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Good news if you’re looking for recreational property in BC, you’ll find less competition as demand has dropped off and recreational property in areas like the south Okanagan has moved into ‘clear buyer territory’ according to RE/Max:

“The demand for waterfront recreational properties remains strong, but prices have stabilized,” Re/Max regional executive vice-president Elton Ash said in an interview. “That’s good news for consumers because there are fewer multiple offers driving prices higher.”

As well, Ash said, the availability of bargain real estate properties in the U.S. has clearly reduced the number of buyers looking at Canadian recreational properties.

“We see U.S. owners of Canadian properties putting them up for sale now so they can take their profits and reinvest them in the U.S sun belt,” Ash said.

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While the price of a three-bedroom winterized home on ocean frontage on Saltspring Island starts at about $1.3 million, there are more affordable properties for sale throughout B.C.

The report said the South Okanagan market has moved into “clear buyer territory” for the first time in five years, with rising inventories, falling sales and price corrections underway.

The price of a two-bedroom condo on the water near Penticton now starts at about $400,000, with some developers paying the GST and providing complete appliance packages.

The report noted the North Okanagan recreational property market has also reached a plateau, but affordability remains an issue with a typical three-bedroom winterized home on a 66-foot Okanagan Lake lot starting at $1.5 million.

Does less competition and low interest rates make this the perfect buying opportunity or are ‘price corrections’ due to take a further chunk out of the recreational real estate market?

From the ’sun predicted to set’ department of todays Province comes this article: BC developer warns of cooling condo market.

B.C.’s development industry must be nimble, disciplined and well-financed to survive the cooling of the provincial market, a veteran developer says.

The Lower Mainland has yet to experience the full impact of the U.S. housing slowdown and the troubles sweeping the Interior’s forest sector, Concert Properties president David Podmore said yesterday.

“I do think you’re going to see a continued slowing of our economy as . . . what’s happening in the Interior and the U.S. spill over,” Podmore told a conference on the future of B.C.’s housing industry.

“You’re going to have to really sharpen your skills to be successful and to compete effectively.”

Podmore said developers should stop relying on pre-sales, which he called a phenomenon of the past eight to 10 years.

The market is heading into a period where projects may take half-a-year to sell out, he said.

Disciplined developers will pull the plug on projects if it becomes clear they can’t succeed, he said.

There will be opportunities for well-financed developers to take over idled projects - but they must be fast on their feet, he said.

The ‘pulling of plugs’ has already started to happen on some projects like the Eden group Elyse.  Those that don’t pull the plug when they can get it pulled for them and go into recievership Sophia, H+H, Gardencity, etc.  There’s good news though, as the US housing slowdown continues it’s forecast that material prices will moderate.

Are you priced out of the Vancouver real estate market? According to the Province, you’re not the only one.  The weekend the Province ran a series of articles on the costly local real estate market:

So who’s buying? 

The answer is anyone with one or more of the following: wealthy boomer parents, equity from previous real estate or extremely high double-income earnings.

But even with those prerequisites, many are stretching their limits.

“Everybody maxes,” says Marty Pospischil, a realtor with Dexter Realty specializing in the west side.

The profile of a typical buyer of a $1.3-million, three-bed, two-bath west-side home is a couple between 35 and 45 years old with one or two young children. They are both professionals who have ascended the ranks — think stockbroker, lawyer, doctor.

They will usually have a down payment of $400,000 to $500,000 — derived from a combination of personal equity, inheritance or a substantial gift from a wealthy boomer parent, says Pospischil.

That means they’re still borrowing between $800,000-$900,000.

Expectations clash with reality:

With the income-to-house-price ratio the highest it’s ever been in B.C., the overwhelming perception — particularly in Vancouver — is that the market has changed the definition of “middle class” and displaced the working poor.

It is increasingly common to see children raised in condos, married couples living in their parents’ basements, young professionals taking on second jobs, workers commuting long hours, the growth of the 40-year mortgage (which 65 per cent of first-time buyers are now using, according to a RE/MAX report) and the realization for some that an inheritance is the only way to a single-family home.

Tsur Somerville: its not a bubble:

“If you say bubble, then at some point it’s going to pop. And if you look at our price increases, they’ve been double-digit, but for the most part they’ve been between 11 to 15 per cent for the past few years. That’s high, but in a bubble you start to see 20-per-cent growth, 30-per-cent growth. Just really rapid acceleration, and we haven’t seen that. That’s what happened in 1981 and 1982 . . . That’s what a bubble looks like.”

Reader feedback:

John: There’s no point complaining about prices. I think people should focus their energy on how they can find new ideas/businesses/solutions to generate more income. If you spend all your time complaining you won’t have enough time thinking about new businesses that can work and make more money!

