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Friday Free-for-all! Sept. 2nd 2016

It’s the end of another work week and that means it’s time for another Friday free-for-all here on VCI.

This is our regular end of the week news round up and open topic discussion thread for the weekend, here are a few recent links to kick off the chat:

Some recent stats
Rentals, the other disaster
For rent, van with no toilet
Scotiabank: Buyer tax the right move
Mansion prices drop
Prices to dip 10%
Thousands of job losses
What 3 mill gets you in Scottsdale
Vancouver & Toronto go in different directions

So what are you seeing out there? Post your news links, thoughts and anecdotes here and have an excellent weekend!

Friday Free-for-all! June 3rd 2016

Yep, it’s another one.

As we wind down the work week and head into another weekend it’s time for another Friday Free-for-all!

This is our regular end of the week news round up and open topic discussion thread.

Here are a few recent links to kick off the chat:

Drastic measures to slow market?
Taxpayers send realtors on trip?
Dirt earns more than all workers
Houses hit all time high
Bubble Timeline
Replace income tax with property tax
Scotiabank concern over Vancouver & Toronto

So what are you seeing out there? Going to any open houses this weekend?  Post your news links, thoughts and anecdotes here and have an excellent weekend!

Friday Free-for-all! May 26th 2016

It’s the end of another work week and you know what that means…

It’s Friday free-for-all time here at VCI. This is our regular end of the week news round up and open topic discussion thread for the weekend. Here are a few recent links to kick off the chat:

Housing market concerns at BOC
Broker Economist on concerns
Vancouver ‘freakshow’ market
Peterborough up 24% YOY
Save for 23 years
4 out of 10 caught short on money
lack of compliance on money laundering
high cost of ultra-low rates

So what are you seeing out there? Post your news links, thoughts and anecdotes here and have an excellent weekend!

Can someone please explain this market?

The following was posted by ‘Whistler or bust?‘ in the comments this weekend:

I will be the first to admit I have been very wrong about the direction of Van RE in the past 2-3 years. That disclaimer said, lets examine some facts to see if there is any upside left:

These are the incomes required to be in each % (Source CBC)

10% of income earners $80,400*
1% of income earners $191,100*
0.1% of income earners $685,000**
0.01% of income earners $2.57 million*

So with the average Vancouver detached home at $1,408,722 (Source Yatter Matters)

A DP of $281,744 is required to buy
PPT is $26,174
Misc Closing $2,000
Total $309,918

Mortgage $1,126,978 @ 2.59 for 5 yrs = $66,072 Annually ( I will note these are record low rates)
Assume 1% Annual Maintenance (This is a standard benchmark over many years) $14,080
Property Taxes – These can vary but lets assume $7,000?

So Annual carrying costs total $87,152 AFTER TAX – I am excluding heating and hydro which vary but in no cases less than $3,000 annually for a detached home

Back to our chart above – Lets assume a 30% avg tax rate for the 10%, 35% for the 1% and 45% for the 0.1 and 0.01%.
After Tax
10% of income earners $56,200* – This house would take up 155% of the after-tax income
1% of income earners $124,215* – This house would take up 70% of after-tax income
0.1% of income earners $376,750* – This house would take up 23% of after tax income
0.01% of income earners $1.413 mil – This house would take up 6% of after- tax income

This is assuming all of these people have $310K for closing. This is assuming they are buying the average house of $1.4 mil. I think we all know what kind of house $1.4 mil gets on the West Side and even on the East side nowadays.

So the conclusion – Even the 1%ers are realistically priced out of the average Van detached home. Only the 0.1% and and above can really afford to buy.

Put another way – 99% of people are priced out. As families combined lets assume 95% are priced out.

So to all you bulls out there, please answer the questions: Is this a healthy market? Is this a market with any upside left?

I think we all know the answer.

Friday Freeee-for-all!

Guess it’s October huh?

And seeing as how it’s the end of another work week, why don’t we do our regular end of the week news round up and open topic discussion thread for the weekend?

It’s Friday Free-for-all time!

Here are a few recent links to kick off the chat:

All aboard the debt train!
The perfect balanced market
For sale: Bentall Centre
No one wants to cool the market
Shaughnessy protected
Hard times
Jenny Kwan misquoted
Canadian foreign buyers
World economy on its head?
The risks of interest rates

So what are you seeing out there? Post your news links, thoughts and anecdotes here and have an excellent weekend!