Archive for the ‘supply’ Category

The Fall

Wednesday, September 7th, 2011

Well, It’s back to school and back to work time.. unless you can cash in a Vancouver property lotto ticket and retire.

Looks like a lot of people have decided its time to try to cash out, yesterday saw a big listing day, Paulb says 356 new listings with only 103 sales.

Inventory posted numbers by area and a lot of places, including west van, burnaby, Vancouver West and white rock saw a sales to list ratio of 25% or lower.

Is this the start of a slow sales autumn or just a post holiday blip? Is it the right time to try to sell, or should you be buying investment properties in hopes of future gains?

Has inventory peaked?

Thursday, August 11th, 2011

As of yesterday inventory was a few hundred over 16,000. Will we see 17,000 places for sale again this year or has inventory peaked?

The City wants to drive down the price of your condo

Tuesday, July 26th, 2011

Got an investment condo or two? It might be a good time to sell because the City of Vancouver has just unveiled it’s plan to drive down property prices and rents.

In a plan that goes before council today, the city proposes to provide $42 million in land and capital grants over 10 years to create 38,000 new affordable homes, including 7,900 supportive and social-housing units, 11,000 market rental units and 20,000 new condo and “ownership” units by 2021.

Coun. Raymond Louie said in an interview that strategies may include:

• A “rent bank” where tenants facing eviction for not paying their rent can apply for either a loan or a grant, which is then paid directly to the landlord.

• Long-term leases, where the city maintains ownership of the land, which is leased at preferred rates for a defined term but is always owned by the city.

• Units that have fixed limits on the profits that homeowners can make when selling, which would end property speculation; any rise in property value beyond the set limit could be directed to the city for other social-housing projects.

• Limits to the profits that developers can make on the land speculation in projects; special consideration for a project’s approval may be based on the developer making a lower profit.

• Increasing co-op ownership and rentals, where a financial institution or the government makes the initial outlay of cash and is repaid over a long period of time.

The “Running out of Land” Club

Monday, July 4th, 2011

You often hear of high price/rent for SFH in the City of Vancouver being justified because of the scarcity of land. I thought I would do a comparison with the City of San Francisco, which is slightly larger than the CoV and has a population of about 800,000. But the really big difference is that it comprises a little over 1/10 of the metro population compared with 1/4 for the CoV. So you’d expect San Francisco to have a higher scarcity premium. Well no.

Take a look at this listing for the West Portal neighbourhood in San Francisco’s west side for $1,075,000:

http://www.redfin.com/CA/San-Francisco/2531-14th-Ave-94127/home/662192

And here’s the same house for rent for $5200/mo:

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/apa/2471867467.html

The rest of the neighbourhood:

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/search/apa/sfc?query=west+portal&srchType=A&minAsk=&maxAsk=&bedrooms=3

Price/rent for this property would be 207.

What about the comparable numbers for, say, Dunbar? Maybe $1.5 million and $3500/month? That’s a price/rent of 428.

Now you might say yes but property taxes are higher in SF. That’s true so let’s see how much higher.

This property is assessed at $402,019 and has property taxes of $4,836 /year. That’s because of California’s looney property tax system which taxes at the most recent sale price, not market value. If you bought the house for $1,075,000 you’d pay $1,075,000/$402,019 * $4,836 = $12,931/year.

Total property taxes in CoV are 4.21377 mills, so a $1.5 million property would pay $6320/year.

Calculate price/(rent-property tax) and you get 261 in SF versus 504 in Vancouver.

And I didn’t factor in mortgage interest and property tax deductibility and the ability to lock in low rates long term in the US.

You’d pay more for just a lot in Vancouver than the whole house in San Francisco. What sense does that make? In which city is land really more scarce? What do the rents tell you?

This post was submitted by patriotz.

Paul Is Back with the Data

Tuesday, June 21st, 2011

Realtors. Some of you love them, some of you hate them and some of you are them. But there’s one thing that it seems we can all agree on: We appreciate it when a realtor takes the time to share market data with us.

