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Werner Stein
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Werner Stein

Exhibit C
“You seem to have some bigger issues too. Get help.”

Projection
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Projection

Grow up.

Werner Stein
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Werner Stein

Exhit B
WS, you are definitely very immature and clueless

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

When somebody shows you that you are wrong you simply ignore them and instead open up a new talking point as a diversionary tactic.

So I’d say Exhibit B is an accurate assessment.

Werner Stein
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Werner Stein

“Get real help, kid.”

Again, a personal attack, and an insensitive and brash statement, obviously implying that I have a mental disorder.
clearly indication of the weakness of your position.

southseacompany
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southseacompany

“Tyee Poll: Are You Booing or Cheering the Drop in Vancouver House Prices?”

https://thetyee.ca/Polls/2020/01/13/poll-boo-or-cheer-falling-housing-prices/

I’m cheering.
I’m booing.
I have mixed feelings.
I don’t know.

Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

82% cheering.

southseacompany
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southseacompany

“7 Houses Over $1 Million That Show The Crazy Reality Of Living In Vancouver “, NarCity

https://www.narcity.com/real-estate/ca/bc/vancouver/vancouver-homes-worth-over-dollar1000000-that-show-the-crazy-reality-of-living-in-vancouver

“Growing up, we always wanted to have a million dollars to buy a giant mansion with a pool. These days, a million doesn’t go very far, even if you have it. These seven Vancouver homes worth over $1,000,000 show what the actual, crazy reality of homeownership is like in Vancouver right now.”

Bear Vancouverite
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Bear Vancouverite
@Projection said : “Lots of my friends have been waiting for a very long time. Some waited the whole 15 years. They are angry at the Bank of Canada for holding the rates so low for such a long time, at the government for de-facto bailing out the banks and prioritizing the growth of the real estate market all this time; they are angry at immigrants, the Chinese, the local “fools” and anybody who has bought over the years. I have empathy for my friends. They are getting older and still haven’t firmly put down their roots. But here is the problem with it – being angry at these things is like being angry at the wind. There is nothing they can do about it and their energy should have been focused elsewhere. They are getting older and deep down… Read more »
Projection
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Projection

I know people who got fed up and moved to the US (Seattle, Dallas etc.) or to the east – Halifax, Fredericton etc. They don’t seem to be regretting it. Moving to a more affordable locale is a legit solution.

Bestplaceonearth
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Bestplaceonearth

If I were to start, I would go out to surrey , new west and work my way back in Vancouver long term. I would not expect to get a Yale town condo, or a east side detach. This town has never been affordable to start.

Werner Stein
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Werner Stein

I have stated in many ways, and many times why this carbuncle is going to pop, and leave a mess.

Your standard and repeating diatribe as always consisted of name calling, diagnosing me with a mental illness, and of course, without fail, each and every time your repeated that it hasn’t popped in 15 years so it never will.

Bestplaceonearth
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Bestplaceonearth

-So people should just heed your misinformation and be priced out for life?
You, an anonymous person with no track record and no portfolio to show, expect people to give a damn on what you say. So naive are you.
-Actually, it did pop two times, and there is one happening. Three corrections have occurred since 2008, the glass-half-empty crowd could not put their act together.
-You don’t have to worry about people’s mess. Noone asked you to. If you have too much free time, get a second job to increase your income.
-Reach out to the community, like a realtor, mortgage broker, bank loan officer, financial planner. A rent vs own calculation does not cut it. Get real help, kid.

Projection
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Projection

WS, you are definitely very immature and clueless.

I never said that the market will never pop, but the doomers, after 15 years of being wrong, should think before calling other people fools.

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

Nobody is saying a frothy market can never correct. But I think most will agree that you’ll never again buy a SFH at the price the the fools here thought were too high 15 years ago. Not buying back then was a mistake and will likely remain a mistake even after a price drop of reasonable magnitude.

Many of the past decisions not to buy, at least of those that I saw on various forums, were based on flawed buy vs rent calculations. And yet still they cannot admit their error (mortgage principal payments are not an expense, because they have a neutral impact on net worth as opposed to a negative impact).

Ad hoc
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Ad hoc

You are ignoring the lost opportunity cost of the funds repaying the mortgage principle.

