Friday free-for-all! August 9th 2019

Its the end of another week and that means its time for another Friday free-for-all!

Here are a few recent links to kick off the chat:

house prices continue to edge lower

capital controls don’t work

Gov created housing crisis

Richmond MP under investigation

life savings lost in rent to own deal

So what are you seeing out there? Post your news links, thoughts and anecdotes in the comments below and have an excellent weekend!

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Hyper-mega-Bull
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Hyper-mega-Bull

Do bears still think the HPI is rigged? Or is it only rigged when it’s proving them wrong?

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troll ….

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

Is the HPI accurate or not? It’s a pretty straightforward question. Of course if you believe that its accuracy has changed over time feel free to say so.

patriotz
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“Is the HPI accurate or not?”

That’s not really the right question, since it’s the price of a hypothetical property. It’s not measuring something that actually exists. The right question is does it track an index such as Teranet which uses an entirely different methodology, The answer appears to be that it does reasonably well.

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Newborn calf ‘brutally killed’ and stolen from Langley farm

https://www.citynews1130.com/2019/08/08/b-c-mounties-search-for-pair-in-bloody-arrow-death-of-dairy-calf/

footage shows a man and a woman driving onto their property after dark in a luxury SUV.

“a luxury SUV” that’s a good clue right there …

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

You’re such a piece of shit.

Take a look around – everybody has a luxury SUV these days.

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Huh? What brings on your rant this time ? Please explain so we can all learn …

bullwhip29
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>>> maybe you should read the article more carefully?

“Early in the morning on Aug 1st, two people trespassed onto our property and brutally killed the 5 day old calf on the left of the first photo. They then loaded the calf into what the RCMP believe to be a high end SUV, possibly a Mercedes or BMW and drove off. From the video they are well dressed and appear to both be of Asian descent, one male and one female…”

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Shut It Down Already (original)

1. Nobody reads your links.
2. “Asian descent” covers more than half the population of the planet.
3. The actions of these people are not representative of every individual of the same ethnicity.
4. Statement 3 remains true no matter how many links your toxic personality compels you to post.

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You really do get triggered easily don’t you ?

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Guilty as charged – I cannot stand dumbfuck racists.

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Bag it and tag it

SIDA with anger management issues is very bearish for the market

jwj
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Asian decent means east Asian. So we’ve narrowed the search to less than half of the people on the planet. Maybe we can narrow down the search more by assuming it was done by someone in the Vancouver area and not some one in … Say… Tokyo.

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Bag it and tag it

That’s because you live in Richmond

bullwhip29
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bullwhip29

On a list of Canada’s best places to live, Vancouver isn’t even in the top 100
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/on-a-list-of-canada-s-best-places-to-live-vancouver-isn-t-even-in-the-top-100-1.4543026

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But we keep hearing from some people that Vancouver is the “Best Place on Earth” (even the BC Liberals slogan said that) and “everybody wants to live here”.

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I heard they’ve been talking about changing it to “A Place on Earth”

Doomcouver
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Doomcouver

I like it. But where will Vancouverites get their false sense of superiority?

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This is far more accurate than those surveys that put Vancouver #3 in the world, the ones that are either geared towards companies relocating executives or the ones that don’t bother to take cost of living into account.

Not that we shouldn’t be proud to be the #112th best city in Canada to live in.

Doomcouver
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If you have $5 million and don’t mind stepping over homeless people everywhere then I guess Vancouver is a pretty good city…

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Another man sentenced in massive B.C. immigration fraud case
This latest development means nine people have now been sentenced for their role in the single largest passport scam in B.C.
https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/another-man-sentenced-in-massive-b-c-immigration-fraud-case

The Canada Border Services Agency and the Canada Revenue Agency announced Friday that Xiao Feng “Heki” He has been sentenced to 20 months in jail after pleading guilty to fraud charges for his role in the estimated $10 million New Can Consultants and Welling International Investments passport scam that took place over seven years

Others sentenced include
(Fanny) Ma, Ming Kun (Makkie) Wu, Wen (Vivian) Jiang, Xun (Sunny) Wang, Tian “Gary” Chen, Xiao Ben “Ben” Chu, Che Fang and Zheng Wen Ye

Laibach
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Laibach

Strange, fucking Norwegians, all of them.

Hyper-mega-Bull
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Hyper-mega-Bull

out in 10.

Simple Solution
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Simple Solution

“deuce less”….

