Friday free-for-all! February 8th 2019

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It open topic time. What are you seeing out there? Post your news links, thoughts and anecdotes in the comments below and have an excellent weekend!

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bullwhip29
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whazzzzup
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China doesn’t even need to threaten to pull their students to scare us.

We’ll do all the work scaring ourselves for them.

Grow a backbone Canada!

Best place on meth
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What can we do to make these students/spies feel unwelcome here?

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

Well, you could waste another decade bleating online at an audience of literally a dozen people about how put out you are?

Best place on meth
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Your right, they have no shame and they couldn’t care less if they’re in a place where they’re disliked and not wanted.
You’re a perfect example of this kind behavior.

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

*You’re

But if you’re not a fan of that idea perhaps instead you could “accidentally” attend a few more supremacist rallies? You seemed to enjoy the last one you “accidentally” showed up at.

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I believe it was supposed to be an anti-immigration rally, not a supremacist rally, not that you would know the difference. Everyone to the right of AOC is a nazi to you. In any case it’s as irrelevant as “your” entire life has been because I don’t support either cause and I don’t attend rallies. But I did later get to see videos of the event and it turned out to be a supposed “anti-hate” rally by the most vicious and hateful people I have ever seen in this laid back city. The far left showed up in force to shout down, intimidate, name call, assault and threaten anyone who dared to speak up for border security and an end to the illegal migrants streaming across the border at the time, thanks to Turds open invitation. “You’re” the type who… Read more »
Bag it and tag it
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Bag it and tag it

Oh no! I’m so worried about UBC’s credit rating.

bullwhip29
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bullwhip29
Dave
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What are the odds the owner is overseas and doesn’t know it burned down and the realtor too stupid to notice?

bullwhip29
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bullwhip29
whazzzzup
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whazzzzup

We can’t deal with the problems being caused so our best option is to keep them out of the country in the first place.

bullwhip29
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bullwhip29

W5 investigates massive money laundering that has B.C. awash in illegal cash
https://www.theloop.ca/ctvnews/w5-investigates-massive-money-laundering-that-has-b-c-awash-in-illegal-cash/

bullwhip29
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bullwhip29

The Globe & Mail: The high price of Chinese money laundering in Canada
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-the-high-price-of-chinese-money-laundering-in-canada/

Laibach
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Until more people realize how much damage in BC has been done with all “Chinese Invasion” in the past 20 years and until some bold actions are taken this society and economy won’t get better. The price that will be paid for destroyed society and fucked up the economy (RE focus) won’t come anywhere close to what they actually spent or invested here. It was and still is all smoke and mirrors and playground for all kinds of scum and shenanigans. A big fist world casino where suddenly rich peasants and savages will satisfy their primal urges. Shame…

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Canada is for Canadians
Laibach
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Luckily they are all well educated, some speak Chinese, have contacts and “natural sense of business” hence their “very particular set of skills” will easily transition to other lucrative job-positions and industries.

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I have a feeling most of them will end up driving for illegal, racist ride sharing services.

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

Strange how those illegal drug dispensaries never bothered you.

Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

They’re preferable to street corner drug dealers.

Why are you idiotically comparing pot sales to taxis?

Canada is for Canadians
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Canada is for Canadians
Best place on meth
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These seizures should be happening by the thousands along with deportations back to the motherland.

SilentBob
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Notice the headline says “seeks to seize.” He was convicted in 2015, and I imagine this will drag through the courts for another five years before being dismissed on a technicality. I’ve said it before and and I’ll say it again: our justice system is in no way even remotely equipped to deal with the sort of criminality that’s been actively courted to set up shop here.

patriotz
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Regarding the criminal case, the article said the culprit has already been released on parole, so there is no question of his criminal conviction not standing.

Regarding the civil forfeiture, which is independent of the criminal process and does not in fact depend on a conviction, the case has only been brought to court this year. Given the standard for a criminal conviction is much higher than a civil forfeiture, I don’t think the government is likely to lose.

SilentBob
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SilentBob

I hope you’re right. Time will tell.

paulb
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BubbleTea
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Looks like the CNY rush just fizzled.

Shit It Down Already(Original)
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Anybody want to debate the fact the NDP are useless ? aka nothing has changed . Reported in the SUN was Eby not only re-iterating ICBC is a dumpster fire…its getting worse. Apparently, Eby gave the ambulance chasing lawyers till April 1st to file claims under the old grandfathered rules…with the predictable result of courts now getting clogged. Of course, the lawyers will fight the new rules. ICBC is nothing but an albatross to BC taxpayers..get rid of it. Money Laundering? = as old as the hills.. Vegas ( BTW funded by Mormon banks) primary existence was as a means to launder money. ..its a given that have casino?money laundering will occur !The investigation was compromised via leaking of someone’s ID?….WTF are they doing by creating a major case and risking this…why not break it down into smaller investigations ?… Read more »
Bag it and tag it
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Bag it and tag it

All political parties are useless. That said, David Eby is the best politician in this province and the Liberals are the worst party, so I will support the NDP for the foreseeable future.