Bestplaceonearth
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Bestplaceonearth

Professional renters would consider opportunity cost into principal residence ownership. They think they can beat the market. And please don’t bring up the s&p; hindsight is always 20/20.

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

No, I’m not. I’m saying that mortgage principal repayments are not an expense. Which is true.

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Werner Stein
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Werner Stein

The name calling is a strong rebuttal.

Bestplaceonearth
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Bestplaceonearth

…and you are innocent yourself?

Projection
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Projection

Name-dropping and word-dropping is just your way to mentally hide from reality. You haven’t provided any arguments to rebut and you consistently ignore facts, stats and advice from posters who know better than you.

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

Tick tock?

Projection
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Projection

haha 🙂

Werner Stein
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Werner Stein

I suppose we could do some research and learn about standard deviation, asset pricing theory: make use of statistical data from Statscan, Demographia, World Bank. And we could create models including demographics, income to rent ratios, income to purchase ratios. We could even read Shiller, Galbraith, and about all the many bubbles that have come and popped, ie Tulipmania , Southseas, Bitcom, Dotcom, and many Real estate booms and busts.

Or we could put or faith in blog posters like Projection, Bestplaceonearth etc.

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

Why go to such lengths when you can just bitch about foreigners and generally act like an angry unemployable douchebag?

Bestplaceonearth
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Bestplaceonearth

…and you don’t have faith in yourself, how do you suppose to put faith on others.

Bestplaceonearth
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Bestplaceonearth

The elites like data analysis, graphs, charts etc… How have these tools served them so far? Well, they read too much into it, the market has priced them out.
It’s a scary world out there, kid. Put a blanket over your head while making another new theory.

Projection
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Projection

Weak

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Washington Post editorial board: “If this horror is not ended soon, the entire world must ask: Should China be allowed to host the 2022 Winter Olympics in one city while running concentration camps in another?”

https://twitter.com/JChengWSJ/status/1216155580953288705

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aaa

As China market shrinks for second year, automakers plan retreat

Sales slid 8.2% last year to 25.77 million vehicles, after a 2.8% drop in 2018, the China Association of Automobile Manufacturers said Monday.

https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Automobiles/As-China-market-shrinks-for-second-year-automakers-plan-retreat

bullwhip29
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Canadian taxpayers are funding university research with technical reports, samples, models and prototypes created given to Chinese telecommunications giant Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd
https://www.richmond-news.com/special-report-canadian-taxpayers-companies-subsidizing-huawei-research-1.24051719

Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

Great, more spies and thieves from the worlds premiere evil shithole.

Kick Huawei the fuck out of our country!

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

I bet you still believe that Bloomberg article about Supermicro.

How adorable.

Projection
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Projection

vancouverunrealestate started in 2006. Gave up when prices bottomed out in Feb 2009. Probably saw the light.

Projection
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Projection

Fishy RE blog started 11 years ago. Bearish until he gave up in 2013.

Projection
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Projection

Housing Analysis blog started 13 years ago. Used to be one of the better blogs with some interesting info and covering topics beyond real estate. As far as I can tell, the author has been bearish the whole time, but I doubt that prevented him from buying.

Projection
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Projection

12 years since Garth Turner released his “Greater Fool” book. Worked out well for him, not so much for his followers.

Burnabonian
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Burnabonian

Just sold below 2011 purchase price… $305,000 loss…

4569 Osler St, Vancouver

Bought 2011 $4,380,000

Sold for $4,075,000

2019 Assessed: $4,009,000
2018 Assessed: $4,683,000
2017 Assessed: $5,171,000

Bear Vancouverite
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Bear Vancouverite

Do you happen to have Assessed values before 2017?

Projection
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Projection

Huh? What has one anecdote (assuming it’s even true) to do with Garth being so spectacularly wrong?

Burnabonian
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Burnabonian

My main comment got stuck in moderation.

Loads of properties are now selling at pre-2015 prices. (Hundreds, and not just in the >$1.5MM bracket.)

So a large percentage of people who bought after 2014 got wrecked in nominal terms alone.

And absolutely corn holed if you also take into account their additional, very real losses to opportunity cost and inflation.