Out in 6 months… anything less than 2 years gets you out with an ankle bracelet for the balance of the time.

bullwhip29
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B.C. Realtors still not allowed to openly publish home sale prices

https://www.vancourier.com/real-estate/b-c-realtors-still-not-allowed-to-openly-publish-home-sale-prices-1.23417786

“Barbisan said a key issue is striking a balance between the public’s right to know and right of an individual to privacy.”

This “professional” may not realize that a sale price is publicly available online via BC Assessment after the fact, or via a search at Land Titles so there’s not so much “individual privacy” there.

Hyper-mega-Bull
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Hyper-mega-Bull

there will be a significant influx of foreign students and ‘Canadian’ students from HK into local public schools as HK parents send their kids to vancouver/richmond/burnaby/coquitlam/etc out of fear.

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I first saw BC from the seat of a road survey vehicle called ARAN, short for automatic road analyzer, one of my employers early version, built in the early 1980s. I drove this thing towing a trailer, from Ontario, 1994. The mechanism in the trailer would create a centrifugal force on the pavement, measured by geo-phones attached to the trailer hitch.

I drove around just about every street in Surrey. Returned to Ontario where my company issued a monumental report on road bed conditions.

So, perhaps, why don’t people who come to BC, come to work first, eh?

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Vancouver needs a huge increase in non-market housing to help with affordability, experts say:

If you’re one of the few wealthy renters, you’re at an advantage, because Vancouver has an 8.7-per-cent vacancy rate. That’s the situation if you can afford to pay more than $3,750 a month.

If you’re looking for a unit in the $2,000 to $3,749 range, there is a lower vacancy rate of 1.8 per cent. And if you’re in the much more affordable $750 to $1,249 range, there’s only 0.5-per-cent vacancy rate, according to the city’s Housing Vancouver Annual Progress Report and Data Book 2019.

“It seems to be a case of abundance for those seeking high-end rentals in the city of Vancouver, but bare shelves for those renters of lesser financial means,” says Andy Yan, director of the city program for Simon Fraser University.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/real-estate/vancouver/article-vancouver-needs-a-huge-increase-in-non-market-housing-to-help-with/

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A vacancy rate exceeding 3% usual leads to lower prices, at least throughout the rental market as a whole. If this relationship applies uniformly across all large subsets the of the market then an 8.7% rate implies falling rents within that range.

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But YVR keeps whining that the NDP haven’t done anything about rising rents, too dumb to realize rents have been free falling for some time now…but what would you expect from a Liberal voter.

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The vacancy rates at the lower end of the market suggest upwards pressure on rents.

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by lower end, you mean homeless shelters?

YVR
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By homeless shelter do you mean the various parks in the lower mainland? The NDPs plan is just allow people to sleep in the parks and pretend there isn’t a problem. We are in year 3 and it has been an epic fail for housing. Worse than ever under he NDP.

YVR
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CMHC data shows rents are up 15% since the election in the whole of Metro Vancouver and overall vacanvy rate is 1%. That is not falling. Show me your data.

This so called study is bogus by using rental price as a measure. Of course if someone asks too high of a rental price it will remain vacant. Here is an example of a vacant property in the over $3750 range.

$4500 / 1br – 655ft2 – Short-term fully furnished top floor renovated Gastown condo for rent (Gastown downtown Vancouver)

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/apa/d/vancouver-short-term-fully-furnished/6954522410.html

Selective Memory
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I see you’ve stopped posting the link to the CMHC data that you’re mis-representing.

YVR
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There you go. Rents up 15% since the election. What a disaster for the NDP. The biggest rent increase in 2 years in BC history.

https://www.cmhc-schl.gc.ca/en/data-and-research/publications-and-reports/rental-market-reports-major-centres

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Who cares about since the election…all that matters is that they’re falling now.

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Or we have a crash and many of the people supported by the real estate sector (realtors, construction, mortgage brokers, etc) decide to move away for greener pastures.

Selective Memory
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This is quite interesting. Think about those ranges: rentals under $1250 don’t really exist in Vancouver any more, unless you’ve occupied a unit for many years, or are talking about a shared bedroom in a house with roommates.

The range of 2,000 to 3750 basically captures all the 2 BR rentals and lots of the 3BRs that are currently on the rental market. At 1.8% the vacancy in this sector is actually much better than we’ve been led to believe.

Above 3750 suggests a household income upwards of 150,000, which leaves out most renters, so who cares.