One Realtor that has consistently shared market data with Metro Vancouver residents is Paul Boenisch. Paul has been sharing daily sales and listing numbers with us for a while and is now establishing a market data section on his site along with a new partner.

At the moment their market trends section is in its beginning stages, but Paul has a well established history of reliably providing data and promises to continue posting daily numbers here as well.

For more Metro Vancouver market data you may want to also check out the Realtor sites of Agent Will and Larry. For the bigger picture there’s CUER/Sauder at UBC and for great analysis check out the Economic Analyst. Lauren and Paul will be posting local real estate market data here.

Do you have a favorite source of market data that isn’t listed here? Drop it in the comments below!

UBC Hospice approved despite fear of ghosts

Monday, June 6th, 2011

The UBC hospice has been approved at it’s current location despite neighboring condo owners fear of ghosts driving down property values.

UBC’s board of governors has approved plans for the 15-bed Order of St. John facility, which some Chinese-born residents of a nearby condo tower say will bring bad luck to the community.

“I want to know where does humanity go for residents living in this building, when 80 per cent of them highly oppose the site — not oppose this idea, just oppose this site?” condo owner Jane Ni asked reporters at a press conference Friday.

She denied claims that neighbours’ opposition is based on superstition about ghosts.

“This is 5,000 years of culture and religion. We are not superstitious,” Ni said.

Some Chinese community leaders are offering their support to the hospice’s opponents, arguing that their concerns aren’t being taken seriously.

“You must consider whether proceeding under these circumstances is the best, or is there an alternative that can further lessen the negative human impact?” said David Choi, chairman of the National Congress of Chinese Canadians.

The university says that it understands the residents’ worries, but that the site is ideal for a hospice.

“A hospice is not to be put away in an institutional setting; it is meant to be in a community, because it’s very much a part of the life and death of a community. When people are at their end of lives, they should be close to their families,” said Stephen Owen, vice-president at UBC.

The school is planning to put up trees around the hospice as a screen and help neighbours who wish to move to new units on campus.

The full article is available at CTV. There are a few remarkable things about this story.

First, that two of the three people quoted appear to be realtors, yet the article doesn’t mention that fact.

Second, that they’ve decided to place the justification for this particular bit of nimbyism in purely racist terms.

Third, that if you’re looking to buy a condo at UBC the owners at Promontory have just said that their units are now worth a lot less than they used to be.

And regarding the David Choi comment “is there an alternative that can further lessen the negative human impact?”. This is an interesting question because the whole purpose of a hospice is to lessen the negative human impact when people are at their weakest. Perhaps a more important question is what values do we want to hold as a society? Which do we value more: human life and caring for the elderly and sick or property values?

I’m afraid that we already know the answer to that question for at least some people.

Net International Migration Negative

Thursday, April 28th, 2011

Long-time reader/commenter painted turtle found this interesting tidbit on BC migration via greaterfool blog: By the Numbers: Quarterly International Migration

While  the  net  loss  of  727  people  from  BC  to  other  countries  in  Q4  2010  is,  in  and  of itself, a small number (see Figure 1), it is significant both in terms of its direction—being the  first  time  that  BC’s quarterly  net  international  migration  has  been  negative  in Statistics Canada’s database, which dates back to 1972 and in its magnitude of change from previous quarters. While a seasonal pattern is evident in BC’s quarterly migration data, the decline in Q4 net international migration was much more pronounced in 2010 than in previous years, falling from a net inflow of 16,371 international migrants in Q3 2010 (the second‐highest on record in the past 38 years, after only Q3 2008), to a net outflow of 727 international migrants in Q4 2010.

