely.

Dave
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Hard to read into the results. The Pro-PR ridings in the south island are strong. The anti ridings of Kamloops and Kelowna are moderate. The Liberal ridings of Richmond and Abbotsford and the NDP ridings of Vancouver are weak.

I think the Pro-PR side looks to be ahead because of the Island ridings.

Oracle
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Oracle

Agree. It’ll be close. At least Politics aren’t boring in BC.

Dave
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I think the NDP will win. But, reducing the cost of driving is a smart election play for the Liberals. The champagne socialists are clueless to the costs of living in BC. These high gas prices hurt your average working guy more than they know or care. The NDP will respond by limiting rate increases while they ‘study’ the problem and get ICBC fixed up. The NDP have a $1 Billion to blow on election goodies. There is still fresh anger against the Liberals. That said, I looked at the turnout numbers from the last two elections and we had a big drop off, which I think were Liberals sitting it out. A lot of those will come home. I think we’re getting an election no matter what happens with PR (I give it 80-90% odds). Here’s my thinking: –… Read more »
Laibach
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Laibach

Oracle, are BC Liberals going to get housing business as usual back on track and open doors to foreign hordes hence send prices back to the moon? Is it now and maybe the next couple of months the last moment to buy something even in Valley on a discount? Please advise.

Oracle
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Oracle

Rentabcontinue their upward march. Don’t gloat. And prices on low end barely budged.

Look at toronto. Their correction done. Prices at record levels again at low end.

Bag it and tag it
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Bag it and tag it

Van West condos dropped 3.4% MoM…that’s more than barely budging.

Oracle
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Oracle

Why do you keep thinking I’m supporting the Liberals, or care what they do?

I’m pointing how NDP royally screwed up their chance at fixing housing by purposely playing games and leading their voters astray.

FFS they had 1.5 years to fix the mess and dragged their heels. The hell with them.

Bag it and tag it
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Bag it and tag it

You said before you want the liberals in because at least then you’ll know where they stand, which is pro-bubble…so you can buy and cash in.

Oracle
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Oracle

You are mistaken.

My whole premise is all these parties are playing the public into thinking they have a choice. There are backroom deals all over the place. That’s why nothing gets done when a new government gets power. That’s what my bitching is about. I could care less for the Liberals.

Hyper-mega-Bull
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Hyper-mega-Bull

wasn’t this exactly what Trump wanted? this is what forceful action gets you.

China Announces Punishments for Intellectual-Property Theft

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-04/china-announces-new-punishments-for-intellectual-property-theft

Laibach
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Laibach

This is al laughable, they will commit to everything but not follow through with anything. It is just culture and tradition.

Hyper-mega-Bull
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Hyper-mega-Bull

you’re right. but the first step is to get them to agree to something. then when they break the agreement you punish them. you have to do the whole dog and pony show and assume that you are dealing with honourable people so when you drop the hammer on their melon shaped heads people don’t say you are the bad guy.

Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

Exactly, Trump knows the chinese are liars and their promises are worthless.

Once they renege he can go medieval on their asses.

Laibach
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Laibach

True, it is a pitiable public theatre where honor and good intentions are just coulisses.

Hyper-mega-Bull
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Hyper-mega-Bull

Donald J. Trump
3h3 hours ago
One of the very exciting things to come out of my meeting with President Xi of China is his promise to me to criminalize the sale of deadly Fentanyl coming into the United States. It will now be considered a “controlled substance.” This could be a game changer on what is…….
…..considered to be the worst and most dangerous, addictive and deadly substance of them all. Last year over 77,000 people died from Fentanyl. If China cracks down on this “horror drug,” using the Death Penalty for distributors and pushers, the results will be incredible!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1070312880095068160

that’s progress. now to make sure they follow through.

Doomcouver
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Doomcouver

It was already a controlled substance in China. Trump is once again too stupid to understand what is going on.

Hyper-mega-Bull
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Hyper-mega-Bull

he’s simplifying the message because he understands communication.

what better captures the essence of what he’s doing?

“china will list fentynal as a controlled substance” or
“china will list molecules structurally similar fentynal as controlled substances”

he’s not teach a fucking chemistry class here. crafting your message to match your audience isn’t stupid. it’s smart.

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

Please provide an example where Trump’s message was consistent with him addressing an intelligent audience.