Not mentioned in the article, but vacancy must be quite low in the 1250-2000 segment (bachelors and 1 BRs) in order to average out to a vacancy rate of 1.0

YVR
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So you are saying it is a good thing that under he NDP there are now few rentals under $2000? And under the NDP incomes can’t support a rent of over $3750. Sounds like a disaster to me.

Selective Memory
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Selective Memory

Strawman blah blah.

I made no mention of the NDP. But since you bring it up, of course the low vacancy rate predates the NDP, was worse under the last years of the BC Liberals, and trending in the wrong direction.

If you have some data showing incomes ar down under the NDP, please feel free to post it.

YVR
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YVR

You made made statements. Don’t try to back track and ask me for a link. Bottom line the rental situation is a disaster right now under the NDP which promised to fix it.

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patriotz
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Surrey, B.C., condo with mountain views sells for $12,000 under asking

3511-13750 100th Avenue, Surrey, B.C. Asking price: $369,963. Selling price: $357,000

Not mentioned in article: 2019 assessment as of July 1, 2018: $424,000. Every 2019 sale in this building has been under assessment.

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Is it true Oracle?

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Bag it and tag it

Oracle’s taking a mental health day. Poor guy’s sawdust house dropped $10,000 over the past year (-45%)

Simple Solution
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Simple Solution

cash exchanged offshore?

YVR
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YVR

If cash was exchanged it was giving it back to the fool who paid $357,000 for it. What a disaster that dumpy old rental buildings in Whalley are selling that high.

YVR
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In the heart of Whalley. An old rental building. These places were selling for about $150k a few years ago. Now a worse area with higher crime rates, rampant drug use and homelessness outside your door on the streets. Is $357,000 supposed to be a success?

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“The Future of the City Is Childless”, The Atlantic

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/07/where-have-all-the-children-gone/594133/

“Cities have effectively traded away their children, swapping capital for kids. ”

“The modern American city is not a microcosm of life but a microslice of it. It’s becoming an Epcot theme park for childless affluence, where the rich can act like kids without having to actually see any”

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Pets, especially dogs, are the new children of the childless city dweller …

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Pets, esp. furry mammal, and the coveted ‘rescue’ dog are home ownership status symbols, disguised as substitute children, or more correctly, master/slave. I’d give the astrology, but maybe not easy for the crowd here to integrate.

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Yeah, people really get dogs for status. Who needs a luxury SUV when you can adapt a dog from the SPCA and be worshipped by the masses.

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https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/history/21h-301-the-ancient-world-greece-fall-2004/assignments/hesiod.pdf

“some of (Hesiod’s)advice is simply common sense, both now and back then. One particular example is the one about what to wear on your feet and how to cover your head in the cold (Works and Days 540-5) Later on, the poet advices the worker to work before the dawn, in order to avoid the morning rain or the hot sun, and to have a dog in order to protect his house.”

Before we go too deep down the pet hole, dogs and real estate prices are positively correlated.

JT sucks
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JT sucks

Meanwhile, shithole countries are breeding like flies, all striving to topple our gates.

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Best place on meth

It seems that dogs outnumber children 10 to 1 in Vancouver.

At this rate the dogs will take over in 50 years and Planet of the Dogs will become a reality.

Even after they overthrow us and become our masters, they’ll STILL make us pick up their shit.

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The Norwegians will simply increase the number of dog meat festivals to combat the problem.

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Laibach
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Oracle?

Growing number of newcomers, refugees ending up homeless in Canada: studies

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/homeless-newcomers-refugees-canada-studies-1.5242426

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This is squarely on Trudope for opening the refugee & immigration floodgates and inviting the world to come here without any plan on how to house them. He just wants to look good to his bleeding-heart base and the UN.

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Prediction: in just two weeks, Justin will have said and done something that increases his popularity 5%.

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He’s changing his pronoun to ‘they’?

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Refugees in 2015, Syrians now citizens in time for 2019 federal election

https://www.citynews1130.com/2019/08/10/refugees-in-2015-syrians-now-citizens-in-time-for-2019-federal-election/

“Immediately bringing over 25,000 Syrian refugees was a key foreign policy promise the Liberals made in the last election”

And one guess who these “refugees” will vote for.
Trudope is hellbent on destroying Canada for his own political gains… meanwhile we now have all these “refugees” to deal with.

