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There’s an interesting article in yesterdays New York Times about American debt, complete with interactive features and debt calculators to compare your debt load to others:  Given a shovel, Americans Dig Deeper into Debt.

Years of spending more than they earn have left a record number of Americans like Ms. McLeod standing at the financial precipice. They have amassed a mountain of debt that grows ever bigger because of high interest rates and fees.

While the circumstances surrounding these downfalls vary, one element is identical: the lucrative lending practices of America’s merchants of debt have led millions of Americans — young and old, native and immigrant, affluent and poor — to the brink. More and more, Americans can identify with miners of old: in debt to the company store with little chance of paying up.

It is not just individuals but the entire economy that is now suffering. Practices that produced record profits for many banks have shaken the nation’s financial system to its foundation. As a growing number of Americans default, banks are recording hundreds of billions in losses, devastating their shareholders.

There’s a meme in the local media that Canadians are more financially conservative than Americans, and while that may certainly be true I wonder about Vancouverites specifically - With our negative savings rate, relatively low incomes and high housing costs are the residents of this city really that different from some of the more extreme US cases?

Yes, markets change and so do ‘expert opinions’. And what a difference just a few days can make! Housing markets change at such a glacial pace that they miss out on the exciting daily ups and downs of the stock market, but the flip side is that once they start to slide it can take years for them to hit bottom. You don’t have to look further than our closest neighbor to the south to see an example of this slow downward slide.

This gradual change makes it all the more remarkable that a local housing market ‘expert’ would be singing two different songs within the space of just a few days. Thanks goes to Condohype for pointing the evolving marketview of Cameron Muir:

• “There is no indication, at this point, of any kind of substantial decline in prices,” Cameron Muir, Friday, July 11 2008
• “It is perfectly reasonable to expect home prices will stay fairly flat or even decline a couple of per cent a year until affordability picks up.” Cameron Muir, Tuesday, July 15 2008

Skeptics take heart, because I already know what you’re thinking - its the wonders of vague wording: a couple of per cent does not equal a ’substantial decline’, so this is not a reversal. And maybe you’re right, except there’s this small point: how many years do we have to suffer declines of ‘a couple percent’ until ‘affordability picks up’? Particularly with a global economic slowdown, a local economy coming off a boom and new mortgage rules that require more fiscal responsibility from buyers? Would a sharp shock to the market that quickly restores ‘affordability’ be a worse scenario than 10 years of slow equity leakage?

In June the REBGV benchmark price for a house dropped by about $5500 to $765,654. From that starting point a drop of just ‘a couple percent’ is a loss of more than $15,000 a year. Of course now that these predictions appear to be changing on a weekly or even daily basis, perhaps we’ll be hearing about the next leg up soon.

Thanks again to Condohype for the tippage.

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This from today’s Globe and Mail - Canadian house prices dropped in June for the first time in nine years:

Canadian home prices fell in June for the first time since January, 1999, as the number of houses for sale remained at record levels.

The average price of an existing home fell 0.4 per cent in June to $341,096, compared with $342,615 the year before, according to statistics released Tuesday by the Canadian Real Estate Association (CREA).

“The fall in home prices…is a sizable dip in this indicator, given that not too long ago the Canadian housing market was witnessing double-digit price gains,” Millan Mulraine, economic strategist at TD Securities Inc., said in a research note.

Of the 25 major markets included in the statistics, average home prices declined on a year-over-year basis in Calgary, Edmonton, Victoria and Windsor-Essex. The largest decline of 2.6 per cent was in Edmonton, while the smallest was in Windsor-Essex at 0.5 per cent.

Last month, BMO Nesbitt Burns Inc. economist Douglas Porter raised the possibility of an overall drop in home prices in Canada. Most industry watchers have stayed with the view that home prices will rise slightly this year.

In June, Mr. Porter said it was “unnerving” to note that Canada’s housing market performance appears to be tracking that of the U.S. but with a two-year lag, although he also sees a number of differences between the two markets.

He said he was tracking prices in the “middle ground,” cities such as Toronto, Montreal and Ottawa, which still have fairly robust economic fundamentals but haven’t been supercharged by the commodities boom.

Prices in those cities all rose moderately year-over-year in June, up 3.7 per cent in Toronto, 4 per cent in Montreal and 6.8 per cent in Ottawa.