Why the significant shift from historical trends? As it turns out, the answer lies not in a significant change in immigration or emigration levels, but in changes in the number of non‐permanent  residents  living  in  both  Canada  and  in  BC.  For  the  most  part,  non- permanent  residents  are  people  residing  in  Canada  who  hold  a  work  or  study  permit, and  their  dependants,  as  well  as  those  holding  Minister’s  permits  or  claiming  refugee status.
The paper argues that the numbers do not indicate a significant drop in international permanent migration levels — by all accounts Canada is accepting immigrants at a decent clip — but there was nonetheless a sudden shift away from non-permanent residents remaining in Canada past the end of 2010.
The significant outflow of non‐permanent residents nationally was also reflected in most provinces.  Alberta  saw  the  number  of  non‐permanent  residents  decline  by 6,725, Saskatchewan by 414, Manitoba by 406, Ontario by 12,603, and Quebec by 5,900. The most  notable  changes  were,  however,  in  the  west.  In  only  two  provinces  (BC  and Alberta)  was  immigration  not  significant  enough  to  balance  the  outflow  of  non‐ permanent  residents,  thus  resulting  in  declines  in  total  net  international  migration  of 727 in BC and 2,092 in Alberta
I don’t think there is much to read into this report yet — it is only one quarter — but for Q1 2011 and potentially beyond there will be that many more dwellings looking for inhabitants, and perhaps this indicates a push by the government to get permanent residents, who are in sum suffering from elevated unemployment levels, back to work.

Olympic Village buyers sue Vancouver City

Wednesday, March 16th, 2011

There are now 62 buyers at the Vancouver Olympic village who are suing the city of Vancouver for what they claim is poor design and construction. This could be exactly why the City set up a shell corporation with no assets to sell these units after the developer went bankrupt. Remember that lawyers warning in the news a while back?

From the CBC:

A total of 62 owners involved in the lawsuit said their condos at the development — renamed The Village on False Creek — have a variety of complaints, including a lack of heat for four months. Others claim they can’t fit standard sized beds into their bedrooms or have leaky windows and ceilings.

And from CTV:

..He says that instead of the “extraordinary levels of luxury” promised in marketing for the Village, the owners discovered their suites aren’t much better than rental apartments.

In some cases, doors will slam into each other if they’re opened at the same time. In others, residents aren’t able to open their closet doors if anything larger than a double bed is placed in the master bedroom.

“Not being able to fit a queen-sized bed in a master bedroom is a major design flaw,” McMillan said.

Other residents have had problems with persistent leaky ceilings and faulty heating. A video released by the owners shows water dripping from light fixtures and smoke alarms.

“One guy’s had his entire ceiling ripped out because they can’t figure out why his heating system doesn’t work,” McMillan said.

Not much better than rental suites eh? Yeah I guess not. I made sure I could fit a king size bed in my master bedroom, and if my light fixtures started leaking or my heating system didn’t work I’d just up and move. It’s a good thing these people bought, since you can’t lose investing in real estate!

This post was submitted by rancid.

Vancouver and the Supply Side Argument

Tuesday, March 8th, 2011

Much has been made of the availability of credit promoting asset price bubbles. If the availability of credit is loose and an asset is seen as scarce, asset prices tend to rise. But what if there was an ability to quickly supply new product onto the market, such that an asset cannot be seen as scarce for long periods? This is the argument of Demographia and their annual house price survey. This survey is famous for marking Vancouver as one of the most unaffordable metropolitan markets in the English speaking world. The authors of the survey argue that while loose credit conditions lead to bubbles, the inability for a market to quickly react to changes in investor and owner demand can exacerbate bubbles:

Higher land prices have been the principal contributor to rapidly increasing housing prices in unaffordable markets. These land prices include the cost increasing  influence of land supply restrictions (such as urban growth boundaries), excessive infrastructure fees and other overly strict land use regulations. In Australia, 95 percent of the increase in inflation adjusted new house (and land) costs were attributable to land, rather than construction from 1993 to 2006. In more restrictively regulated San Diego, house prices were 250 percent higher than in Dallas-Fort Worth in 2007, yet cost only 15 percent more to build.

It may be easy to quickly discount this report’s arguments as, of course, asset bubbles are not prone to form without the propagation of relaxed lending. Remove the loose lending, remove the bubbles. But I would argue it’s worth a deeper and critical look into what the authors are stating. Unconventional Economist A.K.A. Leith Van Olsen has written dozens of posts on a similar theme, that cities that experienced or are experiencing severe asset bubbles also have severe land use restrictions.