Shut It Down Already (original)
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The person in the article only applied for citizenship in March, so it’s unlikely they’ll be able to vote in the election. The article states clearly how many have become citizens, however, and it’s far from 25,000. The subject of the article also opened a business which employs 3 people. I’d wager they contribute more to Canada than you ever did.

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Statistics Canada numbers showing almost 60,000 being resettled as of this past February.

So we are now up to 60K and we have to house these people and feed them etc. because most of them can’t work and they don’t have any employment skills or can even speak English. We all pay dearly for this “feel good” program of Trudope’s.

I will ignore your ignorant insults because I am the bigger person.

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Moving the goalposts, I see. Boring.

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I was also quoting the article.

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No, you were making shit up. Again.

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Read it again. Over and out.

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I did – and I totally missed the bit which said “we have to house these people and feed them etc. because most of them can’t work and they don’t have any employment skills or can even speak English. ”

That’s you making shit up. Again.

But what else should we expect from the underachiever who reads neo-Nazi websites?

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These people were well vetted and are genuine refugees, unlike the 10’s of 1000’s of fake refugees that came pouring over the Quebec border illegally thanks to our idiot PM shouting out loud that they’re all invited.

Trump isn’t the only one that posts moronic tweets.

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“I think Cullen would be doing well if he provides a framework and major fillip for a national discussion about the need for a corporate registry and public land ownership registries to combat money-laundering.“

fillip, in the dictionary, is when you flick something with your finger, like a marble, sending it on a trajectory, speed, and rotation. Mulgrew is saying Cullen’s one man show is attempting a Lorentz effect.

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southseacompany “The Future of the City Is Childless”, The Atlantic ====================================== Yep..the future is more and more cat ladies… Women got screwed big time swallowing oligarchs kool aid buying into feminism and equal rights etc. The goal was to get women into the work force so they too could be taxed…effectively flooding the job market and driving wages down. Becoming career focussed they either stayed single or delayed motherhood..to the point they either left it too late and became infertile or had their token one or two children ( below population replacement rate ) and attend their children’s graduation when they are senior citizens. Of course…the flip side of the oligarchs plan is ” WE NEED MORE IMMIGRATION DUE TO LOW BIRTH RATE.”….. so these foreign locusts can turn Canada into another colony of their nation of origin. Add in… Read more »
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Good points Shit It Downer.
This might explain why we have such an AIRHEAD for a PM
scientificamarican.com/article/children-with-older-dads-at-greater-mental-illness-risk

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JT sucks

scientificamerican.com/article/children-with-older-dads-at-greater-mental-illness-risk

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NDP and speed limits… If nothing else……. NDP and other Libtards modus operandi is to create knee jerk demonization of a given issue and cater to their equally ignorant support base. Not much depth to their programs which are thinly veiled class warfare. Yeah sure….we don’t want people driving recklessly. However…there is a big difference between “speeding” and driving dangerously. Do the majority of drivers exceed the posted speed limit ?..of course they do. Is driving say 5-10 km/h over the posted limit dangerous ? What will happen is the process will become a ca$h cow for NDP and also local gov’ts will want their cut. What has occurred elsewhere is the accepted speed is ratcheted lower to increase revenue. When the photo radar was still in place ..I watched one set up on Granville Street. Judging by a flashing… Read more »
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In case you guys have any illusion of the HK “peaceful demonstration” which BPOM is so fond of, they are thugs. In this video (fast track to 12:21), they attacked and harassed an old taxi driver who was trying to make a living, because he ignored their road blocks and was driving “too fast”. Shame on them!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwyNL_PKHjQ

Laibach
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Shame on them but I bet you must be a mainlander who came in Canada, bought a condo or townhouse and think “multiculturalism” is a “cool stuff”.

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I pay above median income tax and enjoy my life. You got a problem with that?

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‘The world doesn’t want enough of your product’: Chip Wilson, artists, spar over renovictions

https://globalnews.ca/news/5751613/chip-wilson-renoviction-protest/

“Protesters say Wilson’s development company, Lowtide Properties, has bought up land in the city’s northeast and handed renoviction notices to no less than 18 arts and culture organizations.”

This guy doesn’t have enough money yet so he is now on a seek and destroy mission in East Van. He is worse than a Chineeze.

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Yeah…what an asshole Wilson is..
Builds an over the top home to show off…then goes attacks commercial areas knowing full well he will disrupt the lives and futures of hard working average people.

How much is ever enough for these pricks?
………..why doesn’t he buy up areas and try to help preserve and protect these areas from developers ?

