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Vancouver no longer on planet earth?

The Condo King has emerged from hibernation and seen no shadow: that means two more years of bubble.

“We no longer live in Vancouver. We live on the planet.”

With that remark, renowned Vancouver realtor Bob Rennie attempted to explain the evolution of this city’s exasperating housing market.

He made the comment last week to a conference of the Urban Land Institute, an organization representing realtors and developers who intimately understand what the condo guru was referring to.

Full article in the Vancouver Sun.

How much lost on a 2009 condo purchase?

Previously we highlighted b5baxters comment on the 19 months that have elapsed since Vancouver home prices have peaked (according to the REBGV home price index)

Of course there are a lot of variables in the housing market, so lets look just at condos, which Crabman has ever so helpfully run the numbers on:

I calculated the bottom line if someone bought a benchmark condo 4 years ago with a 10% DP and a 4% 30-yr mortgage. I took into account all carrying costs, rent savings and principal pay down. I also assumed rent, prop tax and condo fees increased 4%/year.

Oct 2009:
Benchmark price: $380,975
Mortgage balance: $342,878
Equity: $38,098 (10%)
Est. Rent: $1,100
Mortgage: $1,637
Condo Fees: $200
Prop tax: $89
Monthly loss: $826 (extra costs of owning vs. renting)

Oct 2013:
Benchmark price: $365,600
Mortgage balance: $317,253
Equity: $48,347 (13.2%)
Est. Rent: $1,287
Mortgage: $1,637
Condo Fees: $234
Prop tax: $104
Monthly loss: $688

Over those 4 years, equity only increased $10,249. But the extra monthly costs of ownership over that same period were $45,498, so the owner would have saved $35,249 by renting.

So it looks like the current ‘ownership premium’ for someone who bought a Vancouver condo in 2009 is just over $35k.  Anybody see any problems with those numbers?

Friday free-for-all!

It’s that time of the week again… Time for our end of the week new round up and open topic discussion thread!  Here are a few recent links to kick off the chat:

Canadians carry stupid debt levels
Canada better off than USA?
Average price to jump this month?
Chinas glut of unsold goods
-(lazy editor, More links to follow)

So what are you seeing out there? Post your news links, thoughts and anecdotes here and have an excellent weekend!

Friday Free-for-all!

It’s a fine Friday for another fabulous free-for-all post, so let do our regular end of the week news round-up and open topic discussion thread!  Here are a few recent links to kick off the chat:

Central one hopes for slip, not plunge
Jurock: sales and avg price way down
Harper wants to destroy RE market?
Economists forecast 5-10% price drop
Hoping for years of stagnation?
Scotiabank: correction in TO & VAN
Realtors: Calgary will avoid downturn
Richmond Realtor warns of decline
Carney: Rates can go up
Canadas trade gap widens

So what are you seeing out there?  Post your news links, thoughts and anecdotes here and have an excellent weekend!