Hyper-mega-Bull
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Hyper-mega-Bull

there’s no point. no matter what i show you, you won’t be convinced. and i absolutely no problem with you thinking that i’m wrong, or thinking that trump is dumb. in fact i prefer it that way.

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

Your keyboard is broken, genius.

franko
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” Trump is … … too stupid to understand what is going going on ” ??
Doesn’t seem to have stopped him from being able to outwit our airhead on pretty much every occasion.

When it comes to stupid, just think “India trip”

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

Trump is barely understandable at the best of times. Just read a transcript of any of his interviews. And only this week he retweeted something which suggested he can’t tell the difference between Paris and London.

Also remember back to their first meeting. That handshake. So funny.

MAKE TRUDEAU A DRAMA TEACHER AGAIN
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MAKE TRUDEAU A DRAMA TEACHER AGAIN

What do you know about character Traitor Pig?

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

Well, I know you’re a dumbfuck racist for starters who in all likelihood never went to college and is living off a windfall that he’s slowly pissing away.

I also know you constantly brag about your situation, telling anybody who’ll listen about your new kitchen range for example, thus enforcing my opinion that you’re a spoiled new money brat. The fact you’re overpaying your landlord by $500 month whilst crowing about new appliances is a strong indicator of low intelligence.

I see KD and cat food in your future.

Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

“who in all likelihood never went to college”

That’s why you’re such a worthless piece of shit, AIDS.

You think that anyone who didn’t go to college is a lowlife, but sadly a college education isn’t what it used to be when young people went there to get educated rather than indoctrinated.

From the sounds of you, college didn’t serve you well at all, you should have learned a trade instead.

Maybe then you’d actually have learned something useful and not become such a hideous group-thinking prick.

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

Not at all, and your dismal logic and comprehension skills have let you down once again. I know many people who didn’t go to college, and many of them are extremely successful either in terms of being at the top of their respective fields or because of the contributions they make to society. Others are wealthy through hard work and sheer determination. Sometimes a little luck but that never does anybody any harm regardless of their education, does it? They’re all good, kind people.

Not going to college doesn’t make you a dumb racist scumbag. But if you’re already a dumb racist scumbag then there’s a decent chance that you never went to college.

I’m happy to explain the mechanics behind this if you’re still in need of clarification, sometimes these things aren’t exactly intuitive.

Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

You can’t backpedal away from your disdain from the “uneducated”.

Toxic shitbag.

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

Would a Venn diagram help? I can use crayons if you like?

MAKE TRUDEAU A DRAMA TEACHER AGAIN
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MAKE TRUDEAU A DRAMA TEACHER AGAIN

So I guess you are now Elitist Traitor Pig!

Its so hard to keep track of all these names of yours. I guess I should have gone to college.

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

So it turns out I do know something about character, I suppose?

xyz
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xyz

@ SIDA

He’s smart enough to be, in all likely-hood, worth a lot more than you….

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

I suppose I never had a small million dollar loan, but at the same time I’ve never declared bankruptcy or lost a trial.

So I’ll call it a tie.

patriotz
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JT sucks
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JT sucks

Not sure what that has to do with stupid, unless you’re suggesting it would have been wiser to nuke Rocket Man along with millions of others. If you have a solution to the problem, why not let us know before the bell rings for round 2.

At least he didn’t kowtow to Rocket Man’s team decked out in pointed shoes or traditional Korean duds.

Hyper-mega-Bull
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Hyper-mega-Bull

“North Korea never pledged a promise to abandon this missile sites,” a spokesman for South Korea’s president said.

patriotz fell for fake news again, lol. what a chump…

… or is he deliberately trying to mislead?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/south-korea-says-nothing-new-report-identifying-north-korean-bases-n935541

Dave
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LOL. Fake News once again. Add it to the list and make it a contender for the fake news awards.

The Guardian story on Assange meeting with Manifort is a lock for top 10 if you’re placing any bets. That was so weak, they weren’t even trying.

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

We all know that million dollar bets aren’t exactly correlated with the truth after the Elizabeth Warren fiasco. He never did pay up.

YVR
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YVR

You need to get away from fake news. You don’t even know what the bet was do you?

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Shut It Down Already (original)

Trump’s reply when challenged about his failure to pay was “I didn’t say that” and “Who cares?”.