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But he’s a Real Canadian, eh!

YVR
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Yup, and he has said repeatedly he is buying Vancouver real estate to cash in on the demand from China. So in the root cause of fools like him is the locust.

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Foreign interference, no one mentions it in Canada.
https://youtu.be/7T_Lu1S0sII

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Driver spotted on beach walking path

https://www.citynews1130.com/video/2019/08/10/driver-spotted-on-beach-walking-path/

Is this the usual suspects? Not driving a “luxury SUV” but still …

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In Steveston today..

Saw a black sedan with TAXI on the doors and Chinese text underneath “TAXI”….WTF is this?…blatant in your face law breaking ?

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Not like the Richmond RCMP are going to do anything about it.

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Ride sharing came early to Richmond.

Such entrepreneurs, those people. Never ones to let the law stand in their way of making a buck.

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A little like all the weed stores which opened up a few years ago, then. You know, the ones which catered to medical uses revealing how sick the young adults in the city really are.

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They suffered from anxiety issues related to not being able to afford a condo …

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Ross Kay made many good points …

UBC attracting increasing numbers of foreign students reduces the available room rentals by thousands,thus impacting locals. The inference is UBC should be obliged to provide rooms for these students and not continue getting a free lunch by the general public who get marginalized by this UBC cash cow.
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Hilliard Macbeth made good points re: condos….many default landlords coming..which will lower average rents.

Many will have bought pre-sale condos…prices will have dropped…can’t afford to sell at a loss…hence be forced to rent to generate revenue.
aka Perfect SHITstorm coming.

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Soaring House Prices Could Return As Interest Rates Head To Zero: BMO

“When you’re looking at a market that becomes driven by wealth … there isn’t necessarily a limit to house prices.”

https://m.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/mortgage-rates-canada_ca_5d4f3cebe4b0fd2733f13dca

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Watch the solds this week. if you see a 200+ day, look out.

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Policy makers seem to have more of a handle on the price issue now than they had in the past, so I’m thinking that even IF interest rates do go much lower that the checks and balances that are in place should keep prices in check. Also. policymakers seem more ready and able to increase measures to keep house prices in check.

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NDP now in power for 3 complete summers.

1 more summer before election.

I don’t think they will last as Greens will have to make a stand or else they are finished. Maybe a winter election coming up.

Oh I meant to ask the NDP minions. Has anyone been sent to jail from the last 16 years of liberal rule? The casinos? Money launderers?

Has anyone even been charged? Hahahaha

Told you dimwits so.

And when’s that housing report coming out? Conveniently never cause an election will be called prior to it. Hahaha

Nice NDP delay tactics. Study study study

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I don’t think it’s likely to last either. The Greens will be opportunistic because you can’t run an election by saying we want to be a minority government partner again. The idiots literally are going into the next election having gotten nothing from the NDP. Weaver bet it all on the Referendum. That’s all he wanted. And he lost. So they need to run on something and right now there is no something. So they’ll have to manufacture an issue to inspire their base. Plecas is a big problem too. He’s a narcissist and has bad judgement. He’ll surely do something stupid again soon. Wilkinson is a blessing for Horgan. My biggest worry if I was Horgan is the Liberals replacing him. Horgan’s other problem is that the NDP have internal divisions and a number of their MLAs are extremists.… Read more »
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People overall seem pretty happy with the NDP; we don’t hear of any rumblings in the news or elsewhere about their performance to date. My prediction is they will win a majority in the next election. The BC Libs are still in disarray and have that heavy taint of corruption still hanging over them and Wilkinson is a cold fish that no can warm up to..

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Re NDP? Hard to say.. Are ( enough ) people disenchanted with NDP ?…I don’t sense it either. Did Weaver gain anything by allying with NDP except the referendum attempt.? IMHO the Greens will go down to one seat…their wins were an anomaly…Weavers fellow Greenies won on local issues as protest vote. I also think there will be backlash against all Greens for siding with NDP….or will NDP cut a deal with Greens to not field competing candidates…..I doubt it. Libs problem will be the scams under their watch that will continue to be in media and under investigation…the casino money laundering, the land sales, etc… Problem with NDP is another win would embolden them to engage in more SJW agendas and/or capitulate to demands of their extremist wing.,,they are not known for their economic policies. By then they will… Read more »
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Then if we are to assume your analysis is correct, then the Greens will call an election sooner rather than later. They’ve got the next 10 months to differentiate themselves. To risky to leave it months before the original election date.