The Canadian and U.S. markets are still very different, CREA president Calvin Lindberg said in a statement. U.S. home prices dropped by 14.1 per cent in the first quarter of the year, according to the benchmark Case-Shiller national home price index.

Out local market stands out as the biggest year-over-year decrease in sales in all the Nation, Greater Vancouver saw sales drop 42.9% from last June.

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I’ve heard a number of times that ‘historically’ a variable rate mortgage saves you money over a fixed rate locked in mortgage. This sounds good, but it’s never been clear to me if that ‘history’ only includes the last 25 years or so when rates went from extremely high levels (in the 20% range) to the extreme lows of this decade.

With the Bank of Canada joining other world banks now expressing concern over inflation the assumption is that mortgage rates will be going up. If you currently have a variable rate mortgage is now a good time to lock in? Rob Carrick at the Globe and Mail says no -although locking in now would get you a pretty good deal, rates would have to rise by at least 1% to make a five year locked in mortgage a better choice.

If you prefer the security of a locked in rate your choices as a Canadian are limited. Unlike mortgages in the US where you can lock in a rate for the entire term of the loan, in Canada the longest lock-in I’ve seen is for 10 years. My own gut feeling is that with a small enough premium the full-term US style lock-in would be the best deal - five years might see you renewing at much higher rates. The problem is that nobody can predict how far or how fast rates will move, and if they start to move quickly the best time to be locked in will have already past.

Even if you’re not a homeowner these expected rate changes will affect on you, either with higher rates on consumer debt, changing bond and equity prices in your portfolio or just higher rates paid to you on high interest savings account. So what do you think - am I being to gloomy in my expectation of higher rates?

Re-diculous posted this link to an article in todays Vancouver Sun about a dramatic drop in consumer confidence in BC.

Consumer confidence in B.C. plunged to its lowest level in five years last month as high energy prices and economic concerns test people’s resolve, the Conference Board of Canada reported Monday.

The board said B.C. consumer confidence fell 9.3 points in June to 94.3 - dropping below 100 for the first time since mid-2003.

The consumer confidence rating across Canada dropped 6.2 points in June to 79.6, following a seven-point drop in May, leaving the second quarter reading at its lowest level since the fourth quarter of 1995 when it was 68.8.

There’s been a lot of buzz in the news about inflation and recession worries lately - could this drop in consumer confidence be blamed on the media?

North America isn’t alone in struggling with the combined challenge of inflationary pressure and economic stagnation.  The fed recently decided to keep interest rates steady, while in the UK they are edging up.  At the same time the ‘credit crunch’ is being blamed for a downturn in Britain as retailers and house builders start to report problems:

The credit crunch hit the high street with a vengeance yesterday as shock figures from Marks & Spencer wiped £4 billion off the value of Britain’s leading retailers.

The grim news from Middle Britain’s favourite store marked a new phase in the economic downturn and threatens the high street with its worst slowdown in 20 years. Adding to the gloom, one of the country’s biggest housebuilders revealed that it was teetering on the brink of collapse. Taylor Wimpey’s value more than halved after it failed to secure rescue funding and said it would cut 900 jobs.

As the global economy is faced with more challenges can BC stay unaffected?

On a side note it’s interesting to see how competition from other locales is showing up in our housing market.  I’ve noticed recently that the ‘for sale’ section of craigslist has been listing a number of properties in Arizona, Florida, California & Ontario.

-thanks to JB for the Times story link.

Canada’s inflation rate hit 2.2% in May, jumping from Aprils official rate of 1.7%.  The dramatic increase is blamed mostly on increasing fuel cost:

Statistics Canada said gas prices rose 15 per cent in May from a year earlier, up from a year-on-year pace of 11.6 per cent in April. Excluding gasoline prices, the 12-month growth in the CPI in May was 1.6 per cent, it said.

Meanwhile core inflation, which excludes volatile energy and food prices and which the central bank monitors for underlying price pressures, rose 1.5 per cent in May from the same month last year - the same pace as the 12-month increase in April.

“Lower prices for passenger vehicles dampened the upward pressure on the core index,” the agency said.

Last week, the Bank of Canada surprised markets by not cutting its key interest rate and expressing concern over growing inflationary pressures. The key rate remains at three per cent.

Thursday’s CPI number surpassed the central bank’s two per cent target.