Garth’s warning was in fact poignant, accurate, and well-timed.

You talk about being angry at the wind. Then you come on a bear blog to be angry at bears for their bearish sentiment. While ignoring heaps and mountains of publicly available data that points to the crash having begun in earnest in 2016 and still being in full swing 3.5-4 years later.

There is a reddit called selfawarewolves.

Projection
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Projection

“You talk about being angry at the wind. Then you come on a bear blog to be angry at bears for their bearish sentiment.”

If you don’t see the difference between spending years being angry at forces that are far beyond your control, like the world economy or the federal government vs talking to a bunch of delusional bears, then it suggests that you have a serious problem dealing with the real world and I can’t help you.

Projection
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Projection

> Garth’s warning was in fact poignant, accurate, and well-timed.

It wasn’t. The amount of delusion on this blog is unbelievable.

> publicly available data that points to the crash having begun in earnest in 2016

Bullshit. 2016 was one of the strongest selling years in Vancouver RE history.

Burnabonian
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Burnabonian
I said “began” in 2016. As in peak values in many segments were in 2016-17, and those segments have declined continuously since. I challenge you to spend 90 minutes, uninterrupted, reading one twitter account. Read it without stopping and make a tally mark on a sheet of paper every time you see a property that has sold for less than what it sold for last time. (Or, absent a sale this decade, under previous assessment.) Hundreds or thousands of properties have sold for hundreds OF thousands (or millions) below previous selling price and/or previous assessment. Since 2016. It is a massive tidal wave of verifiable data that housing prices are declining in a sustained, prolonged, multi-year catastrophe. Here is your challenge. You can lie to me, but do not lie to yourself: twitter dot com / mortimer_1
Projection
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Projection

I have never lied here, unlike the bears who keep spreading lies year after year.

I looked at that twitter account and it doesn’t support your assertions. It’s mostly a list of declining tax assessments, which is very different from selling below previous buying price. Some of the posts even show properties that are selling way above their current tax assessed values (for ex. 1666 Marlowe Place, West Vancouver).

So, it’s you who is lying to yourself and that twitter account is just a small part of the circle of toxic bullshit, like this blog.

Burnabonian
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Burnabonian

I said 90 minutes.

He is a prolific writer and spent a lot of 2020 pointing out that the assessment office thinks that property values are crashing.

But if you spend a real, honest, 1-2 hours reading it continuously, you will read about hundreds of sales where the property used to be worth more (sold for more last time, or was assessed higher, or both) and now is worth less.

Spend 3 or 4 hours reading it and you will read thousands of data points from the last 4 years. All of falling values.

That is real data, not “analysis” or “prediction”. Data about people who bought for x and sold for <x.

In fact, you could think of it as a windstorm of data. Into which you are yelling.

Projection
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Projection

I am quite familiar with the market and the data and I already showed you that the twitter account doesn’t show what you claim.

Burnabonian
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Burnabonian

Well if it’s not a crash, how do you account for so many properties falling in value over the last 4 years?

How do you account for the BC Assessment office’s analysis that most properties in the lower mainland have lost huge amounts of value?

What data are you using that shows you that housing prices are even flat?

Projection
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Projection

There has been a mild correction in most segments of the market and a bigger correction in the very high end of the market.
Available data shows that the correction is over in most price segments. The segments that are actually somewhat attainable to locals are going up in price – MoM. YoY is a lagging indicator.

Burnabonian
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Burnabonian
There is no such thing as month-over-month DATA. The only data (not estimates and projections by realtors and industry fluffers) is SAME PROPERTY SALES PAIRS. And the same properties do not sell repeatedly from one month to the next. Anyone pretending to have MOM “data” does not understand the meaning of the word “data”. Looking at actual data, there are properties in most market segments and in most areas, in January 2020, that are selling for less than what they sold for last time. What else do you need to know. In these pairs, the previous sale is anywhere from many months or multiple years ago, and the property sells again for less right now today than it did last year or several years ago. Nothing about that says “correction is over”. Not even “dead cat bounce”. If prices were… Read more »
Projection
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Projection

This is pointless. You failed to provide serious evidence. That one anecdote and a twitter account that doesn’t show what you claim it shows aren’t enough. There are very few same property sales pairs between say 2018 and 2019… The assessments don’t show much either. Most went way up in 2018 and it was a mirage, hence you see a decrease in those assessments this year. That doesn’t imply a crash. The best data available (which I already mentioned) doesn’t imply a crash. Sales being over the 10 year average don’t imply a crash. You are getting worked up by anecdotes from the high end of the market that is unattainable to most in Vancouver and every bear on this blog.