The posts are long and the comments are equally as interesting as the posts themselves. An important point in the debate is that Van Olsen and others are arguing about supply responsiveness, not total supply. Indeed we know that supply must at least equal demand, or rents would be increasing significantly. Van Olsen clarifies:

Readers should note that unresponsive housing supply is a different issue to the ‘undersupply’ of homes or ‘housing shortages’ commonly mentioned by mainstream commentators. The former relates to the speed and cost at which new (generally fringe) housing supply is built, whereas the latter refers to the physical quantity of homes available for the population.

In my view, Australia does not have a housing shortage. But housing supply is certainly unresponsive and overly expensive on the urban fringe of Australia’s cities and towns. As a result, the critical ‘inflation vent’ provided by cheap fringe housing in places like Texas and Atlanta (despite very high population growth) is missing from the Australian housing market. As such, there is no supply mechanism available to quickly dampen house price inflation before it turns into a speculative bubble (and later bust).

So, he argues, there is opportunity to maintain price stability by decreasing response time of new and desirable supply becoming available on the market. Faster response times can be accomplished by: reducing permit and planning application times, removing centrally planned blanket zoning restrictions (such as agricultural reserves), and providing more local authority and accountability on land use. Interestingly this approach has been used in bubble-averse Switzerland and Germany, as investigated in Bigger, Better, Faster, More: Why some countries plan better than others by Alan W. Evans & Dr Oliver Marc Hartwich, who, when comparing the plights of the British Isles and Australian housing markets to their European continental brethren, state:

In Ireland and Australia,with planning systems derived from the UK’s, restrictions on the supply of land, densification policies and central planning fail to provide the kind of homes people want, and lead to high real house price inflation. Successful planning systems, as found in Germany and Switzerland, leave planning decisions to local planners and politicians while ensuring that they face the full costs and benefits of their decisions.

Applications to Vancouver

There is some argument that the Vancouver area faces multiple Byzantine tiers of land use policies and restrictions, from the Agricultural Land Reserve, shared utility and resource planning at district and provincial levels, and municipal-level zoning change and permit application processes. While all serve a purpose, from time to time it may be instructive to take a step back and look at the successes and failures in other jurisdictions in avoiding destructive asset price bubbles.

A rational debate around the role of land use planning has been notably absent from BC’s mainstream media. It is unlikely any of us would live to see a significant overhaul of land use policies in the city and province, but studying land use policies and other supply side impedances (such as flexibility of labour markets) in other jurisdictions — and their purported catalytic effects on asset bubbles — does serve to provide some context to Vancouver’s prospects in the coming generations.

OV Buyers sued for wanting out

Tuesday, February 22nd, 2011

What weird times we live in.. As people lined up to buy Olympic Village suites at firesale prices others are being sued for not wanting to complete their pre-sales agreements. A few years ago the lawsuits against pre-sale buyers went not only for their deposits, but for the difference in sales price of the unit as well. Fortunately for OV presales buyers they only seem to be going after the deposits, which are generally less than $100k.

In one of the lawsuits just filed, Port Coquitlam resident Cordelia Lins and her husband had put down $50,090 in May of 2008 for a unit they originally agreed to buy for $500,900. Problems with records make it difficult to determine the assessed value. Ms. Lin said she couldn’t say anything about the lawsuit because she was “in negotiations.”
Vancouver resident Gee Lim, who paid the largest deposit for a unit he originally agreed to buy for $1.4-million, did not answer his phone. He originally agreed to buy his unit in April 2008. Last July, the province’s land-assessment authority valued that unit at only $1.172-million.
The third buyer, who also put down his deposit in April 2008, has no phone listing at the Richmond address provided in the suit. Tian Qi had agreed to pay $516,000 for his unit in the Kayak building that is now being marketed. It was assessed at $504,000 by B.C. Assessment Authority last July.

Please note these are different cases than the six buyers who sued over building deficiencies, most of those cases have been settled. Read the full article over at the Globe and Mail