Very presidential.

JT sucks
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JT sucks

Kudos to Trump!
That’s a lot more than our Turd has done, at least according to our (former) ambassador to China, David Mulroney, who has severely criticized Turd for having done nothing while he has had plenty of opportunities.

I guess he’s too busy handing out millions for stuff like education for the worlds girls and women.

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Shut It Down Already (original)

I’m sure many fentanyl deals happen right outside VPDs station on Main. But blame Trudeau for that.

YVR
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YVR

The VPD station on Main was closed long before fentanyl became a problem.

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Shut It Down Already (original)

Of course but it stands as a symbol of the city’s hands-off approach. You don’t need to look to Ottawa to assign blame.

Simple Solution
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Simple Solution

shocked that it hasn’t turned into condos yet…

xyz
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xyz

Canada is now a place where you either spend money on pot or slave away pouring it into a bottomless mortgage or both. Both scenarios created and facilitated by many of our fearless leaders….

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southseacompany

“Bank of Canada holds key interest rate at 1.75% as economic outlook dims”, Financial Post

https://business.financialpost.com/news/economy/bank-of-canada-holds-interest-rate-at-1-75-per-cent

“Canada’s central bank took a break from raising interest rates on Dec. 5. The pause could last longer than many were expecting, mostly because policy makers are worried that the energy industry’s contribution to economic growth will be “materially weaker” than expected only a couple of months ago.”

bullwhip29
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bullwhip29

loonie at 18 month low…

stocks like CWB also testing similar levels and down 30%+ in 2018 alone

Doomcouver
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Doomcouver

Yes the Fed is going to force the BoC’s hand. Attempting to diverge rates too far from the Fed will make the Canadian dollar more worthless. This in turn makes everything priced in USD (aka. most of the goods Canadians purchase) more expensive. This price action will push up inflation, and the BoC will be forced to raise rates despite anemic economic growth. You could even see Poloz raising rates through a recession if inflation is unaffected. Luckily a housing crash should skew inflation numbers down quite a bit, as the price of housing is part of the calculation.

patriotz
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” Luckily a housing crash should skew inflation numbers down quite a bit, as the price of housing is part of the calculation.”

House prices are not part of CPI. However lower housing prices will result in lower consumer demand through job losses and lower borrowing power, which will tend to result in lower locally determined prices, particularly rents.

Doomcouver
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Doomcouver

You’re dead wrong, owned housing comprised over 16% of 2015’s CPI. https://inflationcalculator.ca/cpi-basket/

bullwhip29
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bullwhip29

reverse wealth effect, bigtime…

bullwhip29
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sure the Fed may be the dog that wags the BoC tail, but I don’t see Poloz taking such measures. what has unfolded in recent months is indicative of a looming economic slowdown which is long overdue. how severe it winds up being is anyone’s guess. if we go into recession or worse, deflation will be the problem imho, not the other way around. perhaps aside from some essentials that we need to buy, most other assets will plunge in value. this all points to another bigger round of QE. the BoC started nibbling at MBS not long ago, so the process may already be underway as we speak. i’ve said numerous times that the Cdn economy is /has been largely propped up by the freakshow housing market and should anything derail that, it would effectively be game over for… Read more »
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BoC policy statement basically re-written start to finish over the course of a few weeks…
https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/2018-12-05_7-07-04.jpg?itok=vyboMUHI

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Immigration fraud trial wraps up first day in Charlottetown court

Investigators allege 100s of immigrants used the Sherwood Motel as ‘address of convenience’

Ping Zhong and her brother Yi Zhong both face multiple charges of aiding or abetting misrepresentation under the federal Immigration and Refugee Protection Act — specifically, they’re accused of assisting clients of P.E.I.’s provincial nominee program (PNP) to provide false information about their residency in Canada.

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Laibach
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Laibach

Too bad, they are a cute, hard-working Chinese business couple. They had good intentions but didn’t exactly understand the rules over the allowed number of guests in a motel room due to language barriers.

Hyper-mega-Bull
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Hyper-mega-Bull

exactly. they are not muslim, they don’t have dark skin, they are short, they smile and say “oh… i didn’t know” when they get caught stealing vegetables from your farm or garden, committing fraud, or operating an illegal business so we should give them the benefit of the doubt.