Burnabonian
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Burnabonian

I’m not here to convince you, nor to provide evidence.

You’re the one who has burdened himself with proving a negative. “The market is not crashing and it will never crash” is a lot to bite off.

I admire your ambition but not your execution.

If you were as sure as you claim, you wouldn’t need to be so yelly about it.

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

Of course MOM data exists. It’s perfectly reasonable to analyze the median, mean, and other statistics derived from all sales from any given month.

The HPI does this, and its methodology is published – so you should feel free to scrutinize it. Then come back and tell us what new and absurd definition of “data” it is you’re using.

Of course such analysis becomes brittle as the number of sales falls, but this is isn’t exactly unknown to anybody with a basic grasp of statistics.

Burnabonian
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Burnabonian
“Data” is transactions, full stop. There is no month-over-month data because there are no month-over-month transactions. To have MOM data, you would have to have a statistically significant set of properties that were resold at market prices every single month. It’s nonsense. Statistics are not data; they are *interpretations* of data. You are saying “well this house did not sell at all this month, or this year, or this decade, but using my proprietary algorithms, and having consulted with an astrological seer who lives in a cave in the desert near Marrakesh, I have predicted that it would be worth ONE TRILLION US DOLLARS. (If it ever sold, which it has not, despite being on the market for 432 days.) I think that Realtors are just mad because their entire industry (and their usefulness to mankind) can be replaced by… Read more »
Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

To claim that we have no data is quite ludicrous. Naturally we have no data for any specific property outside of the times it was sold (which arguably tells you only price, not value) but I don’t think anybody was actually arguing that we do. So you can stop being so silly.

The MOM data (and it IS data) we have, which of course relates to the market transactions as a whole, indicates that the correction may have bottomed out 3-4 months ago. Which was the point I think you were trying to refute, but instead chose to do a little dance around semantics.

Projection
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>“Data” is transactions, full stop. There is no month-over-month data because there are no month-over-month transactions.

Taking this to its logical conclusion means that there is no pricing mechanism. If you own a property, you are in the dark, because you didn’t sell yet and your neighbor’s sale isn’t “data” you can use. If you are selling N pieces of a widget, you have no idea what each individual widget costs until you sell it. If someone creates a similar, competing, widget, they have no idea how they should price it, because there is no “data”.

Burnabonian
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Burnabonian
Now you are getting it. The value of your house is only what you actually get paid for it on the day you actually sell it. Every other number that anyone else tells you is just a hypothesis. Appraiser, assessor, realtor, HPI. Just theories. In housing there is almost no volume, ZERO direct comparables, and no market maker! People who treat it like the stock market (“TSLA is worth $420 today and just passed its’ 200 day moving average”) are playing a dangerous and stupid game. It might be reasonable to assume that TSLA is worth $420 because a) millions of identical units traded hands in the last hour for $420, and b) there is a market maker offering $419.995 to anyone in the world willing to sell any part of 10 million identical units. Even given those factoids, when… Read more »
Projection
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Projection

Wow, you are really clueless. How many years have you wasted being “correct” on this blog?

Burnabonian
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Burnabonian
That’s like saying that IBM stock is definitely going up because tech stocks are going up on average. Poppycock. Every property is different, every sale is different, every buyer is different. The sales mix is different every day. The volumes are tiny. Any statistic is by definition irrelevant because you cannot exclude all of those variables. Saying that an individual home value went up because average, median, or mode price went up is absurd. That would be like taking the average of an apple and a cadillac. Only same property sales pairs are meaningful. (Even less meaningful than average or median sales price is the SECRET, realtor-invented HPI snake oil algorithm in which they use a magical sorting hat to select a house that they feel represents an entire neighbourhood and then select a price for that house that they… Read more »
Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

It’s nothing like that. Because we know exactly how much IBM earns relative to its peers, and can therefore establish if it is under or over performing.