Bag it and tag it
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China and India considered to be the 2 most racist countries on earth.
http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/least-racist-countries/
Nice that our government targets those two countries for immigration since they’re such a good match culturally.
Canada amongst the group of countries considered least racist.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2325502/Map-shows-worlds-racist-countries-answers-surprise-you.html

Ironic that every time the Chinese don’t get there way here, they claim racism.

patriotz
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I think it’s more a matter of who is more honest about their views. For example:

“Racist views are strikingly rare in the U.S., according to the survey, which claims that only 3.8 per cent of residents are reluctant to have a neighbour of another race.”

Clearly a lot more Americans than that don’t want to live next to someone of a different race, given the level of segregation in US cities.

Shit It Down Already(Original)
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Review Dr. E. Michael Jones ” Slaughter of Cities “.

The Suburbs were created to lure “Whites” out of Cities as Gov’ts lured Blacks from South into Northern Cities.
The aim was to diffuse urban voting blocks.

StupidityCheck
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StupidityCheck

White flight had more to do with crime rates. Violent crimes peaked in the early 90s and have been dropping ever since. Now people are moving back into cities.

Shit It Down Already(Original)
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Shit It Down Already(Original)

True….one strategy used by Gov’ts was Section 8 housing and Eminent Domain. Martin Luther King was simply an agent provocateur to increase White versus Black tensions.

Black women were manipulated whereby it was their economic advantage(aka welfare) to have numerous children with different partners as opposed to stable family.

Section 8 housing was forced onto neighbourhoods…..then white flight.

Now, the powers that be wish to herd us back into cities….

StupidityCheck
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StupidityCheck

Barrack. Obama.

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Americas first half white president?

What about him?

Shit It Down Already(Original)
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Shit It Down Already(Original)

It’s racist to talk about Obama and his wife Michael…

YVR
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YVR

“the level of segregation in US cities”

The level of segregation is based on incomes and net worth. Wealthy black people live in the same neighborhoods as wealthy white people. Maxine Waters lives in a $5 million house in LAs Hancock Park which is 95% white. Yet she governs the poorest part of LA. The reason black people are poor is because that is exactly where the democrats want them. All the poorest US cities with the highest crime rates and black populations have been governed by democrats for decades. Keeping black people poor keeps them voting democrat.

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“The level of segregation is based on incomes and net worth”…correlation vs causation. It’s far more abut culture than race. Most wealthy blacks are wealthy because they either embraced mainstream culture or they were raised in it. When growing up, they had a few white friends. More often than not, blacks don’t want to leave the ‘ghetto’ because the culture in the ghetto is what they are comfortable with and that’s where they feel like they belong. Most of them could move to mixed neighbourhoods with similar costs, but they don’t feel comfortable outside of the culture they were raised in. Anywhere you go in the world, people want to be around other people that are a match to themselves culturally. In the ghetto, no kids strive for success in the mainstream culture, they strive for success of the ghetto… Read more »
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The progressive liberal movement, which has an extreme anti-male, anti-white bias, is really just an excuse generating machine so that blacks can feel better about themselves for being less successful on avg than whites and other minorities…so they blame it on the whites for systemic racism when in reality the reason is a disproportionate amount of blacks raised outside of mainstream culture and a lack of desire to integrate into mainstream culture. And women earn less than men for one main reason, that men feel far more internal pressure to earn more money than women. Most women won’t date guys that earn less than them. Most women want their man to be able to support a family on his salary alone. Most women expect the man to pay for most things…so the men are more willing to do work they… Read more »
YVR
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“More often than not, blacks don’t want to leave the ‘ghetto’”

The ones than have money do. Just look at where the wealthy blacks live. I ain’t the ghetto.

https://www.businessinsider.com/lebron-james-los-angeles-brentwood-home-photos-2017-12

Bag it and tag it
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Bag it and tag it

I am talking about your single mom that opts not to leave the ghetto in order to give their kids a better chance, even if they can afford to live in a slightly better mixed neighbourhood with better schools…they stay because the ghetto is their comfort zone and not necessarily because they can’t afford to leave. They like it there because that’s where all their friends and family are and that’s the culture they grew up with.
If you’re wealthy, of course you’re not going to continue living in the ghetto.
But what blacks that grew up in the ghetto are wealthy? Some athletes and musicians yes, but by they time they got wealthy they had long broke free of the cultural comfort zone they had in the ghetto.

patriotz
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“Keeping black people poor keeps them voting democrat.”