And I don’t see a Horgan majority. People who voted Liberal last election will still vote for them regardless of what your gut feeling is telling you.

Too many bungled issues. Wait until the icbc bill come in after next month and the upcoming bungled ridesharing start.

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That’s the point though, the public doesn’t really see any “bungled issues” except for maybe ICBC but the Liberals can be blamed for that one too, otherwise the NDP seem to be riding on a magic carpet right now. People I know still blame the BC Liberals for everything.

Oracle
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Fair enough. But I’m surrounded by people who see through the NDP bs.

We will see if naive people truly rule the day next election.

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“People I know still blame the BC Liberals for everything.”

But you hang out with losers who are probably life time NDP voters. The swing voter is what counts. The swing voter went with the NDP or Greens because of housing prices and rents. With both of those worse off now there is no way they give the NDP another shot. They have failed at everything they promised.

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I don’t think NDP can get a majority anymore. He’s alienated some of the people in the valley that voted for him last election.

Housing.

Hasn’t done Fuck all especially when rents in those ridings continues to rise and prices are still up since the election.

Do I want the Liberals? Hell no. But I do realize that NDP is not on your side either.

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Re Housing…. People will blame the Liberals for the money laundering which juiced the market to even greater levels of unaffordability….and conclude there is nothing the NDP can do to fix it….with the proviso the NDP’s various ” housing taxes ” was their thinly guised typical class warfare the NDP rank and file cheer on. As many RE analysts have stated..especially Ross Kay, the RE market was in correction mode before the NDP brought in their housing policies. aka NDP policies now impact the ,market further. Kay also stated that many SFH will have assessments below the $3 Million mark…reducing their property taxes..and condo owners will shoulder the shifted tax burden. Having personally experienced a few RE cycles, once the market turns, the negative momentum builds…people are..psychologically speaking… in fear mode, aka how low can it go…and it takes years… Read more »
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Yes I’d agree with this, I think we are in the 9th inning financially and are witnessing the final stages of an economy just before a total collapse and reset. When we have to have interest rates near zero to keep things alive it’s pretty much all over with.

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Over for who?

Not the wealthy or the landowners. Read a basic history textbook.

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okay, thanks dad…

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“I don’t think NDP can get a majority anymore”

They never could. They lost the popular vote and came in second on seats in the last election and the previous 4 elections.

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2 1/2 years on, and you’re still in denial. So many stages left to go…

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Denial of what? Can you point out which is not factual correct in: “They lost the popular vote and came in second on seats in the last election and the previous 4 elections.”

Right, you can’t. The truth hurts so you deny it. The NDP are 5 time losers. Fact.

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Coming from the moron who argues against such facts when they’re inconvenient to him.

What’s not factually correct in: “Trump lost the popular vote by the largest margin in history and went on to be the most unpopular president in living memory”.

No need to answer.

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Trump lost the popular vote because he didn’t waste one fucking second of his precious time campaigning in California, because it’s full of leftist retards like yourself who are not worth visiting under any circumstances,

And why do you keep whining about the popular vote, you idiot?

Still don’t know the rules of the game?

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Yes and the Canucks outshot the Bruins in the Stanley Cup final. Irrelevant. The final is not decided on shots just like the election is not decided on the popular vote. The left wing nut bars are such sore losers.

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I’m not disputing the election, dummy. I’m saying that you’re unable to accept that Trump is unpopular when compared to any other president in modern history. Because you can’t accept it, and that’s quite sad/hilarious.

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I think you’ll find that YVR brought up popular vote tallies.

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He brought up popular vote tallies in BC and you go off and bring up popular vote tallies in the US.

There is no comparison, completely different systems.

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Who made any claims about similarity of electoral systems? Not I.

Fool.

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You can’t resist ending a post with an insult.

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Apology accepted.

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Actually Trump received the second most votes of any president is history. And his popularity is above that of Obama who is the only president to get more votes that Trump. Those are facts.

Now back to you to parrot more fake news if it makes you feel better.

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Population increases over time, silly. Comparing absolute vote counts over long periods of time is totally bizarre and pointless.

You have no data to show that Trump is more popular than Obama, either. Perhaps you’ll find a day or three where that were briefly true, but it’s not even close for the first two years of his presidency. As stated numerous times Trump lags behind every other president in modern history. This is an undeniable fact. You’re simply unable to deal with it, which is really quite adorable.