Now, if only there were a metric to approximate how much a house earns that can be used reliably to compare different individual properties of similar characteristic….

Bestplaceonearth
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Bestplaceonearth

Good find. I assume these multi million dollar listing makes it more affordable for the regular Joe entry buyer.

Burnabonian
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Burnabonian

It’s not one find. It’s one of thousands. Including “regular joe entry buyer” properties.

Selling for cheaper than they sold for last year, which is cheaper than they sold for the year before.

Which is why the assessor’s office decided to reduce almost everyone’s assessments. Because they have ASSESSED that houses are selling for less than they used to all over the frickin place.

Sorry, who is yelling at the wind?

bestplaceonearth
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bestplaceonearth

” the assessor’s office decided to reduce almost”
The assessment values compare and adjust to neighborly properties previously sold by July 1 every year. Their office did/do/will not decide to decrease or increase values of properties.
These assessment values are merely for property tax assessed by the municipalities. They do not reflect the current market value – they are outdated by the time the letter hit the mail boxes…by six months.
By your comments, the market is more affordable then before. So, there should not be whining and moaning as there is a place for every resident. How will you set your trike price with your pile of cash?

Burnabonian
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Burnabonian
LOL Realtor s like to talk assessments when they go up, then dismiss them as obsolete and not representative when they go down. The assessor is the one party that is relatively neutral, with no vested interest in artificially inflating valuations or depressing them. And a strong incentive to make them as accurate as possible, since any assessment that is too high OR too low can trigger a costly appeals process. They look at every single sale in every single neighbourhood, including the statistics and details of every single property, and interpolate all current estimated market prices. They do it six months in arrears because they are government so they are very slow at things. But this is actually a good reminder that everything in real estate is a rough guess until the day that the cheque is written anyway.… Read more »
bestplaceonearth
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bestplaceonearth

Wow, getting angry again, with all the swearing, aren’t we!
So, bears have been crying about affordability. Base on your comments, the market is crashing, when are you gonna purchase your principle residence? It’s much more affordable now since you can read the market and the ” lying c ck suckers ” can’t… Isn’t it time to take out the pile of cash from your pillow!

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

Right. And they did that without a sales pair for every property in the province.

bullwhip29
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bullwhip29

A national association of insolvency and restructuring professionals expects personal insolvencies will grow in 2020 after the rate of filings increased 8.9 per cent in November over the same 12-month period the previous year
https://www.richmond-news.com/personal-insolvency-filings-over-12-months-increased-8-9-per-cent-in-november-1.24051525

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bullwhip29

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle have refused to name the the secretive multi-millionaire who loaned the couple their $14 million seafront mansion close to Victoria, British Columbia – but who has used highly controversial methods also deployed by money-launderers and tax-evaders to conceal his identity.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7869529/Meghan-Harry-refuse-mystery-multi-millionaire-owns-Christmas-mansion.html

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

They’re under no obligation to name them, so who cares?

bullwhip29
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bullwhip29

lots of locals will care if this owner is granted a special exemption and allowed to remain anonymous (which is what i am expecting) just because he/she has connections.

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

Nobody is suggesting any sort of exemption. You’re just getting yourself worked up about something which only exists in your head again. It’s not healthy.

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Ad Hoc

525 Towner Park Road North Saanich V8L 5L7

https://www.bcassessment.ca//Property/Info/QTAwMDBIUUswQg==

The owner will be disclosed later this year.

bullwhip29
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bullwhip29

Care home for Chinese seniors celebrates new digs in East Vancouver
https://www.vancourier.com/news/care-home-for-chinese-seniors-celebrates-new-digs-in-east-vancouver-1.24050487

Joe Wai and his firm JYW Architecture designed the $72.9-million project of which BC Housing kicked in up to $52 million

Phase two will see construction of an adjoining three-storey pavilion that’s expected to be completed in 2021

bok choy soup, stir fry pork slices, steamed noodles, Shanghai bok choy, rice and congee are on the menu

there is currently a waitlist in excess of 3 years

Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

“Meals are brought up to dining rooms located on each floor so the elderly don’t need to make the time-consuming and tiring elevator trip downstairs three times a day to eat.”