Looks like the Republicans have caught on, since keeping white people poor keeps them voting Republican.

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Bringing back manufacturing jobs doesn’t keep white people poor.

It’s the companies who shipped those jobs to china that made them poor.

StupidityCheck
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StupidityCheck

It’s the conservative, pro-rich, union-busting, off-shoring, tax cutters that did it. Bring back the liberal 50s and 60s when the average person was MUCH better off!

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Your beloved Democrat party is just as complicit in the off shoring of jobs.

I hope you’re not dumb enough to think that one party is better than the other.

The 50’s was a very conservative decade.

StupidityCheck
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StupidityCheck

Union membership was high in the 50s, and the top tax rate was 90%.

Between 1933 and 1981, democrats controlled both houses of Congress in all but 4 years.

Very conservative? This is almost as ignorant as your false flag comment.

P.S. It’s “democratic” party.

Best place on meth
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Who cares if it’s democrat or democratic.

It’s communist now.

StupidityCheck
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StupidityCheck

You really need to look up the definition of communism. Going back to the policies of the 1950s is not even close.

Best place on meth
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Government control of the economy via “green new deal”.

Redistributing income.

Dems are rapidly hurtling towards communism.

conservative
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“Bring back the 50’s and 60’s”

Yeah that is exactly what the MAGA movement is
all about.BTW it was sex predator clinton who
signed NAFTA. Remember Ross Perot and the
warning of the giant sucking sound like a vaccum sucking all
those factory jobs to mexico if NAFTA was put through?

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Perot would have made a great president, but he had no chance as an independent and ironically it was his run that put the piece of shit Clinton into office.

He defeated Bush Sr., who was also horrid.

Kind of like choosing between Obama and McCain, or Obama and Romney.

Douche vs. Turd Sandwich.

StupidityCheck
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StupidityCheck

What made Clinton a piece of shit? Strong economy? Solid wage growth? Budget surplus? No wars? If it’s the sex stuff, you’ll have to explain your attitude about Hush Money Don.

Best place on meth
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No wars? Are you joking?

Serbia, Haiti, Somalia, what do you call those?

Strong economy was thanks to the tech boom, not Bill.

Surplus was a myth, Clinton raided trust funds to make the budget look balanced much like Christy raided ICBC. In fact, federal debt continued to climb every year.

The sex stuff? I don’t really care what people do in their private lives. Just don’t do it at the office that’s funded by taxpayers. That’s a lowlife move.

The worst thing was Slick Willy repealing Glass-Steagall, which let the bankers run wild. Taking campaign donations from the chinese was also scummy.

StupidityCheck
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StupidityCheck

Don’t have time to correct all your mistakes, so I’ll just leave this here:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/fredgraph.png?g=mVMf

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Don’t have time = too lazy and proven wrong.

https://www.thebalance.com/national-debt-by-year-compared-to-gdp-and-major-events-3306287

Total federal debt:

1993 – 4.411 trillion

2001 – 5.807 trillion

Shell games, and you’re dumb enough to fall for it.

StupidityCheck
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StupidityCheck

My God, you don’t even understand how to look at debt?! That hole you’re digging just keeps getting deeper!

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/GFDEGDQ188S

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You’re shifting the goalposts, weasel.

I shot down your “budget surpluses” myth so now you move on to another metric entirely and try to claim victory.

You’re so fucking stupid you probably think the Democrat party has always been liberal.

You did, didn’t you?

StupidityCheck
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StupidityCheck

Who moved goalposts from budget surplus to national debt? You did. I’m done with you.

Best place on meth
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The national debt is an aggregate of deficits.

You claimed annual surpluses which is bullshit because the total debt proves otherwise.

Run along now, you’ve been beaten.

StupidityCheck
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StupidityCheck

The MAGA movement is about scapegoating Brown people while the rich continue to screw the average person. The unemployment rate is low, and GDP is doing fine. Outsourcing isn’t the problem — income/wealth inequality is.

YVR
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YVR

The MAGA movement is about Making America Great Again. You just stated how great America use to be in the 50s and 60s so it seems you agree MAGA is good. Your far left counterparts have already stated America was never great and they want to make it like Venezuela.

Bag it and tag it
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Bag it and tag it

Your sounding like yet another victim of the progressive liberal movement.