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More people voted for Trump than any other president other than Obama. Fact. Trump is more popular that Obama in the polls. Fact. I only mention these because you parrot fake news about votes and polls. I could care less. The person who is unable to deal with Trump being elected president is you. That is clear. Parroting fake news is not going to change it. Try more medication.

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You can’t help yourself can you? You think Trump is more popular than Obama despite Trump not once reaching 50% approval within the margin of error? As I stated earlier, Obama has been more popular than Trump for every day of his presidency so far, whereas Trump has been the least popular president for something like 95% of the days since he took office. That’s simply awful. What an utter clown you are. The funniest part is that this would be a trivial point for you to concede – after all, far better arguments would be that polls are irrelevant this far from the election or who even cares if you’re on the side of popularity – but your personality disorder clearly precludes you from admitting to basic facts once you’ve dug in. But I get it, you’ve picked a… Read more »
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Like I said up the meds it may help with your derangement. Parroting fake news is not going to help no matter how many times you shriek it.

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The Greens will wait it out. The NDP are self destructing. Everything the NDP ran on has gone the opposite direction. What are the NDP going to run on next election? Give us one more change to lower housing prices, lower rents, build all that affordable housing we promised, fix ICBC and lower hydro rates? Add in things like photos radar, a bunch of new bad union contracts and probably a deficit. The NDP are done.

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“I agree voting NDP is the blow it up vote. Their policies along with the federal Liberals will put BC in a massive depression which will kill the economy at all levels except for HAM related business which will feast on the low CAD when it is hovering around 55 cents.

At this point it looks like another BC Liberal majority. The NDP just does not have a good platform. Add in the left vote is being split with the Green Party while the BC Liberals have no other party on the right to compete with. This may be the biggest landslide in decades.”

When Prophecy Fails

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Does this make you a liar YVR?

If compared to how you judge the NDP?

Or did you just get it wrong?

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I am not judging the NDP on predictions. I am judging them on them not doing what they said they were going to do and making the things worse that they said they would make better and doing the exact same thing they criticized the previous government for doing.

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B.C. NDP platform promises 114,000 new rental, co-op, social, and owner-purchase homes

https://www.straight.com/news/895446/bc-ndp-platform-promises-114000-new-rental-co-op-social-and-owner-purchase-homes

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“Increasing the supply of housing is the best way to make housing more affordable and keep it affordable,” the B.C. NDP platform states. “John Horgan and the BC NDP will fix the shortage. We will work with all levels of government, First Nations and the not-for-profit and private sectors, to secure land and build needed housing.” The platform notes that these homes “will be a mix of housing for students, singles, seniors, and families and will range from supported social housing to quality, market rental housing”.

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That’s in addition to the party’s promises to provide a $400 annual rebate to renters. The platform also pledges to provide fair treatment for tenants during renovations and demolitions. That’s not all: the B.C. NDP also says it will not leave people in the lurch when federal funding expires for co-op housing.

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“B.C. NDP platform promises 114,000 new rental, co-op, social, and owner-purchase homes”

Rental housing under construction is at an all time high.

YVR
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Link? And what did the NDP have to do with it?

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Rents are also at an all time high. In fact 15% higher since the election. What ever the NDP are doing it is not working.

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You’re the Oracle of rents. Rents are in free fall but just like Abby townhouse, we’ll all pretend they’re still on fire so you don’t have a breakdown like Oracle recently did.

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CHMC data was previously posted showing rents indeed increased by something around 15% since the election. Whether they’re presently falling is undetermined.

YVR
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“You’re the Oracle of rents.”

I am the person who links CMHC data that rents rising and you have none to show they are falling. Who is the Oracle of rents?

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The BC Liberals were a few hundred votes away from a majority and won the popular vote and most seats. The Canadian dollar has plummeted under Trudeau and the BC NDP and looks to go much lower once the BoC cuts. Remember the CAD vs US was at par not long ago under Harper and the BC Liberals. I was not far off and the BC election is still over 2 years away.

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“The Canadian dollar has plummeted under Trudeau and the BC NDP and looks to go much lower once the BoC cuts.”

Shame on the BC NDP for tanking the Canadian dollar.

What were they thinking?

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They were thinking blocking the pipe line would be a good thing. On top of that allowing credit unions to bypass B20 is creating more debt. Debt and land locked oil are the biggest drag on the CAD.