Anyone who is so far gone that they find it exhausting to take an elevator should probably just expire already.

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

What’s your problem this time, then?

bullwhip29
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bullwhip29

why the special treatment for chinese seniors specifically? this “villa” isn’t even located in chinatown. what about seniors of other nationalities who live in that neighborhood and have been paying taxes and contributing for decades? what, i guess they get one of those card board shacks in the park across the street. oh, wait… they are about to be relocated…my bad.

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

I think you must know what a fucking idiot you are.

Ad hoc
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Ad hoc

It is clearly reverse racism. What if there was a care home catering only for elderly European Caucasians? How would that fly ?

Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

There is no such thing as reverse racism.

Racism is racism no matter who is on either end of it, and if this care home that is being funded partly with taxpayer money only allows chinese then it’s clearly racism.

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

Ah, but “Chinese” is a nationality – not a race.

Remember?

Bear Vancouverite
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@Werner Stein and @Project, a comment from a neutral observer: I am a long time bear and visitor here. I feel that Projection is overly smug and does try to grind down bears with an overly broad set of assumptions (ie he constantly repeats some mantra about bears being wrong for over 15 years, yet many bears in Vancouver have only been bears for 3-4 years, or 5-6 years). He claims to have been a bear that reformed and bought, yet he shows no empathy for others who may not have made the same decisions that worked out so well for him. I find his story of being a former obsessed bear to be suspect, that or his character is lacking. However, his discussion of stats appears factual and not too biased. You however, post way too frequently, and often… Read more »
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I am aware that many/most people here have been bears for less than 15 years (some, like Werner Stein, are probably just 15 years old, at least mentally). However, I am making a specific point. Lots of my friends have been waiting for a very long time. Some waited the whole 15 years. They are angry at the Bank of Canada for holding the rates so low for such a long time, at the government for de-facto bailing out the banks and prioritizing the growth of the real estate market all this time; they are angry at immigrants, the Chinese, the local “fools” and anybody who has bought over the years. I have empathy for my friends. They are getting older and still haven’t firmly put down their roots. But here is the problem with it – being angry at… Read more »
No Shill
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No Shill

Your comments will fall mostly on deaf ears, alright. Because, you’re an idiot.

Projection
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Projection

Thanks for proving my point about the “bears” here.

No Shill
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No Shill

Make than an idiot x2.

Projection
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Projection

Hopefully, this makes you happy. You don’t have much else going for you.

Next year, you will be still here writing your nonsense.

Bear Vancouverite
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Bear Vancouverite

Above last sentence should have said:

“But I think BOC will lower interest rates this year and maybe next, and that might ignite the <$1M and even $1.2-1.5M range.

Anyone buying $3M+ should be negotiating pretty hard."

Werner Stein
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Werner Stein
Projection, bestplaceonearth, bert, shoutidown, oracle et al Although you have been nasty and have posted some hurtful tirades, I’ll be generous and give you the basis of a new spring campaign. Hurry get your contact list out and start dialing for dollars. And keep in mind as they say in your business: ” sell the sizzle, not the steak”. Your campaign is to hit all the comment sections of all publications, and let it be known that Harry, Meghan and Archie, may be moving to BC (the best place on earth- palm tree weather, ski in the morning, and sail in the afternoon- you know the yarn). Better warn your prospects that they better get in now, or they will be forever priced out, as news will get out to all the billionaires around the world and they will want… Read more »
bestplaceonearth
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bestplaceonearth

Are you working on a marketing degree now? Is this part of your working paper for graduation?
If you must know, marketing consultant is for a person who cannot find a real job.
And, do reach out to the community for help, seriously.

Projection
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Projection

“have posted some hurtful tirades”

Truth hurts.

You seem to have some bigger issues too. Get help.

Shut It Down Already (original)
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Shut It Down Already (original)

So weird.

Best place on meth
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Best place on meth

Landslide victory for the anti-china party in Taiwan, so soon after the landslide wins of anti-china candidates in Hong Kong elections.

It’s official, literally everyone around the world despises those worthless mainland vermin, even other ethnic chinese.

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