Bag it and tag it
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Bag it and tag it

As I mentioned below, it’s about culture not race, most of the time. For example, most white americans would rather live beside a black doctor that talks and dresses the same as them, than a white kid that talks and dresses like a gang member.

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

Bingo. See how the losers here squirm when faced with the undeniable reality that they’re racist little pricks. They’ll say just about anything in their pathetic attempts to avoid wearing that well-deserved label.

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First of all, the opinion that patriotz gave was way off the mark. It’s not about avoiding living next to a particular race.

Secondly, your rant is fucking looney tunes. Absolutely senseless, but par for the course for a college-indoctrinated race-baiter.

conservative
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I bet you can’t go 1 day without calling someone a
racist little prick. The hate and victim mentality
you possess has destroyed your ability to reason
and be a normal person.

YVR
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YVR

1 day? He cant go an hour without blaming something on racism. It is his sole excuse for his failure in life. Once he figures out it is not about his race he may actually make something of himself.

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

Dumbass, I’m not blaming anything on racism – that’s just an another example of your squirming. I’m merely calling out the sick opinions of those on a website which claims to be about real estate but has actually turned into an apparent safe haven for vicious little shits like you. Use or support the use of racial slurs and you’re a racist. It’s really that simple.

The difference between you and I is that I’d happily voice my opinions in public.

YVR
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YVR

Nice diversion. There you go again. Shrieking racism. Back on topic of your neighbors hating you: “The difference between you and I is that I’d happily voice my opinions in public.” Hint you shrieking racism at everyone and everything may have something to do with people not liking you.

YVR
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YVR

SIDA the reason your neighbours hate you has nothing to do with your race. It is about the way you act. You are a complete tool and have no social skills. Change that and people may actually start to like you a little bit.

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

Says the clown posting on a Saturday night…

Laibach
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Laibach

Why matters when people post? What’s a big deal about it, is it Saturday evening or Tuesday morning? Some might even post when hitting nightclubs while taking dump there and others between dinner and desert with the whole extended family around. Making conclusions about ones social life based on posting time is quite retarted.

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That’s the attitude of the far left, they think they have the right to tell people how they should live their lives.

They even coerce governments to force people to conform to their views and harass employers to fire people who’s opinions they don’t like.

The cultural revolution here is in full swing.

YVR
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YVR

Like I said. No social skills. You sound like you are in grade 8.

Shit It Down Already(Original)
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Shit It Down Already(Original)

Re immigration consultant and civil forfeiture.

W5 had a recent story on this….and it involved many people and millions of $$$.

Have to admit, Gov’t showed a lot of backbone..even if the case was slam dunk.
Perhaps their aim is to show this head on a platter as warning…

PS I wonder how the investigations on pre-sale flips and assignments are going ?

Shit It Down Already(Original)
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BTW…

Noted a while back that strata in Richmond ( @ Garden City and Cook Rd ) was FOR SALE….they only needed a quorom of 80% to approve en bloc sale.

It was SOLD….and owners have moved on.

NOW?

“For Rent” signs have appeared..my guess is the buyer paid peak priced but to move forward is not a good move at this time.

Shit It Down Already(Original)
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Shit It Down Already(Original)

Re Speaker Plecas….

Appears he is subject of a recall initiative…hmmmm…….as well as he is just slightly short of a MLA pension…
Plecas’s targets are now starting their own reciprocal pissing match.

IMHO….Plecas and Weaver are standing in way of true accountability…NDP has zero mandate.

kabloona
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“Biggest Vancouver home price fall since 2013 is just tip of iceberg”

https://www.thestar.com/business/2019/02/04/biggest-vancouver-home-price-fall-since-2013-is-just-tip-of-iceberg.html

“Vancouver began the year with benchmark home prices falling the most in almost six years, according to the local real estate board. That may be just the tip of the iceberg.

Metro Vancouver’s composite home price, including houses, condominiums and townhouses, fell 4.5 per cent in January from a year earlier to $1.02 million ($780,000 U.S.), the biggest decline since May 2013 and down about 8 per cent from the June 2018 peak, according to the Real Estate Board of Greater Vancouver.”

Dave
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Just the tip… that’s what Xi said.

SilentBob
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SilentBob

I see what you did there and I approve.

Oracle
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FFS people. Stay on topic. This blog has descended into a USA history lesson

What’s the prediction for total inventory for Monday night? March 1st? April 1st?

StupidityCheck
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StupidityCheck

Can’t wait to hear future inventory wild guesses!

FWIW, Canadian policy mostly follows the US. The same economic mistakes the US made are happening here.

I also think global wealth inequality plays a big role in the VanRE disaster.