Spring is here and the listings are blooming like crazy. Both Vancouver and the Fraser Valley are being hit by a combination of fewer buyers and a greater number of owners looking to cash out. Here’s the REBGV listings chart for the last 4 years courtesy of Paul Boenisch:

Clicking the graph above will bring you to his blog which has additional graphs for sub areas- we’re seeing rapid inventory growth on the west side and north shore. Paul also tracks daily statistics on sales, price and listings on his website.

In the Fraser Valley listings are growing as well - They now have a near record amount of inventory. The following sales and listings chart for the FVREB was created by Mohican at Langley Financial Planning. Check out his site for more charts and detail on the Fraser Valley market.

It looks like growing inventory is starting to put some pressure on prices. Prices in all categories are up year over year, but the month over month figures look unusual for the spring selling season. The Benchmark price is down in all categories in North Vancouver, slightly up for houses and townhouses in Vancouver, but Vancouver condo’s and apartments saw their benchmark price drop by 3.16% in April. The spring market so far this year is looking markedly different from the last few years, we’ll see how this trend holds up into the summer.

I’m not sure why this article is located on ‘globe sports’ in the hockey section, but this article about mortgage trends in Canada has some shocking statistics based on a recent RE/Max report and some interesting quotes from a few of the big Canadian banks:

Nearly two-thirds of buyers in major centres now favour extended amortization periods of up to 40 years, while putting little or no money down was prevalent in 38 per cent of regional markets surveyed across Canada.

The country’s real estate industry has played down any similarities to the U.S. when it comes to subprime borrowers. But as new segments of the Canadian population enter the market, the findings raise questions about what’s been driving soaring house prices in recent years.

“The reason we think the market has been staying hotter much longer than anyone anticipated was because of these newer amortization mortgages,” said Craig Alexander at Toronto-Dominion Bank.

“Because it really does change the affordability equation,” Mr. Alexander said.

Canada’s housing market has for years defied predictions of a slowdown. From 2002 to 2007, average home prices rose at about 10 per cent a year nationally, Mr. Alexander figures. A willingness to buy now and pay later explains much of the recent heat. Longer amortization mortgages “have had a very profound impact on the Canadian housing market since they were introduced” in 2006, he added.

Buying a house has become increasingly accessible. The flip side, though, is that more home buyers are now susceptible should the housing or labour markets weaken, or if interest rates change direction.

“We’re more vulnerable than we were in the past, and I think that’s just a factor of financial and mortgage innovation,” said Adrienne Warren at Bank of Nova Scotia. “At the same time, it’s a trade-off - more people are getting into home ownership earlier.”

In their report RE/Max attributes the boom to these new mortgage products:

“Innovative financing has become key to home ownership in today’s environment,” yesterday’s report said. “Entry-level purchasers are adjusting their expectations by sacrificing size, location, and even long-term financial freedom to overcome challenges such as rising prices and serious supply issues.”

Policy changes help explain why so many people have been entering the market. Ottawa extended the maximum amortization period to up to 40 years from 25 years in 2006. In the same year, Canada Mortgage and Housing Corp. began providing insurance to lenders for interest-only mortgages.

Mr. Alexander figures that as many as 70 per cent of first-time buyers are opting for longer amortizations. “It’s a double-edged sword. It brings down your monthly payments. But it will actually double the amount of interest you pay over the lifetime of the loan.”

According to this article in the Globe and Mail the Canadian housing boom is now ‘officially over‘.

It’s time for Canadians to bid the housing boom farewell as data for the first quarter of the year, released Thursday by the Canadian Real Estate Association (CREA), showed a 13 per cent tumble in existing home sales year-to-date.

“Canada’s six-year housing market boom is officially over. Aside from a few choice Prairie locales, sales are melting faster than this year’s snow pack,” Douglas Porter, deputy chief economist at BMO Nesbitt Burns Inc., said in a research note.

Double-digit declines in sales activity in “more markets than you can shake a stick at,” suggest the weakness has spread across Canada rather than being centred in any specific market, Mr. Porter said in an interview.

Home sales waned and new listings surged in the first quarter of 2008 as activity in Toronto cooled and a glut of sellers hit the markets in Western Canada, according to CREA’s data.

So we’re not the only city in Canada showing this trend change. Spring is traditionally a strong selling season but it hasn’t kicked in yet this year in Vancouver, it’ll be interesting to watch the growing number of listing into the start of the summer to see how strong this trend is.

When you’re in the middle of an investment mania it’s hard to imagine things ever being any different. A couple of years ago a number of Americans thought investing in real estate in cities like Las Vegas, Miami or San Diego was a great idea - if the market stopped going up it would simply stop appreciating as quickly, prices would never go down.