Most economists had expected May’s inflation rates would be around 1.9 per cent.

We could always deal with inflationary concerns the way Argentina does - They’ve managed to maintain a remarkable 0.6% official inflation rate in May thanks to the innovative way they calculate the figure:

According to the new methodology, every time a product’s price rises too sharply, it will simply be removed from the index on the ground that consumers will be deterred by the expense and switch to other goods.

A couple of economic bad news stories posted by Via on this weekends Friday Free-for-all post: The spring selling season so far has us looking at a very different market from previous years. Sales have dropped and inventory has risen dramatically, at the beginning of June we’re looking at close to 18,000 listings for sale in Vancouver. As it becomes harder to sell the number of foreclosures have doubled in the lower mainland:

Kap Hiroti, who tracks Lower Mainland foreclosures at ForeclosureList.ca, says foreclosures stand at 20 per week, up from 10 per week in 2006.

“For one reason or another, they didn’t pay the mortgage, or insurance, or property tax,” says Hiroti, who advises real estate owners looking to foreclose or prospective buyers looking to buy a foreclosed property. “Or they get behind in their strata or condo fees, or face a one-time cost such as a roof or a leaky condo, which might set them back 40, 50 or 60 thousand dollars.”

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Hiroti believes the Lower Mainland real-estate market has “flatlined,” meaning investors who were counting on making a profit no longer see an upside.

As a result, some have chosen to lose their investments through foreclosure rather than hanging on with no sign of a significant upside return.

“They were kind of speculating that the market would go up, but when the market flatlines, some people just choose to get out. Local people are getting priced out of the market.”

At the same time BCs unemployment rate has been creeping up - the jobless rate is now at 4.5% as positions are lost in trade, transportation and agriculture. The unemployment rate is particularly high for young people at 8.8% and for recent immigrants with an unemployment rate of 9.8%.

The bright point in the jobs data remains construction which has been the key driver in the BC jobs market for the last 5 years. The question is: how long can you have a jobs market driven by construction?

From the ’sun predicted to set’ department of todays Province comes this article: BC developer warns of cooling condo market.

B.C.’s development industry must be nimble, disciplined and well-financed to survive the cooling of the provincial market, a veteran developer says.

The Lower Mainland has yet to experience the full impact of the U.S. housing slowdown and the troubles sweeping the Interior’s forest sector, Concert Properties president David Podmore said yesterday.

“I do think you’re going to see a continued slowing of our economy as . . . what’s happening in the Interior and the U.S. spill over,” Podmore told a conference on the future of B.C.’s housing industry.

“You’re going to have to really sharpen your skills to be successful and to compete effectively.”

Podmore said developers should stop relying on pre-sales, which he called a phenomenon of the past eight to 10 years.

The market is heading into a period where projects may take half-a-year to sell out, he said.

Disciplined developers will pull the plug on projects if it becomes clear they can’t succeed, he said.

There will be opportunities for well-financed developers to take over idled projects - but they must be fast on their feet, he said.

The ‘pulling of plugs’ has already started to happen on some projects like the Eden group Elyse.  Those that don’t pull the plug when they can get it pulled for them and go into recievership Sophia, H+H, Gardencity, etc.  There’s good news though, as the US housing slowdown continues it’s forecast that material prices will moderate.

Even after years of falling real estate prices in Miami it’s still cheaper to rent than to buy according to this article in the Wall Street Journal, sent in by bcbuds.  As prices are falling so are rents.

It’s a dilemma for owners, do you try to wait out a recovery and pour money into the condo you’ve got rented out at a loss, or do you stop the bleeding and sell in a down market?  Many are choosing to wait out the market and hoping for a recovery soon.

…But that has created a new, predictable situation. “Rents are falling,” says Miami broker Leslie Cooper. “You and your brother and everyone else is trying to rent your new condo out. So no wonder. But the rents won’t even cover your costs.”

I looked a number of fabulous condos in new developments on Brickell Avenue in downtown Miami. Their prices had been slashed drastically from peak levels. Some are now in forced sales.

You can get a two-bedroom condo in some places for $400,000 or less. And that’s considered a great deal.

Of course the problem is that even these reduced prices aren’t justified by the rental income.  The article goes on to examine the numbers- even if you aren’t renting the money and have the $400k cash interest free to buy one of these condos it’s still a losing proposition in a post-boom era of property depreciation.