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Shit It Down Already(Original)
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Shit It Down Already(Original)

INVENTORY GUESSES ?

I think realtors are advising clients not to list…as the market is in serious correction…even if it may cost realtors commission…that’s how bad it is.

Otherwise, REAL inventory would explode….but then again..many sellers likely can’t hold out much longer.

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Shit It Down Already(Original)
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Shit It Down Already(Original)

Interesting….

Only candidate that makes any sense is the young WHITE gal…
The other candidates are …..gee…2 Asian males and a South Asian male.. WTF are the odds except for tokenism meets desperation.

Jagmeet seems like a decent guy…but lets be blunt..the NDP made a bad move with their blatantly token choice.

Best place on meth
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Jag comes across as dumb.

The other 2 potted plants were equally inspiring.

Laibach
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Laibach

“If you can’t get Canadians to take on higher mortgage payments because they already have the G7’s highest debt burden and are beginning to freak out about what they owe, well, maybe you can get them to take on debt for longer instead.
In other words, affordability would worsen still, even as Canadians are saddled with more debt.

It takes some serious verbal acrobatics to sell this policy.”

https://m.huffingtonpost.ca/2019/02/09/mortgage-stress-test-amortizations_a_23665668/?ec_carp=636400431295870606

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“Prominent voices among realtors and mortgage brokers have joined with economists at some of the country’s largest banks (i.e. mortgage lenders) to call on Ottawa to revisit the mortgage stress test.”

These people aren’t getting commissions anymore so they’re screaming at Ottawa to subsidize them. Also, the vast majority are likely home owners and are terrified as they watch their equity disappear.

These parasites should STFU and get real jobs.

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4715 Rutland rd. west van sold 2.025 ass 2.783 27% under ass.

YVR
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YVR

2017 assessed was $3,279,000. That is now just over 38% off 2017 assessed. A place like this could easily hit $1,000,000 in the next 2 years which would put the correction at 70%.

DaMann
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DaMann

Damn that’s a beautiful thing. So was 2017 the peak and not 2018 as being reported or does the peak depend on the price segment.?High high end started correcting 1-1.5 years ago so I guess it was price dependent depending on where the peak was?

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YVR
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YVR

I think peak for the high end and houses like this was July 2016 right before the foreign buyers tax. This place would probably have went for as high as $3.5 million in June 2016. Places under $1 million peaked in mid 2018.

Shit It Down Already(Original)
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Shit It Down Already(Original)

Less alimony for West Van trophy wives…

eastender
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eastender
January numbers for selected Vancouver markets. The number of sales may not 100% match official REBGV numbers as I may have missed some. Sale prices, asking prices and assessment values for each sale analyzed are more or less reliable. Quick observations 1. Median price down on all markets. Avg price up in West Van SFH and Richmond APT: more sales in the expensive segment this year. 2. In all markets, apartments demonstrated exceptional performance in January 2018: sale prices were 10% above assessment, 25-45% above previous year assessment. In January 2019 – not so much: on average, apartments were sold 1-10% below assessment. 3. West Van homes were sold 9% below assessment in January 2019 (21% below previous assessment) and at assessment in January 2018 (2.62% below previous assessment). If what we are witnessing is a start of a massive… Read more »
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bullwhip29

RCMP arrest 15 in alleged international money laundering scheme
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/rcmp-arrest-15-in-alleged-international-money-laundering-scheme-1.4291684

>>> small potatoes, not chinese. i hope people do not see this headline and get fooled into thinking the authorities are making any meaningful headway

DragonSeed
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And they won’t.

East Asians IQ 105
Europeans IQ 97

You’re obsolete.

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

Hi Oracle!

Dave
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https://medium.com/incerto/iq-is-largely-a-pseudoscientific-swindle-f131c101ba39

A good debunking of IQ…

What good is IQ if the top 25% of janitors score higher than the bottom 25% of college professors?

The magnitude of the Flynn Effect should be a major red flag to anybody who thinks IQ has meaning.

bullwhip29
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in case anyone missed the CTV W5 double feature over the weekend…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMlMamc05wE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddsGyJ-7Zw0

Canada is for Canadians
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Canada is for Canadians

Maybe GT will watch this. He seems to think money laundering in the billions of dollars is not a problem…

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Sales of high-priced homes in P.E.I. most affected by closure of PNP’s entrepreneur stream:
https://www.theguardian.pe.ca/news/local/sales-of-high-priced-homes-in-pei-most-affected-by-closure-of-pnps-entrepreneur-stream-275503/

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franko
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Good to see that not everyone is scared to provoke the dragon.