Well after two years of lower sales and slowly dropping prices pessimism has started to overtake the US housing market with a growing majority showing no interest in buying a home anytime soon:

In a vivid sketch of how the sputtering real estate market is causing distress throughout the country, the Associated Press-AOL Money & Finance poll found that more than a quarter of homeowners worry their home will lose value over the next two years. Fully one in seven mortgage holders fear they won’t be able to make their monthly payments on time over the next six months.

“This is a great time to buy, but not necessarily to sell,” said Robert Jackson, who lives in a two-bedroom house in Ferguson, Mo., with his wife and four young children. He said he would love to purchase a larger home, but can’t because even if he found a buyer, he would probably lose thousands on his house, which he bought less than two years ago.

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Sixty percent said they definitely won’t buy a home in the next two years, up from 53 percent who said so in an AP-AOL poll in September 2006. At the same time, just 11 percent are certain or very likely to buy soon, down from 15 percent two years ago.

The growing reluctance to dip into the housing market seems to stem partly from worry that housing prices will continue falling — good if you’re buying a house but bad if you have to sell one.

The number envisioning falling prices in their area has grown to one in four, while four in 10 think prices will rise, a decrease from two years ago. Expectations for rising prices are highest in the South, with Westerners likeliest to predict they will drop.

Underscoring the public’s unsettled feelings, the number saying local housing prices are about right has fallen to 35 percent. Half say homes are overpriced — especially in the Northeast — while those saying housing is underpriced have doubled to one in 10, particularly Midwesterners.

Here in Vancouver with our run-up in house prices it’s hard to imagine the majority of residents having an overall negative outlook on investing in local real estate, but it’s happened here before and I wouldn’t be surprised to see it happen again when the market corrects.

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This last month saw small gains in the REBGV benchmark price which now stand at the following levels:

Detached (Single family home): $764,616
Attached (Row + Townhouses): $473,543
Apartment (Condominiums) : $389,609

The big change is in the elevated number of listings and lower number of sales we’re seeing at the beginning of the spring selling season. Housing sales in greater Vancouver have dropped to 2001 levels as the credit crisis and financial problems in the US seem to be affecting buyer psychology.

New listings in Greater Vancouver grew by four percent this month, while sales dropped by sixteen percent. In the Fraser Valley listings dropped off by about three percent, while sales dropped by twenty five percent.

Mohican has a great post of current supply and sales data graphed out at Financial Planning and Personal Sanity showing the dramatic shift in listings to sales ratio we’re currently seeing, while Paul Boenisch provides current REBGV statistics broken down by area if you want to keep track of this market going forward.

The crashing US housing market and the high price of metal has led to a bizarre situation: Some houses are now worth less than the scrap metal in their pipes.

Real estate brokers and local authorities say once-proud homes coast-to-coast are being stripped for copper, aluminum and brass by thieves. Much of it ends up with scrap metal traders who say nearly all copper gets shipped overseas, much of it to China and India.

In areas hit hardest by foreclosures, such as the Slavic Village neighborhood of Cleveland, copper and other metals used in plumbing, heating systems and telephone lines are now more valuable than some homes.

“We’re in an incredibly unfortunate time where the nonferrous metals commodities market for scrap is at an all-time high. Houses are getting stripped pretty quickly once they go through the foreclosure process,” Cleveland City Councilman Tony Brancatelli said.

“We’re seeing houses sold for $100 that are distressed houses that should not be recycled,” he said. Some boarded-up homes in his Slavic Village community have “No copper, only PVC” painted on the boards to stop would-be thieves.

I’d guess that for things to get this bad in Vancouver not only would we need to see an absolutely horrible housing market crash, we’d also need to see a boom in the price of scrap stainless steel and granite.

The Bowra group has started sorting through which presales buyers are willing to pay more to keep their condo units:

Their options are to agree to pay a price that is 90 per cent of current market value for their units, which in some cases is more than $100,000 higher than initial pre-sale contract prices they signed in late 2005 and 2006, or take their deposits back and walk away.

British Columbia Supreme Court Judge Grant Burnyeat, last week, issued an order of foreclosure on the project for Bancorp Growth Mortgage Fund Ltd. and a second order authorizing receiver David Bowra to get the 85-per-cent complete development back into construction. That included offering pre-sale buyers the option to still claim their units, but at higher prices.

Buyers can take their deposits back if they want, but the order authorizes Bowra to cancel contracts and sell units at current market prices if necessary.

Developer Bill Eden turned the project over to receivership at the end of February when some $4 million in cost overruns threatened to sink the 81-unit development.

Previous related stories:

-Financing difficulty cancels Vancouver condo projects
-Eden group Sophia goes into receivership
-Receivers report for Eden Sophia
-2 more local condos run into financing problems.