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What’s happened to condo prices?

With all the media focus on rising real estate prices in Vancouver you’d think all market segments must be doing pretty well right?

Well it sure looks like condo prices have been languishing.  First we had the CIBC world markets report showing Vancouver condo prices barely budging in the last five years, and now Ulsterman points out the following:

It’s easy to only see the big gains SFH’s have made over the past 5 years and overlook the many “homeowners” of condos who have not made much or even lost money (what!?!, but i was told it only goes…).

I noticed 303-1333 W 7th Ave (V1088944) listed in the Georgia Straight p72 of Nov 20-27 issue). It’s a 1bd/1bath unit listed for $355,000. The key detail was of course, “Amazing deal, listed $20,000 below where it sold in 2009.”

So after paying $70k in interest, $15k’ish in taxes and strata fees, $20k capital loss, CMHC fee when buying (10k) (3%?), $13k selling fees. This gets expensive really fast ($128,000 over 5 years or $2133/month). It probably rents for $1300/month.

Not such a slam dunk.

Are condos just hitting a price ceiling at the entry level? Shouldn’t condo prices be going up more in this market?

Joe Mainlander points out that the REBGV HPI paints a similar picture.

Even the REBGV HPI stats point to a sinking condo market (not 20% though);

Metro Van Apartment HPI;

July 2008 = $367k
July 2014 = $380k

There’s been 10% inflation since then, so HPI would need to be $403k just to keep up.

A 6% drop in real dollars.

FFFA! Bubble, Oil, Toil

You made it to the weekend!

And that means its time for another Friday Free-for-all! This is our regular end of the week news round up and open topic discussion thread for the weekend.

Here are a few recent links to kick off the chat:

End of the boom?
A look at bankruptcy and foreclosure
Alberta anxious over dropping oil
HAM or BCM?
Prices wont go up or fall

So what are you seeing out there? Post your news links, thoughts and anecdotes here and have an excellent weekend!

FFFA! Income, Losses, Investment

Its the end of another beautiful week and a long weekend to boot!

And that means it’s time for our regular Friday Free-for-all post, this is our end of the week news round up and open topic discussion thread for the weekend.

Here’s a few recent links to kick off the chat!

19.8% Avg loss at Olympic Village 2011-2014
Retirement savings at risk?
Oliver sees no bubble
CMHC brings risk to taxpayers
BC buyers seek investments
Canadian RE among most overvalued
$1000 house

So what are you seeing out there? Post your news links, thoughts and anecdotes here and have an excellent weekend!

Taxpayers funding condo flippers?

By now everyone knows about the high cost of the Olympic Village project.

Current estimates are that it will cost taxpayers between $400 – $600 million to pay this off.

There are 68 units still left unsold over the last six years, but over at the ‘Canada House’ building it looks like a number of units have been bought and flipped, at least one for more than $400k profit in a month.

Hat tip to Mac who pointed out this article in the Province.

So whats going on here? Should these units have been priced higher or considering the tough sales across this project were they right to unload them quickly even if there were buyers willing to pay more?

FFFA! Rate, Drop, Evaluate, Condos

It’s that time of the week again!

Time for another Friday Free-for-all.

This is our regular end of the week news roundup and open topic discussion thread for the weekend.

Here are a few recent links to kick off the chat:

Poloz: long term rates headed up
Evaluate my condo deal
Condo Market Report
Vancouver housing drop song
10 reasons the gold bugs lost their shirts

So what are you seeing out there? Post your news links, thoughts and anecdotes here and have an excellent weekend!